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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:28 AM
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Party Leaders Express Relief at the Emergence of DLCer Kerry
MANCHESTER, N.H., Jan. 28 — Democratic leaders expressed relief Wednesday at the emergence of John Kerry as the leader of the party's presidential field, after his twin victories over Howard Dean. But they voiced concern about the potential electoral liabilities of Mr. Kerry, a candidate who remains unknown in much of the country.

In the interviews, party leaders described the Democratic nomination battle as hardly decided, even after Mr. Kerry decisively defeated Dr. Dean here and in Iowa. While many said Dr. Dean's hopes had been seriously diminished by the losses, they noted Mr. Kerry's own difficulties as a candidate this year, and said Senator John Edwards of North Carolina remained in a strong position to step in should Mr. Kerry falter again, particularly as the race moves south.

Still, the evident relief among some Democratic leaders was testimony to their concern about what had once seemed the near-inevitability that Dr. Dean would be the party's standard-bearer in November. That concern had markedly grown in recent days, after his third-place finish in Iowa and the raucous concession speech he delivered that night.

"To the extent to which there is an establishment, it wants what the Democratic primary voters want: the strongest candidate in the fall," said Senator Evan Bayh of Indiana. "I think the consensus is that John will be a more formidable candidate than Howard."

more: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/29/politics/campaign/29CAMP.html
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:31 AM
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1. Why should we trust..
that the DLC knows what the country wants? They've been wrong too many times now.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:34 AM
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4. They were right in 1992 and 1996
:)
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:33 AM
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2. The term "DLCer" appears nowhere in the title of the article
but - hey - so what?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:35 AM
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6. People need to get used to the fact
that the likely nominee is a New Democrat.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:39 AM
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9. I thought it was against the rules to change the title of a posted
article? :shrug:
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:43 AM
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11. That's LBN
This is GD2004.

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WiseMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:34 AM
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3. Why DCLer Nonsense. DLC rejected Kerry as too liberal, backed Clark /Dean
Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 09:34 AM by WiseMen

Kerry was always viewed as having too liberal a record and too controversial a past to win the critical moderate center of the electorate. Kerry is also regarded as somewhat
stand-offish from mainstream DLC activities.

That Kerry was written off is clear from the financing picture: All the Non-Dean money was going to Clark and to a lesser degree Edwards.

Kerry was cut-off. He wasn't getting any money at all. He had to refinance his home to continue.

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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:48 AM
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13. Kerry is backed by plenty of New Democrats
He has been endorsed by Dianne Feinstein, Juanita Millender-McDonald, Jennifer Granholm, Carolyn McCarthy, Gregory Meeks, Earl Blumenauer, Harold Ford Jr, and Adam Smith. They are all New Democrats. If you don not belive me, just do a search on the DLC's website:

http://www.ndol.org/new_dem_dir.cfm
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 10:43 AM
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18. DLC Shifts Behind The Scenes To Kerry Camp (Thursday, July 31, 2003)
Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 10:43 AM by w4rma
PHILADELPHIA. — The Democrats' presidential primary war between diehard liberal activists and pragmatic party centrists intensified this week at the Democratic Leadership Council's meeting here.

Democratic pollster Mark Penn, who polled for Bill Clinton, warned of a huge "security gap" among voters who trust President Bush and the GOP to do a better job than the Democrats to safeguard national security in the war on terrorism. "If Democrats can't close the security gap, then they can't be competitive in the next election," he said.

All of them warned that the party would lose next year's elections if it did not match the president's toughness on national defense.

The big unreported story at the DLC's meeting is that Mr. From is positioning his influential DLC network to back Mr. Dean's chief rival for the presidential nomination, Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry.

Mr. Kerry voted for the congressional war resolution to send forces into Iraq, but he has also been sharply critical of Mr. Bush's failure to build a much stronger coalition for the war and for his handling of postwar operations.

Still, Mr. From points to Mr. Kerry's centrism on issues such as free trade, his support for welfare reform, and hints that school choice vouchers may be worth trying on an experimental basis.

"I think Kerry could be a very effective nominee. I think Kerry could run as a New Democrat ," Mr. From told me in an interview.

The DLC does not endorse candidates, but Will Marshall, who runs the DLC's Progressive Policy Institute, has been advising Mr. Kerry. And Al From's embrace of Mr. Kerry is the closest he has come to publicly backing a candidate. Notably, he mentioned no one else in the Democratic pack.

What worries Mr. From most is the party's weakness on defense in an age of terrorism. "The problem with is that we're not in the debate on national security," he said.

But grass-roots Democrats say the party's energy and anger right now is all on the antiwar, activist left which is fueling Mr. Dean's headlong drive for the nomination. The DLC had its day with Bill Clinton's skillful political use of centrist-leaning triangulation. Now, say Mr. Dean's supporters, "it's our turn."

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Before you get your panties in a bunch, here is some info to show that Kerry is anything but a centrist, anything but a corporate hooker. The DLC comes to Kerry on policy, not the other way around.

Here is a link to a favorable DLC article about Kerry's progressive, corporate crime-fighting economic plan:

"Kerry's long-term growth plan focused on measures that simultaneously promote fiscal discipline while encouraging the right kind of economic activity. He called for the elimination of "offshore tax havens and shelters that enable corporations and executives to evade an estimated $70 billion in taxes each year," and also recommitted himself to the legislation (itself based on a Progressive Policy Institute proposal) he earlier offered with Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) to eliminate corporate subsidies in the tax code and the budget through a "base-closing commission" model.

Interestingly enough, Kerry called for elimination of a specific federal program -- the Fossil Energy Research and Development program that provides R&D for oil companies -- as part of an assault on corporate subsidies. Kerry is keeping the ball rolling in a new competition among leading Democrats to make hard choices about federal spending."

http://www.johnkerry.com/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=6144&security=1&news_iv_ctrl=-1
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=108&topic_id=9699

"In the December 23, 2003 issue of the L.A. Times, Al From, of the Democratic Leadership Council asked, "Why is Howard Dean running away from Bill Clinton?" adding, "That's no way to build on the progress of the most successful Democratic president of our time."
http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/12/con03388.html

DLC lines up against Dean's re-regulation remarks

Gov. Howard Dean delivered a good speech on "Enron Economics" in Houston Tuesday. It echoed Sen. John Edwards' lines about the Bush administration's determination to shift the tax burden from wealth to work, and earlier speeches by Sen. Joe Lieberman and others on the importance of corporate responsibility. It even appropriated a concept championed by the DLC, and endorsed by President Clinton, that we need a "new social contract for the 21st century, based on shared responsibility and our country's deepest values," to guide economic policy. The speech had us hoping that Gov. Dean might take to heart the challenge from Sens. John Kerry and John Edwards to offer America answers, not just anger.

Unfortunately, in an interview with a small group of reporters, Gov. Dean suggested that his answers might be a lot like his anger -- driven more by reflexive opposition to Bush than by a well thought-out effort to solve America's problems. According to Jim VandeHei of the Washington Post, Dean said the answer to the corporate excesses of recent years was "a comprehensive 're-regulation' of American business."

"The former Vermont Governor," reported VandeHei, "said he would reverse the trend toward deregulation pursued by recent presidents -- including, in some respects, Bill Clinton -- to help restore faith in scandal-plagued U.S. corporations and better protect U.S. workers." Dean also "listed likely targets for what he dubbed as his 're-regulation' campaign: utilities, large media companies, and any business that offers stock options. Dean did not rule out 're-regulating' the telecommunications industry, too."
http://www.ndol.org/ndol_ci.cfm?kaid=131&subid=192&contentid=252220
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=108&topic_id=88535
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:35 AM
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5. Deja vu all over again
We are going to see a repeat of 2002.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:57 AM
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16. Or perhaps a repeat of 1992 and 1996
;)
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:36 AM
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7. another misleading headline
its getting pravada-like around here.
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Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:37 AM
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8. Please give a source or proof of what you say
This DLC Person, is doing everything he can to see Clark and or Dean out does Kerry. Or is it just bias against the DLC? Prejudice against a group of people really suck!
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:56 AM
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15. I am not biased against the DLC, but
I get the impression that some DUers are. I think that once they recieve the necessary information they will relieve that he are not as evil as they think.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:41 AM
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10. Uhhhh... Kerry is not a DLC candidate
He's not even a member of the DLC! Dean is/was though.
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eileen_d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:47 AM
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12. "DLC" has no meaning on DU
It's got about as much meaning as the word "fuck" in a David Mamet play. (i.e. none)
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:53 AM
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14. Check the DLC's website
http://www.ndol.org/new_dem_dir.cfm

He is a member of the Senate New Democrat Coalition, which was founded by Senators Evan Bayh (IN), Bob Graham (FL), Mary Landrieu (LA), Joe Lieberman (CT) and Blanche Lincoln (AR).

http://www.ndol.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=250061&kaid=103&subid=111
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 10:11 AM
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17. DLC | New Dem Daily - "Another Vote for Hope Over Anger"
For the second week in a row, rank-and-file Democrats have spoken loud and clear: The Democratic Party is moderate, middle-class, and motivated by hope, not anger. Sen. John Kerry firmly established himself as the big comeback story of the nominating process.

..

And as in Iowa, it appears the key to Kerry's success was his willingness, day after day and night after night, to stand before some of the country's most discriminating voters and answer their questions on a host of international and domestic issues.


Nope, they don't like Kerry at all.

http://www.ndol.org/ndol_ci.cfm?kaid=131&subid=192&contentid=252351
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