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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 12:42 AM
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Golden (state) opportunity to kick Schwarzenegger in the butt, and hard.
Please, everyone in California who reads this, get out and vote NO on 74, 75, 76 and 77. If all 4 lose, Schwarzenegger loses all clout and is consigned to the dustbin of political trivia history, and is forced to going back to making insipid action movies to support his ego and cigar habit. Bug everyone you know to get out Tuesday and vote NO on these 4 propositions, no matter what they vote on anything else. Thank you for your help and start calling people!
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 12:44 AM
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Vote NO on everything. Send them a message that we reject
this special election in any shape or form.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 01:08 AM
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7. Vote YES on 79 definitely. Vote Yes on 80 if you want to.
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 12:44 AM
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1. 73 Too
It's an awful, awful proposition. Arnold has come out in favor. So basically if Arnold wants it, its bad.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 12:47 AM
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3. At my Mom's church (Catholic) they passed out special flyers last Sunday,
urging people to vote yes on 73. So I assumed it's another "religious right" initiative.
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 12:52 AM
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5. Yeah
Arnold endorsed it to get the religious right out to vote and then to vote on his initiatives. He's a tool and I hate him
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 12:47 AM
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2. 73 also n/t
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 12:49 AM
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4. the redistricting one seems ok....
it's just that this is a state where the Democrats will lose seats when the corrections come through. This gerrymandering helps who every leads in the state legislature.

Isn't it the same as the one we are rooting for in Ohio?

How about some consistency here folks.

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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 12:53 AM
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6. I for one do not want to see
Edited on Fri Nov-04-05 12:58 AM by GRLMGC
CA as a red state.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 01:16 AM
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8. uh, yeah.... WHY would you support Arnie's version of
GERRYMANDERING? They have been working their way from the school boards up here as well. It is soooo much easier w/ the right judge (w/ the right$$$) to create boundaries. They will never face the will of the voters of CA.


PU-LEEEASE
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 01:22 AM
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10. Vote No! It would allow Arnold to gerrymander California!
Edited on Fri Nov-04-05 01:22 AM by Democat
Vote no on Republican gerrymandering of a Democratic state!

Do not be fooled by Republican lies!
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 01:33 AM
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11. No. The redistricting one is not OK.
Imagine this state being chopped up by three judges all of whom were appointed to the judiciary by partisan politicians. A disaster, that is what it will be.

Prop. 77 is not OK. If our state is to be chopped up by judges, let's make sure there are more than three. Three judges could too easily be corrupted, and what if one does not participate. Judges are appointed by the governor or elected through a political process. They tend to be partisan. Just because they are judges does not mean they are neutral politically.

Also, under this proposition, Schwarzenegger decides the rules the judges are to follow in chopping up the state. Besides, why should we re-gerrymander our state now halfway between censuses when we have an orderly procedure for doing it every ten years and just did it after the 2000 census? Vote NO on Propositions 73-78 including Proposition 77.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 01:35 AM
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12. Statistically, 50% of 3-judge panels would be all or majority Repub, while
Republs only get about 40% of the citizens' support.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 01:36 AM
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13. Furthermore, retirement-aged judges were appointed by Reagan, Wilson
and other Republicans.

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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 01:50 AM
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15. no, it is not - it is crap
we deserve a equitable re-districting plan - 77 ain't it!


NO ON 73!
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twin_peaks_nikki Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 01:21 AM
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9. Just say no to Arnold 74, 75, 76,77
Can't wait to vote this goon out. Warren Beatty is doing radio spots against the props...could it be...

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Bluestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 01:48 AM
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14. I'm in Orange County and I got polled tonight
I got one of those 45 second voice recognition polls from the right-wing tonight. They are apparently polling their base (I live in the OC), but they got more than they bargained for with my answers. Very weird poll--only questions about 2 of the initiatives--the abortion notification and the one about preventing unions from using union dues for political purposes. They asked me did I like Arnold? No. Did I like McClintock (Lt Gov for 2006) No. Was I a Republican? No. Was I a man? No. Was I younger than 50? No. Just no, no, no, on every question except one. Was I pro-life or pro-choice? PRO-CHOICE.

I get these polls all the time because I live in the hotbed of Fundie madness. I just love to skew (or maybe screw) their numbers. Anybody else get a call?
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 01:53 AM
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16. nope - in OC as well but no call
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 03:20 AM
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17. I'm in Orange. No call here
BTW, I met Steve Young, the Dem candidate for Cox's seat. He attended our Code Pink protest at the Orange Plaza last Wednesday night. He is really convinced he can win it. He says Gilchrist will split the vote. I hope he's right.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 04:27 AM
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18. I second that motion...
Edited on Fri Nov-04-05 04:29 AM by AntiFascist
<--- Here's his butt!
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 08:28 AM
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19. AMEN! and recommended. GET THE GROPER!
:kick:
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