Why are you or aren't you ABB? (Anybody But Bush)

[UrbScotty]

I am for many reasons:

Iraq
Protecting America
The economy
Jobs
Labor issues
Health care
Civil rights/liberties
The environment
Education
Fiscal responsibility

...and many more.

Why are you?

Or, why not?

[travisleit01]

1. I am ABB because...

if he is reSelected, I don't know if we'll have a country in another 4 years. At least not one that resembles anything close to the "America" we once knew.

[Virgil]

2. Why vote for the war criminal I want impeached..

And not just impeached, but removed from office and put on trial. That and he is the worst president ever.

[rucky]

3. Worst...President...Ever

[lcordero]

4. I'm not for the same reasons that you are

I refuse to reward an enabler for their complete and utter lack of courage.

[library_max]

10. It's a vote, not a rolled-up newspaper.

It's not a matter of rewards and punishments, it's a matter of who's going to be president - Bush or the Democratic nominee. Who could we possibly nominate that wouldn't be a 1000% improvement on Bush?

[lcordero]

13. rolled-up newspaper? HA!!! think nightstick instead bud

[library_max]

29. Unless you're a Supreme Court Justice,

your vote is highly unlikely to decide the outcome of the election. So "rolled-up newspaper" was actually flattering your importance rather than diminishing it.

[AntiCoup2K4]

18. Someone with ties to the same exact criminals that Bush is.

And if you don't know who that is by now, then I guess you'll never know. I'm sick of having posts deleted from people who can't face reality about the DLC's golden botox boy (and no, that's not a nickname, it's an adjective!)

[lcordero]

22. AMEN!!!!!!!!!

[indigo32]

5. I am ABB

because:
1. of the harm Bush is doing here and world wide. The ENTIRE WORLD is waiting with baited breath for us to Ax the Chimp.

2. Supreme Court Justices, (and lower courts too).

3. Because for all the repetition of "theres no difference", there most certianly is...

4. Because for all the repetition of "status quo", we aren't gonna have any revolution through this presidential election. Sorry, we just aren't. Not DK, not HD, not any of them.

[IndianaGreen]

6. ABB is a codeword for maintaining the status quo

In the 2004 campaign, these left-talking politicians will once again seek to put off the critical question of establishing the political independence of the working class from both big business parties. They will seek to divert the mass opposition to Bush behind whichever candidate emerges from the Democratic nomination contest. They all subscribe to the position of “anyone but Bush,” as though Bush were the only weapon of American capitalism, rather than one of many instruments of the ruling elite.

All such “lesser evil” politics are truly a dead end for the working class. There is no shortcut in the struggle against imperialist war and social reaction.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/jan2004/stat-j27.shtml

[indigo32]

8. just curious

I agree in principle... but what kind of change are we going to really affect by NOT voting ABB?

[leyton]

7. I am to a point.

I am not truly "Anyone but Bush" because there are several of the Democrats who I do not think could handle the duties of President. However, I would vote for anyone of the four who actually have a shot at the nomination, so in effect, I'm ABB. Why? Because Bush is a horrible president who is running up the debt and spending the money of future generations for a little political gain, starting wars off of faulty intelligence for a little political gain, giving favors to corporations for no political gain.

Also, it's telling that after running for Congress, running for Governor, being Governor for six years, spending a year (two?) campaigning for President, and being President for three years, the guy still cannot pronounce "nuclear." If he couldn't pronounce "colonel" or "balaclava" I would understand, since they're not spelled phonetically. But "nuclear" is, so that casts his third-grade report card in doubt (not that it was that great to begin with).

Actually, I think he does it to look "regular" (or perhaps "reglar" or "regluar") but now I'm just ranting.

[Hippo_Tron]

14. I'm gonna assume by some democrats, you mean Sharpton...

So I'll just ask you a question, do you really think that the country would be better off with Bush in the white house than Al Sharpton? But besides that I'm glad to see that you're ABB for the top four.

[EstimatedProphet]

9. Isn't it obvious?

Actually, maybe it isn't. I'm still very amazed ANYONE supports him, much less near 50% of the public.
So...We aur the USA. We are the good guys. WE DON'T BEAT UP ON LITTLE COUNTRIES OUT OF RACISM.
Unless, of course, we have * as president.

[rumguy]

11. two words: red ink

[Wwagsthedog]

12. War, war, war, all the time war

Afghanistan war
Terror war
Iraq war
Drug war
___________ war (fill in the blank)

Of course I'm ABB even though some of the choices aren't that good. My feeling is that most of them would continue to wage all the wars the village idiot has carried on but maybe the nominee won't start any new wars.

[Hippo_Tron]

15. ABB For All 7 left...

6 out of those 7 because I honestly believe that they have progressive agendas and while none of them are perfect they would all still make fine presidents, and do a much better job than Bush. Joe Lieberman, well I think he'd CLEARLY be the lesser of the two evils.

[mike1963]

16. I am because the very few in the world who might be worse

aren't running.

[IowaBiker]

17. Democracy is at stake.

I'm seriously afraid that should Bush rwin the election that the right will succeed in eliminating democracy in America.

One or two more Supreme court justices to the right and decisions like the 2000 election will become commonplace. The Patriot Act will be a fond memory compared to what he has in store for us.

Consider, Bush was Governor during the Tulia round up and incarceration and awarded the investigator that put these innocent people away the Texas "Lawman of the Year" award. As President he did nothing to release those innocent people. He supports the Supreme Court decision that allowed for the execution of innocent people (a Texas case). He supports the elimination of habeus corpus. He believes he has a right to arrest any political enemy as a terrorist and hold that person incommunicado. We've heard this from him and his Attorney General.

With Martha Stewart and Ken Lay, his Justice Department has already demonstrated the will to selectively prosecute crimes based on political affiliation. To boot, he has re-instituted a spoils system which rewards patrons and punishes those who do not support his positions.

The Dean campaign reminds me so much of the McGovern campaign of '72. The Republicans worked very hard to make sure McGovern was the opponent. I'm afraid we're only a couple of "skull and bones" posts and a Dean primary victory or two away from a Dean candidacy, a Bush win and a totalitarian state.

The one difference between this and Nixon's campaigns? This Bush is guy is 1000 times worse than Nixon. And this time, without a Congress to oppose him, he will have free reign to lay waste to this nation, and open the door to wholsale looting of our savings, along with arrests of his political opponents.

--Brian

[deutsey]

19. I'm ABB because if Bush wins

America as we know it will be radically altered by a rightwing agenda for decades to come if we lose.

Therefore, I'll vote for ABB, despite how much I may have to hold my nose to do so.

[TopesJunkie]

20. I am ABB. I am also ABKandL until the primaries are over --

I'll still vote for the nominee, but I won't be happy about it if it's Kerry or Lieberman. Not in the least. Nor do I think my vote will matter, if one of them wins the nomination.

[Lurking Dem]

21. Some of my reasons for ABB

appeared here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=224406&mesg_id=226162&page=



But I'm a bona fide Yellow Dog Dem.

[elperromagico]

23. Why ABB? Because I'd feel better with any of our candidates,

even Lieberman, in the Oval Office instead of George W. Bush.

[corporatewhore]

24. No.Becuase of a Woman named umhaider

she is an iraqi woman who i got to film an interview of when she came over to us with voices from the wilderness to get her son treatment for the 100 peices of shrapnel in him becuase of us bombs her other son died at the age of tweleve becuase of clintons bombs.She also describe how her standerd of living which detrierated becuase of sanctions (unicef say1 million iraqis died as a result of the sanctions which continued under clinton)I said to myself befor i met her that i would just suck it up hold my nose and vote ABB but she reminded me why i wouldnt

[corporatewhore]

25. Well one could make the argument for not being abb because of some

of the things you list like labor jobs tade Dems are not always the friend of labor NAFTA/GATT/WTO/FTAA and i rember their was a dispute regarding bostons dem mayor and unions earlier this year

[CabalBuster]

26. I am not ABB

Because I will not support a candidate who:

1) Gave Bush a blank check to attack Iraq
2) Voted for and or authored Bush's Patriot Act
3) Voted for No Child Left Behind
4) Is in bed with his big corporate donors
5) Is a Washington Insider
6) Belongs to the clandestine Skulls and Bones
7) Etc., etc., etc.

I believe that actions speak louder than words and those candidates actions in the past are a clear indication of their character and leadership (or lack of). If they didn't stand up for the country and for the common people then, what guarantee do we have that they will in the future? Talk is cheap.

[mzmolly]

27. Im waiting to see who's responsible for the Osama add on 2/1

before I can answer that personally.

[Walt Starr]

28. I'm Anybody But Bonesmen

pretty much for the same reasons you're ABB.