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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:13 PM
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Yep! Just what I thought! They stole this election too!!!
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:20 PM
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1. take results you dont like. flip them. voila.
and noone is likely to do anything about it.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:20 PM
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2. Marc 'n Mark
Edited on Mon Nov-14-05 03:21 PM by xxqqqzme
were talking about this on Morning Sedition - boy I'm gonna miss that show - not really a big surprize. When I heard the unbelievable lop-sided results last week, I shrugged and thought yea, so what's the big surprize? As long as the rethugs control the vote counting, Ohio is lost. Don't know how buckeyes will get out of this hole.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 08:12 PM
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13. You mean the Marks admit now that elections are stolen?
Man, a pink slip sure opened their eyes!
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:31 PM
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3. The amazing part
is there was a studied variety of support for different proposals EXCEPT when it came to the final results which showed a more closely lockstep and sometimes crushingly different 70/30 split against them all.

You really would want an exit poll to nail this one which would also show how an analysis of the voter's mindset can more legitimately be used.
I take it there were no in depth exit polls or pools at all after? In fact, the discrepancy having to do with issue judgment it still is not too late to TRY and find a group of actual voters that match up with the vote count. It would seem they might have a very hard time doing that at all if that huge spread is hugely phony and an especially hard time coming up with uniform numbers on 2 through 5 with a single reason other than "Clackwell and the Christian Coalition told me so."
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:33 PM
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4. What....The....Fuck....?
That's not just a few percent. It's like they are trying to see how much they can get away with.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:38 PM
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5. If they don't keep stealing elections
Dems will come to power and then expose how the Gobbers stole the previous ones: they're locked in to continuing their crimes like a liar that must tell a new lie to cover his old ones.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 04:01 PM
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9. They most certainly are...
...locked in to this cycle. BushCo knows that escaping accountability for the war crimes they've committed in Fallujah and elsewhere means Republifascists MUST retain power in America for the foreseeable future. No way we'll ever see free and fair elections again without a revolution. I think most people know this, but haven't quite come to terms with it yet. It is a hard pill to swallow.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:41 PM
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6. Gee, so many voters in Ohio changed their minds on all but one
issue (the first one) at the last minute...what are the odds?

:sarcasm:
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:46 PM
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7. From Oilempire.us site to the tune of CSNY's "Ohio"
Vote Fraud in Ohio


Lost ballots and Diebold's counting
We're finally on our own
This winter I hear Bush laughing
Vote Fraud in Ohio

Gotta get real ballots
Paperless taking us down
Should have been done long ago
Keep blacks from voting and
TV won't make a sound
Kerry won, but he said no.

Vote Fraud in Ohio
Vote Fraud in Florida
Vote Fraud in Nevada
Vote Fraud in Iowa
Vote Fraud New Mexico ...

http://www.oilempire.us/stolenelection2004.html
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:47 PM
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8. Thom Hartman also interviewed a college prof from OH
that discussed the discrepancies in depth. One key point was prop 1, the poll matched the actual vote almost exactly but all the other votes were 10-20pts off the mark. Hmmmm.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 06:50 PM
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10. Canvass...signed affidavits.....validate the results.
The only way to truely test if the State of Ohio is stealing democracy is to do an extensive analysis of selected precincts. I'd get the names of every voter in certain precints, canvass 100%, ask them to sign an affidavit as to who/what they voted for, and compare the results. Now maybe 100% of the Republican voters will say "none of your business"...but that still leaves 100% of the Democrats, Independents to confirm who/what they voted for. It's the only way we'l be able to know if there is some unexplainable anomoly happening in that State or whether there really is voter election fraud happening. Either way, it would settle the uncertainty.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 07:39 PM
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11. Maybe a grassroots petition to have the UN come in and monitor
our elections is not off the mark.
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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 07:57 PM
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12. FYI...
Blackwell forced international monitors to stay *away* from the polls in November of '04 in Ohio.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 09:47 PM
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14. I know. But a significant number of Americans asking for UN
monitoring may wake Senators like Dodd.
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