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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 01:36 PM
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"who ya gonna believe, me or your own eyes???"
ever hear of a guy named Speckhart? Mr. Speckhart should have his picture in the dictionary next to the phrase "lying sack of shit" ...

Mr. Speckhart is the head of the U.S. embassy's Iraq Reconstruction Management Office ... this office was supposed to be overseeing the repair of Iraq's infrastructure ... many Iraqis still don't have potable drinking water ... during last summer's 120 degree heat, many received only a few hours a day of electricity and had to survive with little or no air conditioning ... raw sewage is everywhere because the country's waste systems have been destroyed ...

billions of dollars of reconstruction funds have "gone missing" ... no accountability ... the UN recently said that Halliburton recently overcharged in the amount of $208 million and that the amount should be repaid ... and most of the funds are not going to Iraqi companies to help create jobs there but rather are padding the already bloated bottom lines of greedy US corporations ... and in an acknowledgment that NO MILITARY PROGRESS is being made against the insurgency, even Speckhart had to admit that as much as a quarter of funds for reconstruction are going to provide protection for American corporations while they rebuild ... should these funds really be coming out of the reconstruction budget? are they being paid to mercenaries and private security firms???

At a recent press conference with the Iraqis, Speckhart said much of the U.S.-funded work done was not visible enough. "I wish I had time to take you all on field trips," he told the reporters. He might as well have told them "who ya gonna believe, me or your own eyes???" ...

Mr. Speckhart believes the whole problem is just a public relations issue ... Mr. Speckhart also tried to blame the infrastructure problems on "30 years of decay and neglect" ... the truth is that most infrastructure problems were caused by US bombing during the invasion and by 10 years of US sanctions ... Mr. Speckhart apparently forgot to mention that ...


source: http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2005-11-13T171454Z_01_MOL358202_RTRUKOC_0_US-IRAQ-RECONSTRUCTION.xml

Iraqi perceptions that not enough is being done to rebuild the country after the U.S.-led invasion are simply a case of bad public relations, Washington's new reconstruction chief said on Sunday. <skip>

Speckhart said roughly half the electricity generation in Iraq now was the result of U.S.-funded projects; that 350 water and sewage treatment projects had been undertaken; and that 700 schools had been renovated.

In July a report by the U.S. Congress' investigative arm said that as of May 2005, power generation in Iraq was at a lower level than before the U.S. invasion of Iraq in March 2003. Many Iraqis spend whole evenings without power, and last summer, when temperatures rose above 120 degrees Fahrenheit (around 49 Celsius), families were making do with about eight hours of power a day, two hours on and then four off.

Iraq's oil output, which U.S. officials initially said would help pay for rebuilding projects, had also dropped in the past two years, the Government Accountability Office report said.

During the 2003 U.S.-led invasion, there was extensive damage to buildings, including the telecommunications system, bridges and other infrastructure, while electricity and oil installations suffered from a decade of international sanctions. <skip>

Speckhart said the problem was much of the U.S.-funded work done was not visible enough. "I wish I had time to take you all on field trips," he told the reporters. <skip>

A report by the U.S. special inspector general for Iraq reconstruction at the end of October said more than a quarter of all reconstruction funds had been spent on security costs to protect contractors, hundreds of whom have died in Iraq. That eats away at what ends up being spent on Iraq and Iraqis. <skip>

"Part of the challenge we have faced is we haven't advertised what we're doing in all these places," he said. Speckhart said reporters who questioned why so many contracts had gone to U.S. firms, such as Halliburton, a company once led by Vice President Dick Cheney, were misinformed. "It's not the case any more that there are just large international firms doing this," Speckhart said. "Iraqi firms are making the money."
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tofubo Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 01:47 PM
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1. from a post today on halo
BUSH, CHENEY, RUMSFELD, RICE, ROVE, LIBBY, DELAY, FRIST, BOLTON, ABRAMOFF, BROWN, CHESTOFF, MIER, SCHIVO, UNFULFILLED PROMISES, LIES, WMD, DSM, OIL/GAS PRICE GOUGING, ALASKA OIL DRILLING, NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND BUDGET, HEALTH CARE, SSI, IRAQ, AFGANISTAN, HALLIBURTON, ARNOLD, COIT TOWER, NRA, CRIME RATE, POLICE BRUTALITY, IMMIGRATION, LIFTING THE ENVIRONMENT PROTECTION POLICY, FEMA, CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE, NEW ORLEANS, GROUND ZERO, MISSISSIPPI, FLORIDA, ALABAMA, VOTING SYSTEM, INTEGRITY, CREDIBILITY, HONOR, REPUTATION, TORTURE, GUANTANAMO, 2000+ SOLDIERS DEAD THOUSANDS IRAQI CIVILIAN DEAD, TENS OF THOUSAND MORE WOUNDED AND PEMANENTLY DISABLED. KILLING AND THE CHRISTIAN BELIEFS, PRESS/MEDIA CONTROL, MILLIONS WITHOUT HEALTH INSURANCE, INJURED WORKERS ARE VICTIMS OF WORKERS COMP REFORMS, RISING COST OF LIVING, RISING POVERTY RATE, RISING CRIME RATES, RISING COST OF EDUCATION, BLUE COLLARD AND MANUFACTURING JOBS LOST. MISLEADING ADVERTISEMENTS, RISING DEBTS, TAX DEDUCTION FOR THE ALREADY OBSCENELY RICH. FAILING DILOMACY AND THE MARKET OF DIPLOMACY. ELECTION CORRUPTION, WHITE COLAR CRIMES, LOBBYIST BUYING AMERICA AND THE WHITE HOUSE. PUSHING FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY at any cost...EVILDOERS....STAYING THE COURSE....GETTING THE JOB DONE....IT IS A HARD JOB.

BUSH SHOWING FLIPPING his MIDDLE FINGER to a camera, CHENEY LYING ON NATIONAL TV, BARBARA BUSH degrading the poor, CONDI RICE shopping for ferragamo shoes and watching broadway shows and Bush campaigning, Cheney away from WH, Brown eating dinner, while New Orlean sinks underwater. Laura could call Katrina, Carina, BUSH twin 1 stick her tongue at a camera, Bush child gets busted for DUI, Bush continues more lies to hide past lies. Bush cronies in FOX channel 2, Bully O'rielly, PLAMEGATE, JOE WILSON, CINDY SHEENAN, FBI WHISTLEBLOWERS, CIA, HOMELAND SECURITY, ENRON, FAILING DEMOCRACY, SUCCESS OF CRONYISM, EMPERIALISN, CAPITALISM, HUMANISM. OZONE AND ENVIRONMENT. WARMACHINE, ARROGANT, ABUSE OF POWER, OVEREXTENDED SOLDIERS, FISCAL IRRESPONSIBILITY. BILLIONS INTO DEFICIT....

WHO fucked-UP AMERICA? Who helped fuck-up AMERICA? Who is helping to continue fucking-up AMERICA?
Anonymous | 11.13.05 - 1:40 pm | #
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 01:51 PM
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2. Iraqi firms are making the money for WHAT??
Product-wise that is. Do you suppose these Iraqi Businesses have Friends in the Insurgency, maybe a little?

Looks like Business to produce Dead Bodies to me.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 01:57 PM
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3. I really appreciate your issue oriented posting WT2
Thank you once again for all the work involved in putting them together. Too often serious discussion sinks like a stone on DU. Allow me to recommend this, lol.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 02:02 PM
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4. thank you, sir ...
Edited on Sun Nov-13-05 02:03 PM by welshTerrier2
you are among the posters I most respect on DU !!
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 03:23 PM
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10. Here, here! ....
I've said this to wT2 privately, but I would also like to propose it here, too. For those of us who are interested in "non-personality", topic-driven threads, I think we ought to choose a day of the week when we all talk about a subject, pre-selected a few days in advance so we can do some research, and have a sort topical symposium here. We can all make sure the thread stays kicked, and the discussion stays topic-driven, not personality- or name-driven.

wT2 is right when he says that we need to be concerned about how to mend this country, not just talk about who gets elected. It is imperiative, and I applaud him for his efforts. I, too will recommend this thread.

TC
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 02:21 PM
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5. Beside the 'torture' issue
this one gets me the most! The ten years of sanctions hurt the Iraqi people more than we will ever know. I believe that is behind the administrations desire to go after the oil for food program with both guns. So that they are able to take the spotlight off of the disservice those 'sanctions' put upon the Iraqi citizens. They want to make the UN the focus for lining So-damn-insane's coffers while the people went without medical care and food. Now the country continues to lie in ruins, the people suffer, get car-bombed daily, and have an occupied country. The combined oil profits from 5 oil companies for the last 92 days netted them 32.8 billion. That's 356 million per day. This is while the Iraqi people continue to live in squalor and poverty. As an aside the Iraqi sewage systems are not designed to handle toilet paper. This is partly why the streets run with sewage. And I suppose why they have separate bathrooms for Americans vs Iraqis. Oh, yeah since I can never contain my sarcasm and cynicism, it must be the liberal media's fault for not reporting all the good things we do over there.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 02:34 PM
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6. where are DU's hardcore candidate operatives ???
oh how i wish i could name names here ...

it's tragic that those who are the loudest have nothing to say in threads like these ... they don't give a damn about policy ... they never, or rarely anyway, show up to participate unless they think they can make points for their "loved one" ...

all they care about is winning; not making the country better ...

until the Democrats put issues ahead of politics, we ain't going nowhere ... that's my "sarcasm and cynicism" ...
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 02:54 PM
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8. Bravo!
I second that call for those posters to participate in such discussion!

Good thread WT.

Julie
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 02:59 PM
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9. thanks ...
Edited on Sun Nov-13-05 03:03 PM by welshTerrier2
i really appreciate that ...

their process is:

open thread, scan for candidate name ...

if not there, close thread ...

if there and poster is an ally, write "great post !!!" but don't add any text ...
if there and poster is an "enemy", choose from the following:
"circular firing squad, lefty freepers, bashing, why do the mods let Greens post here, accuse of wrong facts, blame the media" ... if all else fails, change the subject ...
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 05:47 PM
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16. BS has driven lots of folks away, WT2
Edited on Sun Nov-13-05 05:49 PM by omega minimo
Thank you for what you DU.
:applause:
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 08:25 PM
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23. thanks, o.m.
i wish we could make DU more effective on the issues ... i worry we're turning into a campaign cesspool and there aren't even any announced candidates yet ...

it's only going to get worse next year and beyond ...
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 09:21 PM
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24. Your method is best it can be
Putting issues and info/links up; engaging presentation (Doubleplusgood!!) and folks find you cuz your handle means integrity.

Maybe you can utilize the new Research forum for more effectiveness on the issues. Or that DU Act HQ thing.......

:patriot:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 05:14 PM
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14. horse shit
I post on stuff like this all the time and so do most people on DU. I can't figure out who you think is going to change policies except for those "loved ones" you hate so much.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 06:41 PM
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19. i see you decided not to discuss the reconstruction of Iraq
i'm not surprised ...
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 06:59 PM
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21. What's to discuss?
Bush contracted it out to his cronies and it's fucked up. There's no government oversight. They stole billions. Who doesn't know that? Is this news to you????
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Robert Cooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 07:03 PM
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22. uhm, neither did I, but...
I learn more by reading and figure another nodding head isn't required to validate the statements.

Your rant(?) raised valid issues unrelated to your topic, wT2. I had something to contribute. Next time I might not agree. Will I be less welcome then?
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Robert Cooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 06:57 PM
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20. Still new, but...
I'm noticing how issue-based entries are getting overlooked for the sake of adding to the bashing.

Obviously there is a lot of angst and a lot of release, but I agree that this forum has a potential for much more than what is currently in vogue.

I've found a few of my more thoughtful contributions seemed to end threads. I'd thought I was just arriving too late for anyone to notice, now I'm not so sure about that.

I've considered just hanging out in the Research group, but there are discussions on daily events where I can contribute from time to time.

Lest anyone think I'm engaging in DU-bashing, I'm not. There are good people here, and good issues raised. But sometimes it seems like too much fast-food and not enough real meat.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 03:31 PM
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12. I do think you are right about this....
Edited on Sun Nov-13-05 03:32 PM by Totally Committed
When you said: "The combined oil profits from 5 oil companies for the last 92 days netted them 32.8 billion. That's 356 million per day. This is while the Iraqi people continue to live in squalor and poverty." You were stating, I believe, the #1 reason the Iraquis want us gone.

It is an outrageous and disgraceful set of circumstances that the American people are barely (if at all) aware of.

TC

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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 02:50 PM
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7. They do love to mention schools a lot...
... don't they? Too dangerous to get to school in a lot of places, there were reports a year ago that the schools which were rehabbed were in some ways worse than before--slap-dash work, plumbing not working, trash and unexploded munitions in the playgrounds, no educational furniture, etc.

But, they were rebuilt. Yeah, right.

Great line, though--"I wish I had time to take you all on field trips." Time isn't the problem. It's getting there in one piece and that knucklehead knows it.

But, like every good Bush party member, this bozo thinks that better PR solves the problem. :eyes:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 03:29 PM
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11. "We'll fix it in Marketing"..
It's ALWAYS a PR thing with these guys. The entire administration has only two funcioning departments, PR and Disbursements (but only to big friends like Halliburton, etc).
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 03:38 PM
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13. This is the same Administration that was all over the UN about
graft concerning the Iraq Food for Oil program. This is the same administration that said the UN had no capacity for oversight, and allowed money to go missing without accountability.

Meanwhile on another track I believe I read that the No Bid contracts in New Orleans that were given to companies like Haliburton, that were now going to be put up for competitive bidding instead, are virtually completed. The money got spent before anyone else had a chance to bid. But this Administration still got to trot out their "We're so sorry Uncle Albert" reformist spin; "See, the problem is fixed".

So it isn't the case "any more" that just large international firms are profiting from Iraq. The time finally came for a few trickle down crumbs to reach a few well connected Iraq firms as window dressing, if we are to believe him. Iraq, New Orleans, same difference. Where there is money to be made paid for by American Taxpayers, Haliburton and friends are at the front of the line.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 05:58 PM
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17. This is the same Administration that
was installed by the Supreme Court.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 05:30 PM
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15. So, the war IS a success! Just not for the rest of us.
let it be known: Jr didn't f* up this one. They got exactly what they set up to get: bleed a country dry. Two, if you think of it.
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 06:03 PM
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18. Just like the man who said that in "Chicago" ... he deserves to be
called on it!
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 09:46 PM
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25. A correction
I think:

Mr. Speckhart also tried to blame the infrastructure problems on "30 years of decay and neglect" ...

This isn't Speckhart's original thought, this is junk I've heard the PNACers say here and there on TV at various times. It's especially hilarious I think when they trot it out to excuse the lack of electricity.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 09:54 PM
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26. maybe not original but he did say it ...
here's the quote from the article cited in the OP:

"This is a big challenge. There's been more than 30 years of decay and neglect that has run down the infrastructure tremendously," Speckhart said, adding that demand for electricity was also rising as Iraqis buy more fridges, air conditioners and other appliances previously in short supply."

btw, did you derive your username from the movie "Stripes" with Bill Murray ?? ... i've been wondering ...
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