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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 12:31 PM
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Peter Goss said the torture we did was "unique" & really not torture

http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/story.jsp?idq=/ff/story/0002%2F20051121%2F0041894930.htm&photoid=20051028WHRE106&ewp=ewp_news_1105cia_torture

CIA "unique" methods not torture: director

- CIA interrogators use "unique" methods to obtain "vital" information from prisoners, but strictly obey laws against torture, CIA Director Porter Goss said in an interview published on Monday.

"This agency does not do torture. Torture does not work," Goss said in an interview with USA Today.

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"An enemy that's working in an amorphous network that doesn't have to worry about a bunch of regulations, chain of command, rule of law or anything else has got a huge advantage over a stultified, slow-moving, bureaucratic, by-the-book organization," Goss said.

"So we have to, within the law and within all the requirements of our professional ethics in this profession, develop agility. And that means putting a lot of judgment in the hands of individuals overseas."
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oh Porter, Porter, Porter you can speak all the garble you want, it won't change torture into unique techniques.

and if you get such "vital" information from this unique technique why is your occupation going so badly?

you lying creep
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 12:34 PM
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1. It was that boutique type torture. Not the Home Depot kind.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 12:40 PM
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2. maybe so but are electric drills boutique or H.D.?

recent articles talk of torture with electric drills. killing a number of the prisoners.

does the CIA actually think the world will buy the "unique" crap.

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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 05:42 PM
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11. It's boutique torture the first time. After that it is regular old torture
Wait. I thought We DIDN'T TORTURE!!!
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 12:42 PM
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3. "This agency does not do torture. Torture does not work,"
Well, he's half right.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 12:51 PM
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5. Hmmmm. Peter Goss is an idiot

This man was tortured to death.

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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 12:43 PM
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4. This the equivalent of saying
oral sex is not sex.
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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 12:58 PM
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6. "Interview with Extreme Prejudice"
...sounds pretty unique to me.
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liam_laddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 01:11 PM
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7. The name's actually Porter Goss
Porter, Peter...still just a shill for the worst administration in history.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 01:23 PM
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8. OK, Porter. Sit in this chair. Put the straps on him, boys. Now these
little electrodes won't hurt a bit, Porter, unless you lie!

Boys, where's the power drill?
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 01:46 PM
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9. here's the electric drill torture article

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article328214.ece

British-trained police in Iraq 'killed prisoners with drills'

British-trained police operating in Basra have tortured at least two civilians to death with electric drills, The Independent on Sunday can reveal.

John Reid, the Secretary of State for Defence, admits that he knows of "alleged deaths in custody" and other "serious prisoner abuse" at al-Jamiyat police station, which was reopened by Britain after the war.

Militia-dominated police, who were recruited by Britain, are believed to have tortured at least two men to death in the station. Their bodies were later found with drill holes to their arms, legs and skulls.

The victims were suspected of collaborating with coalition forces, according to intelligence reports. Despite being pressed "very hard" by Britain, however, the Iraqi authorities in Basra are failing to even investigate incidents of torture and murder by police, ministers admit.
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 01:49 PM
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10. So, "agility" = be more like those who ignore the rule of law? nt
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