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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 03:06 PM
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Freep-holes react to Colin Powell calling Murtha attacks "disgraceful"
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Colin Powell: White House's Murtha Attack 'Disgraceful'
NewsMax.com ^ | Nov. 25, 2005 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 11/25/2005 9:58:25 AM PST by Carl/NewsMax

An angry former Secretary of State Colin Powell is blasting the Bush White House for attacking Rep. Jack Murtha, who undermined troop morale and encouraged al Qaida last week with his call for an immediate U.S. pullout from Iraq. "To attack him the way he was attacked, accusing him of being a Michael Moore, was disgraceful and was not worthy," a Powell told the New York Post's Deborah Orin, who described him as "livid."

"Jack Murtha is great friend of mine," Powell declared. "He's a great patriot."

"I don't agree with his position," the former top Bush diplomat said. "But he has started a debate which is a good debate to have as to how long we should be there." Hours after Murtha called for an immediate pullout last Thursday, White House press secretary Scott McClellan compared him to Michael Moore. Two days later, however, both President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney went out of their way to describe Murtha as "honorable."

Still, Powell focused instead on the earlier remark, and said nothing about the olive branch offered by Bush and Cheney. The one-time chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff also suggested that the war on terror wasn't quite as serious as other challenges the U.S. has faced. "We're not facing a world war anymore," Powell told the Post. "We have pretty much convinced the world that democracy is a better system than communism or fascism or totalitarianism."



...Freeper responses...

1). To: Carl/NewsMax

Shame on the White House for defending themselves

2 posted on 11/25/2005 9:59:12 AM PST by Rosemont

2). To: Carl/NewsMax

Is Powell getting senile? Does he drink?

3 posted on 11/25/2005 9:59:44 AM PST by TheGeezer

3). To: Carl/NewsMax

I'm tired of Powell. What has he contributed the last 10 years? Just worried about his "legacy" in the Washington press circles.

6 posted on 11/25/2005 10:01:09 AM PST by neodad (Rule Number 1: Be Armed)

4). To: Carl/NewsMax

Having Powell gone from power is a good thing. He was just another career suckup.

7 posted on 11/25/2005 10:01:09 AM PST by glorgau

5). To: Carl/NewsMax

Murtha, like Powell, are men who have done great things, but also fell victim to their emotional side.

8 posted on 11/25/2005 10:01:48 AM PST by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)

6). To: Carl/NewsMax

"we are not facing a world war anymore", oh really General? I guess since a world wide war on terror the armies don't wear uniforms then it's not a battle. hmm...I do hope if we get hit again and lost 10 times the 3,000 we lost on 911 or more. He will still remain all nicey nicey with our enemies.

10 posted on 11/25/2005 10:02:11 AM PST by lexington minuteman 1775

7). To: Carl/NewsMax

The republican party continues to pay for having Colin Powell in their ranks.

12 posted on 11/25/2005 10:02:46 AM PST by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU (Democrats unglued), I trust this post will make you sick.)

8). To: Carl/NewsMax

It's now official if there was any doubters. Powell was not only a turn coat but probably from day one serving as JCS under GHB admin way back when was not a real republican nor champion of the conservative movement. He simply served at the pleasure of the two administrations. And one is going to eventually if not already of the opinion, find Condi is cut from the same fabric. Public relation marketing can do wonders can't it.

13 posted on 11/25/2005 10:03:08 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)

9). To: Carl/NewsMax

Ahhhh...the real Colin Powell has finally stood up. He might as well make it official and join the Democrat party.

16 posted on 11/25/2005 10:03:30 AM PST by DakotaGator

10). To: Carl/NewsMax

Thanks for your comments, Colin Blow...now crawl back to your hole.

30 posted on 11/25/2005 10:09:45 AM PST by WKUHilltopper
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 03:09 PM
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1. Waiting for thinly veiled racism
You know the freeps will sink to it soon
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 03:10 PM
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3. It's already in that thread...
...but there's no way I was going to post any of it here. Rest assured, the veil is thin to the point of being non-existent.
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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 03:24 PM
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7. Unfortunately we see the same thing on this board when Rice or Clarence
Thomas are discussed.

Except it is not thinly veiled at all.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 03:43 PM
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8. The reference to Condi
Edited on Fri Nov-25-05 03:45 PM by wryter2000
I read the suggestion that Rice is probably no better as racist. She hasn't done anything but exactly what a freep would applaud in someone else. She's lumped in there with Powell simply because of the color of her skin, imho.

And one is going to eventually if not already of the opinion, find Condi is cut from the same fabric. Public relation marketing can do wonders can't it. Replace "Public relation (sic) marketing" with "affirmative action."
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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 03:10 PM
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2. I wonder why someone like Powell doesn't switch parties and run as a dem
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Einstein99 Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 03:48 PM
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11. If Powell had declared himself a Democrat
instead of a Republican when he left the military, he probably would have been Al Gore's running mate in 2000, vice president right now, and in line for the presidency--and we sure as hell wouldn't be in Iraq right now.
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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 04:21 PM
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13. He's had the same opportunity to run as a repug as Pres or VP
He just didn't want it.
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Einstein99 Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 06:34 PM
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19. Was he ever offered the V.P. slot?
I don't think he was; Cheney would have seen to that. He wouldn't run for President, but I think if he had been a declared Dem and Gore had asked him to "serve his country," he would have accepted. I'm not saying that this would have been a good idea necessarily. I'm just saying it would have been more likely, IMHO.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 07:35 AM
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21. IIRC
Powell was saught after the Gulf War by both parties. Wasn't he JoinT cheifs of Staff during the begining of the Clinton Admin? He had a falling out with the Clinton administration...

I know the pukes tried very hard to recruit him to run in '96.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 03:10 PM
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4. Powell, A Turncoat?
Sure about that?
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 03:14 PM
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5. Pretty rabid...
The way they throw each other under the bus I'm surprised that they don't have a higher regard for the French.
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 03:21 PM
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6. implying what ?
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Einstein99 Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 03:47 PM
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10. "Republicans eat their young,"
said Trent Lott.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 03:44 PM
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9. Comparing Murtha to Michael Moore IS disgraceful:
sure, Murtha has now come out against the war; but he hasn't done nearly the great service that Michael Moore has.
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 04:15 PM
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12. Wouldn't it be fun to post a complaint about a ficticous veteran relative
And describe how you dressed him down as an American traitor and coward because he dared to critisize the war and the admin?

Go on and on how he doesn't deserve to breath the same air as brave men like Buxh and Cheney.......Tell them you said: "just because he got a bunch of medals and got hurt over there doesn't give him the right to judge White House policy".

They might be quite torn over patting you on the back or calling you an idiot.

I guess the only good war hero is a loyal republican war hero.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 05:46 PM
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14. People who have been to war are too "emotional" to run the country.
This is what I get from all of this. They think that anyone who has seen combat does not have the guts to send troops into battle because of their emotions. Because they have seen the horrors of war they lack the intestinal fortitude to send troops to war and so we can never win one. Therefore it's good to have leaders who have never been there because they are emotionally detached.

Warped logic but I think this is what they are saying.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 05:55 PM
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15. Powell sold his soul to the devil with his UN speech taking us into Iraq.
He has zero credibility on any matter. Zero.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 06:25 PM
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16. Some of these dickheads are hard to beleive.
To: Carl/NewsMax

Mutha is at best a "useful idiot," more likely a traitor.

5 posted on 11/25/2005 10:01:05 AM PST by anton
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 06:31 PM
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17. "Useful Idiot" -- they're parroting...
I just saw this on Media Matters:

(Buttboil) LIMBAUGH: Not really that interested in Murtha, ladies and gentlemen, to tell you the truth. I know he got everybody's dander up all last week, but I think he's just the useful idiot of the moment.

(Which goes to show you who the real "useful idiots" are.)
http://mediamatters.org/items/200511220011
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 06:32 PM
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18. Unlike Limbaugh, the useless idiot......................
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drluch Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 06:39 PM
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20. We lure Powell to our side as VP, regardless of his
UN mess, he pumps up the minority vote and gets some crossover votes from Repubs who think the Democrats finally have gotten tougher on terrorism, a stand we need to enunciate more clearly.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 07:36 AM
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22. No no no no ...
We don't need Powell as VP -- NO way.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 08:55 AM
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23. He had his chance and he blew it.
By drinking the BushCo kool-aid.

He's irrelevant.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 08:59 AM
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24. since when was that shithead Powell "tough on terrorism?"
he's a weakling, a failure, a hasbeen, a fool, a liar, and a completely discredited douchebag.

which was "our" side, again?
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 05:06 PM
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25. "pump up the minority vote"? LOL
How gullible you think us black folk are, eh?
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