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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 09:14 PM
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La Repubblica: Italian Niger investigation (and FBI) a whitewash (Hadley?)
Don't forget Hadley's tie in to Pollari, the head of SISMI when reading this story. According to Rosen ( http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?section=root&name=ViewWeb&articleId=10506 )
<snip>
# La Repubblica also now quotes a Bush administration official saying, "I can confirm that on September 9, 2002, General Nicolo Pollari met Stephen Hadley."<unsnip>


In a La Repubblica story entitled, Nigergate: The CIA confounded. SISMI "doctored" documents in the phony uranium dossier, published earlier this week, it was revealed that the earlier claims by the Italian government (and our own FBI), as a result of their recent investigation, left out one teensy bit of information: the forgeries themselves were later doctored! This clue to the larger story was discovered by a astute blogger, eriposte at theleftcoaster.com and picked up by the La Repubblica story (the paper mentions eriposte's work).

What does this mean? The conclusion that the forgeries were only a badly executed money-making scheme, as reported not long ago in the NYT and other national news outlets, turns out to be only a part of the story. Reports that the forgeries had somehow slipped by the Italian officials and arrived in the U.S. and slipped by OUR officials as well, and that it was all a huge and oh-so regrettable mistake, are revealed to be completely untrue, by the fact that SOMEONE doctored them, . That names, dates and other pertinant information were changed on the the transcripts of the forgeries indicates that SOMEONE knew they were forgeries BEFORE the information contained within them made its way to the the U.S., and ultimately into the President's SOTU speech.

La Repubblica and eriposte have demonstrated that the "money-making enterprise" explanation for the forgeries was a nothing more than a whitewash, meant to turn the whole issue of the Niger yellowcake forgeries, and hence, the issue of why we went to war itself, into an "oops" moment of no importance.

As DUers, we must not let this issue die.

Here's a translation of the La Republica article (with profound thanks to Nur al-Cubicle, who generously provides English translations of foreign press articles of interest to lefties on her blog): http://nuralcubicle.blogspot.com /

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Nigergate: The CIA confounded. SISMI "doctored" documents in the phony uranium dossier.

SISMI is familiar with the spectacularly phony dossier on the Niger uranium, assembled “by private motivation for lucre” by three characters on the SISMI’s payroll (Rocco Martino, Antonio Nucera and La Signora, who worked at the Embassy). SISMI is aware of the information contained the dossier. SISMI "doctors" the mistakes and absurdities contained in the documents. It does not entrust the dossier to the CIA but instead to a “field officer” of the Agency stationed in Rome, who is permitted to “view” the documents. The US agent scribbles a few notes resulting in the first report drafted in Washington. When the (false) news that Saddam is moving to acquire the bomb causes consternation (or joy) in the US intelligence community, Nicolò Pollari’s SISMI prepares a second report confirming the first, this time with the inclusion of a transcription of the Niger-Iraq agreement confirming “the credibility of the source (La Signora)”. With a third cable comes notification that finally, “500 tons of uranium have already been shipped to Iraq.” In the Nigergate affair, this is precisely what happened. Yet the Italian Government and the SISMI director stubbornly clings to the claim that Rome never sent a single document to Washington. They admit to having shared information with the American ally, but the point is this: Exactly what information did Italy share with the United States? It can be documented that our intelligence people, with the consent of the Italian Government, presented to the United States information which it knew to be not only falsified but so sloppily forged that is it necessary to remove some errors and to doctor others by means of the routine craftwork of clandestine services.

It isn’t that complicated to make decidedly false information appear to be true-or sufficiently true. As the cloak and dagger types know, "Disinformation relies on both the true and the false." This is the maxim which guides the cunning hand of Italian intelligence when it concocts, a month following 9-11, the swill of the uranium purchase in Niger by agents of Saddam Hussein. The half-baked frittata prepared by the Italians is a simple operation. For spies it should be child’s play to move a signature -a single signature- from one document to another. The Italian Job (the scam), as the Americans call it, would be more aptly named Three Card Monte (the three documents in question would be the cards) because it is carried out in plain view of everyone. More or less like the Purloined Letter of Edgar Allan Poe. The SISMI director admits - even in front of Italian Parliament - that on 18 October 2001 he forwards "information" to US intelligence confirming the “credibility of a source named La Signora, who in the past had already delivered “the genuine article” filched inside the Embassy of Niger in Rome, located at via Antonio Baiamonti No. 10.

SISMI Director Nicolò Pollari does not say what information he is guaranteeing (by vouching for La Signora) to the American ally. To uncover something more, you have to leaf through the US Senate report: Report on the U. S. Intelligence Community's Prewar Intelligence Assessments on Iraq. On Page 36, it reads:

Reporting on a possible yellowcake sales agreement between Niger and Iraq first came to the attention of the US Intelligence Community (IC) on October 15, 2002. The Central Intelligence Agency's Directorate of Operations (DO) issued an intelligence report (...) from a foreign government service indicating that Niger planned to ship several tons of uranium to Iraq (...). The intelligence report said the uranium sales agreement had been in negotiation between the two countries since at least early 1999, and was approved by the State Court of Niger in late 2000. According to the cable, Nigerois President Mamadou Tandja gave his stamp of approval for the agreement and communicated his decision to Iraqi President Saddam Hussein. The report also incicated that in October 2000 Nigerois Minister of Foreign Affairs Nassirou Sabo informed one of his ambassadors in Europe that Niger had concluded an accord to provide several tons of uranium to Iraq. (...).

We know that the “foreign country” is Italy. We therefore know that Rome vouches for four items of information: 1)The agreement between Niger and Iraq goes back to 1999; 2) the deal is approved by the State Court of Niger in 2000; 3)that Nigerois President Mamadou Tandja gave sanction to the sale and informs Saddam; and, 4) that Foreign Minister Nassirou Sabo informed his ambassadors in Europe of same.<unsnip>
The article goes on to explain how the information that Italy provided was different than the information in the original forgeries. Someone cleaned up the info so that the lie wouldn't be discovered.

As you can see, there are LOTS of very interesting questions raised by all of this. "Who" and "why" being only two.

Here's a link to the original article in La Republica: http://www.repubblica.it/2005/j/sezioni/esteri/nigergat...

Josh Marshall of talkingpoints memo.com is compiling a Niger yellowcake timeline, if anyone has something to add, or would like to take a look at what they've got so far, you can visit the site, here: http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/niger-uranium.php

And here is a link to the material by eriposte, to whom we all owe a tremendous debt of gratitude for such a detailed and fine analysis of the whole Nigergate problem: http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/006009.php
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 06:00 AM
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1. This deserves a
kick. And a recommend.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:48 PM
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2. It sure seems big to me...it hasn't even been mentioned in the msm.
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 01:51 PM by Wordie
So people are left with the misunderstanding that the forgeries were just a "mistake." That just doesn't seem to be true, does it?
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:39 PM
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3. This is a subject definitely worth investigation...
Unfortunately, it is complex, much like the BCCI scandal from the 80's, and people have a difficult time simplifying it to common understanding. This is the challenge.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 03:07 PM
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4. Yep...but what people need to understand, is it shows malice aforethought
The Italians would be unlikely to doctor the forgeries all on their own. After all, why should they? So it HAD to be influence from the Bush administration that got them to do so. This is just one more nail in coffin of the * admin, because it shows they lied us into war. Seems the deliberate fabrication of evidence for war is damning.

And some of the information points to Hadley. So, could Fitz have looked into this and found anything?

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 03:09 PM
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5. We should not forget that Chalabi was a master counterfeiter and forger..
He could have been involved in this little operation ?
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 03:21 PM
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6. Michael Ledeen arranged the meeting between Pollari and Hadley
in September of 2002. He's just as likely at the center of this all. Ledeen is also Karl Rove's foreign policy advisor.
Here's a good article for some more background:
http://www.vermontguardian.com/dailies/112005/1111.shtml

Quite a tangled web, eh?
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 06:54 PM
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12. I hadn't really been considering Chalabi, but you may have something there
because something about the Italian job certainly fits his M.O. as well as Ledeen's. I found this on the Washington Note (from Nov. 9), Steve Clemon's site, about Chalabi:

<snip>
A Short Rap Sheet on Ahmad Chalabi:

PENTAGON FUNDED CHALABI TO PROVIDE RATIONALE FOR WAR: The Pentagon's Defense Intelligence Agency paid the INC $335,000 a month in the lead-up to the Iraq war to gather intelligence. In all, the Bush White House has given the INC at least $39 million over the past 5 years.

CHALABI ATTENDED PLANNING MEETING AT THE PENTAGON JUST DAYS AFTER 9/11 ATTACKS: On September 18, 2001, Richard Perle convened a two-day meeting of the Defense Policy Board, a group that advises the Pentagon. Chalabi, who was a guest speaker at this meeting, made a presentation on the Iraqi threat.

CHALABI STOVEPIPED INTEL TO BUSH...: ...State Dept. Intelligence expert Greg Thielmann said, "There was considerable skepticism throughout the intelligence community about the reliability of Chalabi's sources, but the defector reports were coming all the time. Knock one down and another comes along. Meanwhile, the garbage was being shoved straight to the President." The INC also takes credit for providing raw, unsubstantiated information directly to John Hannah, then-special assistant for national security in Vice President Dick Cheney's office.

CHALABI PROVIDED AGENT CURVEBALL TO AFFIRM SUPPOSED EXISTENCE OF SADDAM'S BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS LABS: "A U.S. official confirmed that defectors from Chalabi's organization had provided suspect information to numerous Western intelligence agencies. 'It's safe to say he tried to game the system,' the official said."

CHALABI PLANTED FABRICATED NEWS STORIES: Chalabi was the source for discredited news stories about Iraq and weapons of mass destruction which were penned by New York Times reporter Judith Miller...

I also looked up a New Yorker article (from the June '04 issue) that the article references, which I am offering for your reading pleasure: http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?040607fa_fact1
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 03:49 PM
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7. When the neocon spy/AIPAC scandal
began to heat up, Patrick Buchanan was the first nationally known journalist to connect it with the Plame scandal. I think that the two are connect to the Niger document forgeries, like the three leaves on a clover.

Earlier today, on DU:GD, I posted a couple short threads, one attempting to briefly outline some of Woodward's writings about the Niger yellow cake issue(s), and the other exposing how Newt Gingrich, who has been on Fox's Hannity & Colmes frequently, is more closely tied to the Plame scandal than Woodward.

I think that we should be participating in a loose-knit, decentralized campaign to contact specific media targets, with concise messages. If, on a given day, a show like Countdown gets 100-200 e-mails on a specific subject, they are more likely to take notice of it.

The subject matter in the OP here is one of those issues that should be used by DUers, in an attempt to get one program to have a segment on it. Once one does, others will follow.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 04:13 PM
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8. It IS all connected: It's AIPAC- Plame- NigerYellowcake- Treason-gate!
I didn't see your threads in GD. Could you edit your post above to include them, just for any later readers of this thread, who want to follow all this? (That possible Woodward link to the Niger Yellowcake issue seems particularly intriguing. And I wondered why Gingrich was suddenly re-appearing now.)
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:24 PM
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13. Newt is "exploring"
the possibility of a presidential campaign in 2008. I am serious.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:55 PM
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15. Oh, I know...it's laughable!
(I hope everyone will laugh, but then there's Bush's base...)
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 04:42 PM
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9. Loose knit campaign to contact specific media at same time is good
That is DU living up to its potential as a grass roots posse to make media notice people are paying attention and want issues explored.

First impulse is Olberman, as he is pretty willing to take point on TV. But are there others we might consider as a first target for some emails about this?

Never liked his politics, but ol Buchanan has been a quiet voice swimming against the tide on MSM for a long time. Gotta say, I do believe the man loves America and wants to save it.

The junta has done too much to promote rather than limit weapons proliferation. They make $$ on war and don't care what the cost in lives.

We stop them. We expose them. We take the helm back and get the ship of state back on course. We do it. We The People need to let Cheney know he does NOT have the consent of the governed.

Contact media folks. Demand the Fourth Estate do its job.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 05:57 PM
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10. Maybe we should also try Tweety...he's been pretty frisky going after this
stuff of late. And he is on a LOT of the time now. But who should we try on CNN?
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 06:03 PM
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11. Anderson Cooper has a new, more important slot now to get going
And he certainly seems to have received quite an education on just how honorable the malAdministration isn't when he was on the ground in NOLA after Katrina. His dander has been up too. ;)

Can't find an email addy for him, but here is the link to the contact page for his show on CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?10

You're right, Tweety has been singing something besides the praises of the junta lately. And he has been darned frisky! Good call. He needs to hear from us too. ;)
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:31 PM
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14. Buchanan is an odd guy.
When he was a young man, an aggressive cop kept pushing him. Buchanan beat the heck out of the cop. While I in no way advocate fighting anyone, especially police officers, I think it shows that Pat had pretty strong beliefs about right and wrong from a young age on .... and that he is willing to fight for them.

His ideas on social policy are the typical rigid Irish-American Catholic ones that stunted too many from his generation. He reminds me of a few of my relatives who suffer from that same fear of pleasure. But as far as international policy goes, even with his Nixonian-system of beliefs, he is a smart man. And he knows the neocons are a danger to our constitutional democracy.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 08:30 PM
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17. Buchanan...
has a deep and broad sense of history which informs his opinions. This is refreshing in a sound-bite world. So even though I don't have anywhere near such a grasp of history (to put it mildly), and surely don't always agree with him, his opinions are worth listening to, imho.

...and the scrapiness can be either appealing or highly annoying, depending on which side of an issue he is on. LOL
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 08:13 PM
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16. Larry Franklin, who has entered a guilty
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 08:16 PM by Catrina
plea already, was in Italy with Michael Ledeen when the Niger documents surfaced. He was also close to Douglas Feith. Feith quit shortly after Larry Franklin was arrested.

The Pentagon Spy trials will begin in January ~

This article talks about the meeting with Larry Franklin and Ledeen in Italy and shows the connection beyween the Niger forgeries case, the Pentagon Spy case and the Valerie Plame outing:

"The story of Italian military intervention in Iraq begins when the resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, Michael Ledeen, sponsored by Defense Minister Antonio Martino, debarks in Rome with Pentagon men in tow to meet a handful of “Iranian exiles.” The meeting is organized by SISMI. In an Agency “safe house” near Piazza di Spagna (however, other sources have told us it was a reserved room in the Parco dei Principi Hotel).

Twenty men are gathered around a large table, covered by maps of Iraq, Iran and Syria. The big cheese are Lawrence Franklin and Harold Rhode of the Office of Special Plans, Michael Ledeen of the AIE, a SISMI chief accompanied by his assistant (the former is a balding man between 46 and 48 years of age; the latter is younger, around 38, with braces on his teeth) and some mysterious Iranians.

Pollari confirms the meeting to La Repubblica...


http://nuralcubicle.blogspot.com/2005/10/sismis-war-in

I think the Iranians were the arms dealers ~ one being a friend of Ledeen's since his Iran Contra days.
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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 08:46 PM
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18. What Plame & Wilson REALLY know about the Docs..Would
they have divuldged any of their undercover dealings with Fitzgerald?
They were in the midst of the Niger trail at different times, but they, nonetheless, were privy to more knowledge of the who's who & what's what in this delicate issue.
No doubt Plame was on the trail of some damning info that Bush/Cheney & pals didn't want disturbed.
Perhaps Valeria has given Fitz some clues as to the nastiness of this trail.
Cheney should have left her alone..
"a woman will bring down GWBush."
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