Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Gore/Lieberman in 2000

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
dghll Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:45 PM
Original message
Gore/Lieberman in 2000

Sure I voted for them. But Joe can go to hell. (with Zell).

- good now this post rhymes.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:49 PM
Response to Original message
1. lieberman might be a turncoat.his song & dance might 've been diff. if
Gore had taken his rightful seat at the oval office.

But then, again, would he have tried to influence Gore's thinking with all his right wing stupidity?

And then again, what was Gore thinking when he named him his VP running mate?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:54 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. He was trying to distance himself from Clinton.
Joementum was the biggest dem critic of the Lewinsky affair. And he was Jewish, which both helped keep the Jewish community on board, and broke a barrier, as he was the first Jewish nominee.

It was seen as a bold move, which was intentional, and he got some desperately needed positive press for it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dghll Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:01 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. Ya but I liked Bill Clinton
The bashing he took from low lifes (like Hutchinson) on the right should not have gotten any support from Dems.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:03 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. And yet, Joementum did it anyway. What a clown. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:06 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. I consider joe more of a monster than a clown.
He has done a lot of harm to
this Democracy and he will inflict
a lot more pain before he is gone.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 02:14 PM
Response to Reply #8
14. In order to be a monster, people have to take you seriously.
Edited on Tue Nov-15-05 02:14 PM by tasteblind
I don't think people take him seriously. R's hate him because he is a Democrat. Democrats hate him because he isn't.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 02:52 PM
Response to Reply #14
16. Right you are. Joe is only a monster wanna be
:)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:29 PM
Response to Reply #3
10. Yes, I agree
with your comments about Liberman. The only problem that Gore had, he wanted to be "his own man" and did not call on Clinton and use him. This was biggest mistake of the Gore campaign.

When Gore started his campaign 2000,Clinton was polling anywhere from 68 to 71% approval of the job as President.(Clinton left office on Jan.20,2001 with approval of 69% to 72%) The other poll was about his(Clinton) character and that was from 37 to 42% brought about by the Monica affair. The American people were smart in separating the two, but Team Gore bought into the republishit spin about using Clinton.

The same damn people that was running the Gore campaign were the same ones running the Kerry campaign. There has to be somebody better then Bob Schrum and Mary Beth Cahill. Damn!

Sure the Senate speech given by Liberman was just. He needed to say what he did and I would say there would be no Democrat that would disagree. Clinton did wrong! Liberman and Gore should have during the campaign reached out to Clinton. He and Gore were both covered because they had stated what Clinton did was wrong, but then forgiveness is found in both Jewish and Christianity.Those same American people that gave Clinton the high job approval as President would know the difference that Gore/Liberman were not approving of what Clinton did in private but what he as the LAST GREAT AMERICAN PRESIDENT offered and gave over his 8 years. PEACE AND PROSPERITY...

Well, I digress, but in the 06 and 08 races if we as a party stay pissed off at whomever, then we will miss a golden opportunity to make inroads in the House and Senate, and the Presidency. I guess Will Rodgers was right, " I do not belong to any organized political party. I am a Democrat"....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
safi0 Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #3
13. About the Jewish thing
Gore could've selected Feingold or Wellstone and it would've given him the same benefits that Lieberman gave with the Jewish community. The Clinton thing was the biggest reason IMO

A good VP is supposed to do atleast 2 of the following 3: Solidify the base, offer gegraphical support(Edwards was supposed to do this), give the candidate credibility in areas they didn't have experience(Gore and Cheney). Lieberman offered none of these. He didn't solidify the base, CT was never really considered a swing state and Al Gore didn't have any problems with policy credibility. Feingold or Wellstone would've solidifed the base and they would've offered geogaphical support.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 02:50 PM
Response to Reply #13
15. Wellstone had only been elected in 96, though.
Even Edwards had more senatorial experience. But I see what you're saying.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #1
6. He wanted the Jewish vote
He thought Lie berman would help him, that little right wing tool....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:05 PM
Response to Reply #1
7. Joe came off as being the wierdo he is. It hurt Gore, no doubt.

Joe was creepy then and he is creepy still.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:54 PM
Response to Original message
2. On the other hand
Zell had a hell of a nomination speech in 1992 during the convention to select Bill Clinton. I think that he was the governor of GA then.

This was the first I've heard of him and carried a favorable impression, until his brain cells start turning into a mush in 2004.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:07 PM
Response to Original message
9. I voted for them as well
though, even then, I had reservations about Lieberman.

Made me wish that the Pres/VP were separate votes...

Lieberman has done nothing in the past 5 years to convince me that I should have been happy to vote for him. (though I WAS happy to vote for Gore himself)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dghll Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:34 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. dupe
Edited on Tue Nov-15-05 01:35 PM by dghll
dupe sorry

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dghll Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #9
12. It seems a bad idea to pick your runnner-up

Uggh. JL as pres? ughh ugghh ublahhhh







Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed May 01st 2024, 02:03 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC