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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 07:48 PM
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Lieberman on the floor not regretting his vote on the IWR.
Edited on Mon Nov-14-05 07:50 PM by Mass
Repeating the same talking points than Bush about the international community thinking that Saddam had WMDs.

Dont withdraw or there will be civil war in Iraq, Iran, and Syria.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 07:50 PM
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1. What is wrong with him?
:grr:
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 07:56 PM
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11. Why does LIEberman even call himself a Dem anymore? Is there anything that
he disagrees with the RW RepubliCONs on?

I still can't believe this weasel of a man was Gore's running mate... :puke:
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 07:51 PM
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2. CHICKENHAWK
His statement makes me sick.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 07:51 PM
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3. Just like his President, he needs to go
The Connecticut people should be able to handle that.
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Gingergal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 07:51 PM
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4. I hope Lieberman runs again for president
so he can have another humiliating defeat. Why can't he just keep his mouth shut?
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 07:51 PM
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5. That Sorry Piece of Shit
He ought to go to Hell. Why doesn't he just change his political affiliation? He's obviously nothing more than a Republican Neo-Conservative of the first level. Disgusting... How do they work with this guy?
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 07:52 PM
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6. Check out this about Lieberman:
http://www.democracycellproject.net/blog/archives/2005/11/cornerstones_an.html#comments

scroll down to:

Posted by: sparrow at November 14, 2005 11:13 AM

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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 07:52 PM
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7. Go across the aisle, Loserman, your not helping.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 07:53 PM
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8. we are already in the middle of a civil war liberman, YOU IDIOT!!!
please change your party affiliation


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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 07:54 PM
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9. of course he doesn't
Israel loves the U.S. blowing up its neighbors so it can expand unimpeded
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:01 PM
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20. where is that coming from?
because Lieberman is Jewish, are you making some association?

The U.S. went to Iraq because of the bush administration and congress giving bush unprecedented power enabled by the morans in this country who not only elected him twice, but gave him a rethug congress



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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:13 PM
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31. Yes, of course I am
Why do you ask?
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:31 PM
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45. because liberman does NOT speak for all Jews in this country
Edited on Mon Nov-14-05 08:32 PM by still_one
yet alone for Israel

boxer and feingold are Jewish and opposed the war in Iraq as two notable exceptions
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BigYawn Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:53 PM
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54. You are exactly right...Israel is more important than democratic party
to Sen Lieberman.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:49 AM
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58. frankly nothing is more important than the U.S.
over any political party

and going into Iraq not only WAS NOT IN OUR BEST INTEREST, it was based on a lie, unethical, immoral, and is being done in our name


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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 07:56 PM
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10. He accuses the debates to be partisan debates
(what does he think Bush is doing?)

Talking about the past will reduce the support of the war!
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 07:56 PM
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12. Now I've heard it all .. Reading from the Bible.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 07:56 PM
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13. Not to put too fine a point on it, but
Joe IS Jewish (hey, HE made it a big deal, about when he would work if V-P).
Removing threats to Israel might be a good thing to him.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 07:57 PM
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14. But the war in Iraq does not remove a threat to Israel, on the contrary
Edited on Mon Nov-14-05 07:58 PM by Mass
Feingold is Jewish too, so are Levin and Boxer.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:05 PM
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22. It is so easy to stero-type that all neocons, and PNAC
represent the Jewish opinion in this country, when the majority of Jews are liberal, didn't vote for bush or the neocon agenda


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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:15 PM
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35. Right! And is Dick Cheney Jewish?
Of course not. And Cheney is a charter member of PNAC.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:27 PM
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43. so is rumsfeld and others who are not Jewish
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:14 PM
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32. Yeah...but their are Sharon supporters and those who want to work for
Peace...There really is a difference. Just like here in America there are Bush Policy Supporters and those of us who feel he's gone "THE WRONG WAY."

Liberman seems to hold "loyalties" to something besides the Christian Right...so we need to take that into consideration...don't we? :shrug:
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:17 PM
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37. So it is not the fact he is Jewish. It is that he is an idiot.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:28 PM
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44. sounds like you hit the nail right on the head
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 09:21 PM
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49. He is an Idiot who has loyalty to a "cause" that interferes with his DUTY
as a Senator from Connecticut. However, CT does still make money from "Defense Contracts" and he saved their Navy Base in Groton. So, he uses his War Mongering to tell folks he saves their local industy...while still supporting efforts that have to do with his relgious loyalties.

So, see, it's hard to go at Lieberman because he always has a "defense."

:shrug:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 09:28 PM
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50. CT...a state full of Bedroom Community Stock Brokers, Venture
Edited on Mon Nov-14-05 09:32 PM by KoKo01
Captialists,Wall Street Lawyers, Old Money Gentry, Defense Community i.e. Military Bases and Indian Gameing....

Lieberman does well for them all. (I don't think I've seen a connection to the Indian Gameing...but who knows...the way he's chummed it up with Bush...maybe theirs a DeLay/Abramoff/Reed/Norquist connection somewhere there. Big Money/Wall Street/Old Money Wall Street and Defense are the big things that run that state. It's "socially Dem" but loyalty is always about what's in the wallet and the trust accounts.

I lived there once...in the heart of the beast...Greenwich, Ct.
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BigYawn Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:54 PM
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55. I disagree...Saddam was an openly declared threat to Israel..n/t
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 07:57 PM
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15. Fido Ought To Go Back In His Doghouse,
and stay there. Woof - woof
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 07:58 PM
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16. Somebody shut this bastard up.... Now and forever. n/t
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 07:58 PM
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17. Lieberman has no honor--the same rotten shit they said back in Vietnam,
Edited on Mon Nov-14-05 08:03 PM by flpoljunkie
and we were right about Vietnam--all those dominos did not fall. George W. Bush welcomed the head of Vietnam to the White House just this year.

Bullshit, Lieberman. Stop peddling this scurrilous crap! "Encourage the terrorists!" Lieberman uses the same disingenuous lines as Bush. We will stay there as long as it takes and no longer"--Bush's exact words!
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:00 PM
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18. Does Lieberman have to make another run in '06?
Edited on Mon Nov-14-05 08:00 PM by radio4progressives
Are there any prospective anti-war/populist Dem candidate to run against that freak?

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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:07 PM
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25. There was a rumor that Paul Newman might run for his seat
but haven't heard anything about that for some time


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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:08 PM
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26. After this, I will welcome anybody.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:12 PM
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29. I am from California, but will contribute to anyone who runs against him
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:14 PM
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34. I am from MA, but I feel the same way
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:57 PM
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56. I'm from NC and will do the same.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:39 AM
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61. I'm outside the U.S. at this time -- but I will certainly contribute
Edited on Tue Nov-15-05 08:40 AM by Douglas Carpenter
to a credible primary challenge
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Idioteque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:01 PM
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19. The Democratic Party is finally getting on the same page with Iraq...
...leave it to Holy Joe to screw it up.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:06 PM
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23. forget about him
as long as the majority in the party do the right thing he will become irrelevent


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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:04 PM
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21. For god's sake, Levin watered down the amendment so that all
Edited on Mon Nov-14-05 08:07 PM by Mass
could sign it and Lieberman is not happy.

He will vote against it.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:09 PM
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27. Where do Lieberman's loyalties,priorities lie?Certainly not with his party
Edited on Mon Nov-14-05 08:10 PM by flpoljunkie
Supporting the troops is not sending them to war because you want to, but when you have to. Shame on Lieberman, Bush enabler. He disgusts me.
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BigYawn Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:58 PM
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57. Lieberman is convinced he helped Israel and USA by removing
Saddam who had openly declared demolition of Isarel.
If Saddam attacks Israel, US was bound to jump in as an ally.
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Idioteque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:18 PM
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39. If Lieberman is gonna be a turncoat, Levin should put the good stuff back!
Lieberman should shut his mouth and abstain from the vote. Every word out of his mouth is a stab in the back to his party.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:07 PM
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24. Of course he'll vote against the Levin Amendment!!!
But vote FOR the Warner Amendment -- could this bastard be anymore of a D.I.N.O.?
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:12 PM
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28. Will they be voting on the Levin and Warner amendments tonight?
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:13 PM
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30. Tomorrow.
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joanski0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:14 PM
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33. Lieberman has made me so sick to my
stomach. He sounded just like bush*, only a little more coherent. Yes, he said he was voting for Warner's amendment and against Levin's amendment. Lieberman says No timetable. Lieberman says forget how we got there, and so much more. Lieberman has made me hate him.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:16 PM
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36. What a RINO? Defender of torture!
We also need to get rid of Lieberman.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:17 PM
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38. Miserable piece of shit says the problem is a lack of trust between the
Executive branch AND THE DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS!!

You fucking moron, who on earth trusts those lying bastards anymore?!
The fucking repukes don't even trust the Executive...they're only in it for the money.


Question: Does anyone in Connecticut own a yellow dog? May we borrow it?

Lieberman MUST go!!
:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:
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joanski0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:21 PM
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40. Warner says "we are so fortunate that our
friend, the Senator from Connecticut has joined us". Well, this is the final straw for Liebershit. What a slobbering pig.

The Senate is adjourning until 9:45 a.m. tomorrow.

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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:36 PM
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46. "Fortunate our mole, the senator from connecticut, has joined us"
He hasn't joined you yet, Warner...that's why we're mad!
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:21 PM
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41. Howard Dean needs to kick his ass
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:27 PM
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42. Words cannot express my disgust
whhen I see that photo.

:puke:

What scum...I wonder what happened to the Lieberman defenders.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:37 PM
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47. Is anyone surprised? He's a true believer in the neo-con deal
And he always was and always will be. This may be worse (yeah..actually loads worse) than>insert your least favorite compromised doing it to get elected> Dem. At least they EVENTUALLY at least pretend to care about their base and get with the team. Lieberman will always be on the other team on this issue.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:39 PM
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48. Bush kissed Lieberman on the cheek during last years SOTU speech
Holy Joe might as well been kissed by bin Laden for Bush and bin Laden are terrorists that delight in butchering innocent men, women, and children.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 09:32 PM
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51. He needs to be thrown out with
the neocons if possible. Lying a nation into war cannot stand. Trying to conquer the middle east over the next 30 years can't be allowed to happen. It will break us. Any member of this country's government that wants to continue perpetuating lies needs to GO, whether they are republican or any lapdog traitor democrats. Sorry, but I won't sell my soul for a victory with ANY pro war pro lying democrat as my nominee for such a "victory" will be hollow.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:38 PM
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52. Lieberman works for Israel first. I wish Israel could be free of the
fascists controlling it.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:41 PM
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53. Lieberman, so out of touch and misguided. n/t
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:13 AM
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59. NYT writes entire story on Levin/Warner amendments w/o mentioning
Lieberman is voting for the Warner/Frist amendment, only that he saw the proposal as a "potential turning point."

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/15/politics/15cong.html?ei=5094&en=1b0f7720627f5fd3&hp=&ex=1132117200&partner=homepage&pagewanted=print

Democrats said the plan represented a shift in Republican sentiment on Iraq and was an acknowledgment of growing public unrest with the course of the war and the administration's frequent call for patience. "I think it signals the fact that the American people are demanding change, and the Republicans see that that's something that they have to follow," said Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the Democratic leader.

Mr. Frist said an important reason for the Republican proposal was to offer an alternative to the Democratic call for a withdrawal timetable. "The real objective was to get out of this timeline of cutting and running that the Democrats have in their amendment," he said.

Mr. Warner said he decided to take the Democratic proposal and edit it to his satisfaction in an effort to find common ground between the parties on the issue.

Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, Democrat of Connecticut, said he saw the proposal as a potential "turning point" in Congressional deliberation over Iraq and related issues.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:23 AM
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60. The huge difference is that the Republicans refused to ask Bush
to say that the occupation was not PERMANENT, but rather used the vague, Bushlike terms "NO LONGER THAN NEEDED".

But you cant really ask the NYTimes to report accurately on that.
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