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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 06:43 PM
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Kurt Weldon (R) vs. Tim Roemer (D) re: Able Danger
Tim Roemer again shows his stripes.

-on Lou Dobbs. I think I'm going with Weldon. He also says he's got 100 signatures of both liberals and conservatives who also want an investigation into the matter.

What are you hiding Tim?
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:02 PM
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1. The entire 9/11 Cover Up Commission are hiding the Truth
They're all guilty of one of the biggest cover up's since JFK - I'm referring to the events of 9/11.

I haven't followed the minutia of Able Danger - (or even a rough outline for that matter)- but following some aspects of 9/11 - and watching how Clinton, Albright and others from that administration along with the neo-cons that were placed into power in 2000, there's no doubt in my mind that some of the sleaziest machinations that have undermined our democracy in sometime directly tied to Oil investments, pipelines and the like in south asia, africa, and the middle east.

Notice I didn't say National Security was being undermind, I said our demoracy was undermind if not all but destroyed.

I know Weldon is talking about our national security was jeopardized, i'm not prepared to buy that. Every priority has been given to our national security since the start of the Cold War, preparing for every contigency concievable.









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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:14 PM
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2. Weldon fascinates me..
Is he clueless? Wondering why his bosses aren't interested in something he thinks will land in Clinton's lap? Or is he really outraged?
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:08 PM
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3. I get the strong impression
that Weldon wants to lay 911 at the feet of Bill Clinton. I don't trust him for one second.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:44 PM
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4. Hey there Al-CIAda
:hi:

I have not seen you in awhile. Did you know that a lot of folks were worried about you?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4704756




BUDDY BUDDY
http://www.gsnmagazine.com.nyud.net:8090/images/aug_05/atta.jpg
DO THE MATH

24 MINUTES

THERE MUST HAVE BEEN A MILITARY ORDER
WATCH THIS VIDEO

http://www.bushflash.com/buddy.html


http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/8/24/124834/678


DIA Agents were ordered to put yellow Post-its over Atta's face and the face's of 3 other 9/11 terrorists

"We were directed to take those 3M yellow stickers and place them over the faces of Atta and the other terrorists and pretend they didn't exist," the intelligence officer told GSN."

Intel agents Michael Shaffer and Scott Philpott have confirmed Rep. Weldon's claims that a chart with Atta's face, soon the photos of 3 other members of the 9-11 terror team, were known to DIA team Able Danger by early 2000.

This diary will show that Pete Schoomaker and Philip Zelikow are two of the main Perpetraitors in this scandal, that they deliberately withheld information from the President of the United States that would have prevented 9/11, that they and their neo-con rulers Let It Happen On Purpose.

Of this there can no longer be any doubt.



MUST READ - RE: ABLE DANGER INFO
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4447706

Hopsicker: Able Danger Intel Exposed "Protected" Heroin Trafficking
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x149481


Able Danger: Short Time-line
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4441903

Was Able Danger Shut Down After It Detected Condi-PRC Spy Ring?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4494524



Senate May Hold Hearings on Able Danger, Info Sharing
Thursday, August 25, 2005


Able Danger (search) is the code name for a military-intelligence unit that apparently learned a year before the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks that lead hijacker Mohamed Atta (search) and other terrorists were already in the United States.

One of the central Able Danger claims — that military lawyers blocked the sharing of the Atta information from the FBI in the late summer and early fall of 2000 — will be a focus of the committee's if a hearing takes place, FOX News has confirmed.

Some analysts involved with Able Danger have recently gone public with their findings, saying they were discouraged from looking further into Atta, and their attempts to share their information with the FBI were thwarted, because Atta was a legal foreign visitor at the time.

"This story needs to be told. The American people need to be told what could have been done to prevent 3,000 people from losing their lives," said Rep. Curt Weldon (search), R-Pa.

Weldon drew attention to Able Danger by speaking about it on the House floor and publicly calling for the Sept. 11 commission to explain why the intelligence information wasn't detailed in its final report.

Some Able Danger analysts, including Army Reserve Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer (search) and Navy Capt. Scott Phillpott (search), claim that in October 2003, they told commission staffers of the presence of Al Qaeda operatives in the United States in 2000.


more
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,166800,00.html


Senate May Hold Hearings on Able Danger, Info Sharing
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1727804&mesg_id=1727804




Condi in Middle of Able Danger ‘Cover Up’"

Weldon is now saying that the Pentagon cover up of able danger “will shake the country to its roots."

...

If the claims made by the Able Danger participants and Rep. Weldon are confirmed, former National Security Adviser Rice and other Bush Administration officials will face a barrage of questions. First would likely be an inquiry into why the administration unceremoniously axed the Able Danger project in May of 2001.

During an August 20th interview on C-Span’s Washington Journal, Able Danger member Lt. Col. Schaffer posed a question of his own:

"The American public should ask themselves: Why would the leadership of DoD shut down, terminate, a project which was aimed at targeting al-Qaeda offensively? ...

"Why would they shut that down, four months before 9/11? That’s the big question right now, we have to ask that. I don’t know the answer to that question because I know my side of the story, I know that when a 2 star general got in my face and said, “I’m a 2 star general and you are not. You are to stop your support of Able Danger.” That’s what I know personally. But the question has to be: Who told him to do that? ...

"And why did the rest of the project, I’m talking about Special Operations Command and the Army portion of this, why was that terminated?

"Those are the questions that need to be asked."


more...

http://www.theinternationalpost.com/z30082005.html

Congressman Weldon -- Why now? Why ever?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4500623

Three more assert Pentagon knew of 9/11 ringleader By Will Dunham

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Three more people associated with a secret U.S. military intelligence team have asserted that the program identified September 11 ringleader Mohammed Atta as an Al Qaeda suspect inside the United States more than a year before the 2001 attacks, the Pentagon said on Thursday.

The Pentagon said a three-week review had turned up no documents to back up the assertion, but did not rule out that such documents relating to the classified operation had been destroyed.

Navy Capt. Scott Phillpott and Army Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer last month came forward with statements that a secret intelligence program code-named "Able Danger" had identified Atta, the lead hijacker in the attacks that killed 3,000 people, in early 2000. Pennsylvania Republican Rep. Curt Weldon (news, bio, voting record), vice chairman of the House of Representatives Armed Services Committee, also went public with the allegations.

Pat Downs, a senior policy analyst in the office of the undersecretary of defense for intelligence, told reporters that as part of the review, the Pentagon interviewed 80 people.

Downs said that three more people, as well as Phillpott and Shaffer, recalled the existence of an intelligence chart identifying Atta by name. Four of the five recalled a photo of Atta accompanying the chart, Downs said.

Pentagon officials declined to identify the three by name, but said they were an analyst with the military's Special Operations Command, an analyst with the Land Information Warfare Assessment Center and a contractor who supported the center.

Downs said all five were considered "credible people."

But officials said an exhaustive search of tens of thousands of documents and electronic files related to Able Danger failed to find the chart or other documents corroborating the identification of Atta. Phillpott has said Atta was identified by Able Danger by January or February of 2000.

"We have not discovered that chart," Downs said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050901/pl_nm/security_attacks_pentagon_dc


Three more assert Pentagon knew of 9/11 ringleader
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1744982&mesg_id=1744982

Specter Wants Answers About 'Able Danger'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1796658&mesg_id=1796658


NYT/Reuters: Pentagon Blocks Testimony at Senate Hearing on Terrorist
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1795221&mesg_id=1795221

NOW - ON CAPITOL HILL - Able Danger Inquiry CSPAN3 9:30am et
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4836496

Able Danger ties Condi Rice to Chinese espionage! (really!)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4846388&mesg_id=4846388

VIDEO-the Senate Judicial Committee ABLE DANGER saga
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?

Official: (Curt Weldon) Attack on Cole foreseen (ABLE DANGER)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1915365&mesg_id=1915365

New 9/11 Timeline update, with new Able Danger page
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:26 PM
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5. Hello SLAD!
Thank you for the link. I had no idea I was so missed. I had since gotten in touch w/BamaBecky. Good people here. Thanks. Most is well, I am very fortunate.


...and great post above (as usual).
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TruthStream_dot_org Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:07 AM
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6. Weldon kicked ass
I posted a link to the press conference where he just GOES OFF saying how he is sick and tired of the cover ups.

http://truthstream.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=49

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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 08:38 AM
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7. Welcome to DU, TruthStream_dot_org!
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 01:40 PM
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9. Hi TruthStream_dot_org!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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TruthStream_dot_org Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 02:10 PM
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10. Thanks!
Thanks, CIA and newyawker - good to be back ;-)
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:07 AM
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8. Curt not Kurt.
Edited on Wed Nov-16-05 11:08 AM by MH1
http://curtweldon.house.gov/

I don't trust him either but this situation is intriguing.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 10:28 PM
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11. Thanks. My apolgies to the man, and to the board. -eom
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 10:32 PM
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12. Weldon on Able Danger Lou Dobbs transcript-
Weldon's faced criticism from 9/11 commission member Tim Roemer for his call for an investigation into the Able Danger claims.

"The way he talks about Able Danger these days, you'd think it would have prevented Pearl Harbor and maybe had Congress spend money responsibly or develop some kind of immigration policy," Roemer told CNN's Lou Dobbs on Monday.

Weldon joined Dobbs on Tuesday to discuss Roemer's remarks, as well as his call for an Able Danger investigation.

full-
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/16/weldon.able.danger/index.html
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