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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:18 AM
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I am soo freakin' sick of the word mislead.
The correct word is LIED

LIAR

LIE

LYING SACK OF SHIT

Would somebody of record, a congressperson or a senator, please stand up and just call Bush and Cheney a couple of LIARS. The American people know they lied--call em what they are.

John Kerry said "mislead" in his rebuttal to Cheney.

Goddammit, Cheney and Bush and Condi and Scooter and Hadley ALL LIED!!!
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:19 AM
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1. "I will restore honesty and integrity to the White House."
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 12:20 AM by mike_c
Best GWB quote of all time. And the repigs fell for it. :rofl:
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:21 AM
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2. I am tired of misled, too.
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Acryliccalico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:23 AM
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3. same here
a lie is a lie is a lie! :kick:
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:23 AM
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4. I'm not so sure it's a bad thing.
I can imagine it a good way to word it with a chunk of the population (conservatives mostly). It's gentlemanly and it really means the same thing.

I don't need it worded for, or from my anger. I just need the damn war to end.

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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:23 AM
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5. Right up there with "misspoke".
That'll be bush's excuse, once it's obvious that blaming Democrats for siding with him isn't working.

"I didn't mislead. I misspoke."
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:25 AM
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6. Yeah, "mislead" is too soft
How about "deceive"? "Betray"? "Beguile"? "Hoodwink"? "Flimflam"? "Bamboozle"? "Scam"? "Sucker"?

Personally, I find them to be much more descriptive that just "lie"
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:25 AM
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7. Here here
These Republicans did not mince words one bit when accusing Bill Clinton of lying about a blow job.

HE LIED (about sex).

The word "miselad" is a weasel word, written by spineless journalists, pissant congressional staffers and inside the Beltway consultants.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:27 AM
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8. Why am I the only one RECOMMENDING this?
The Dems are easing into the whole mess, but they are ruling. Their only weapon is the truth. How delightful is that?
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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:31 AM
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9. I'm so with you! Today, on CNN, Paul Begala actually said.....
Bush LIED us into war! I have been exhorting him (and other Dems on TV) to state that from the beginning of the war, when he would say that Bush misled us into war, or misspoke us into war, or blah, blah, blah! Today he actually said that Bush LIED us into war! I was cheering and stomping my feet because he actually said the word LIED!

We've come to the tipping point, I do believe!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:34 AM
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10. These assholes are.....

LYING!!!!!!

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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:45 AM
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11. Actually "mis-spoke" is my "nails down a chalkboard" word.
n/t
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Proud2BaLiberalMom Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:45 AM
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12. Treason!
They are treasonous, sons of bitch, LIARS!
Plain and simple. Glad Bagala said it, but
our ELECTED Officials need to SAY IT!!!
:banghead:
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:34 AM
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13. Crooked (Informal). Dishonest or unscrupulous; fraudulent
Describes them well.
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:59 AM
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14. To mis-speak implies it was done by accident, and thus does not apply.
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:17 AM
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15. Lied is a fighting word
that gets the average ordinary Republicans to rally for the Republicans. Mislead is a word that will get the average ordinary Republicans to force their elected officials to get with us. Its that simple. Being in the minority we need all the help we can get to take these corrupt sons a bitches down.

My two cents.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:25 AM
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18. Misspeak, sure. He said "misled"
Which is NOT accidental, and the same thing as lying. Big diff.
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 05:29 AM
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22. which is why we need to mis-slap the bastards.....eom
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:17 AM
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16. Right you are
That's the term.

:7

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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:24 AM
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17. Mislead means the same as lie to any person with a vocabulary
:eyes: Is attacking semantics the best we can do here? Please.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:46 AM
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19. I still like the line
when it came to telling the truth, Cheney had "other priorities."

A rose by any other name still smells as sweet.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:46 AM
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20. I think you've been reading my mind!
I'm totally sick of all those cowardly euphemisms too! Here's a thank-you letter I wrote to John Edwards a couple of days ago:

Dear Senator Edwards,

I have read your Washington Post editorial on several websites already. I want to thank you for having the courage to speak out and repudiate your vote for the IWR. For almost three years, I've been waiting for a few high-profile Democrats to do this. I hope more of them will follow your example and have the courage to state clearly and unequivocally: "I was wrong." It is only by admitting the mistake that we can begin taking steps to correct it. Thank you very much.

Just one other thing: I'm getting very tired of hearing the euphemism "misled" when it comes to the Bush administration's "fixed" intelligence regarding Saddam Hussein's nonexistent WMDs. Congress and the American people were not "misled." They were LIED TO! One of my litmus tests for a Democratic candidate in 2008 is one who has the guts to not only repudiate his or her IWR vote, but who USES THE WORD LIE when describing the fabrications of the White House Iraq Group, Ahmed Chalabi, Judith Miller and all the other disgusting manufacturers of consent, aka propagandists and LIARS!

Sincerely,
(Raksha)
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 04:23 AM
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21. For the purpose of accuracy
this is the one

"LYING SACK OF SHIT"

That's also a great descriptor for America's main stream media.

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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:58 AM
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23. No, the correct word is Fraud.
Funny, we are almost on the same page. Yes, they lied, but the crime they committed was defrauding Congress (and by proxy, US) to authorize war.

-Hoot
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:09 AM
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24. I am tired of it too--for another reason.
See "Get the Lead Out!"
http://grammartips.homestead.com/lead.html

(We were misled, not mislead.)
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:29 AM
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25. The words "lie" and "liar" aren't in the Official Politician's Dictionary
at least not until someone is ready to get impeached.

But then again, neither is the word "blowjob". If it was, Bill could've simply said, "I didn't have sex with Monica. I got a blowjob from her". It still wouldn't have gone over too well, what with the way he defines "having sex", but at least he wouldn't have gotten into so much trouble for "misleading" the American public.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:35 AM
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26. They never seem to have a problem using the L word and Clinton in the
same sentence. Seems that lying about *sex* is worse than lying about attacking Iraq in republicans' world.
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MsAnthropy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:32 PM
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27.  * in a recent Toles cartoon: "I didn't mislead, you misfollowed"
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BJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:50 PM
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28. Dont' 4get FRAUD!
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 03:09 PM
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29. No. Mislead is accurate.
they were VERY careful to parse, imply, intimate, but never directly claim ANYTHING. a few times they may have crossed the line between implication & a "lie", but typically, they stayed to the legally protected side. as in this: "it COULD be in the form of a mushroom cloud". "these aluminum tubes COULD be used to hold nukular weapons".

* never says anything specific in defense of his policies, not even to explain the mechanism of how iraqi insurgents are supposed to be emboldened by america's disenchantment with the carnage of empire. like they are about to quit except for us "far leftists"?

they were setting up this defense 3 years ago. its their philosophy of governing.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 03:51 PM
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30. Response: My Mamma & Daddy always just called it "lying"
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 03:52 PM by Dr Fate
"You Republicans and media people can call it what you want- but your mamma knows that a lie is a lie. Lying, misleading, whatever you media people call it, meant a trip to the woodshed in my house..."

We should call them LIARS and let them split hairs over the vague differences between lying and misleading.

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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 04:48 PM
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31. they have not LEGALLY lied
and that's what all the weasel words were for.

but you can't spell implied without lied.

hey, lie works for me, but i ain't a congressman or senator. they must not overstate.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 01:17 AM
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32. Could be- but I'd rather let the GOP/media split those hairs...
...lying, misleading- both accurate.
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:28 AM
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33. Try "propaganda." Russ Feingold likes the word.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 08:34 AM
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34. So, if they deny they LIE.....
...that just leaves "incredibly stupid" :)

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