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plurality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:14 AM
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Poll question: Dean supporters only, who would you support if Dean drops out?
Just checking here.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:15 AM
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1. ABB all the way - ABB
I'll support who Dean supports first and foremost (which hopefully will still be Dean).

However, when the nomination is picked - I'm ABB all the way and I have a strong suspicion that Dean will be too!!!
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plurality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:17 AM
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3. but do you have a prefered secind choice?
Say it goes to the convention before someone has enough delegates, so you have to vote in your primary and Dean has dropped out without endorsing someone, who would be choice number 2 for you?
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:17 AM
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2. You are rushing things too much
People need time to grieve and reassess when and if that happens. If folks here on anyone's bandwagon want their support after a candidate backs out they should give them a little breathing room.

You don't ask someone what qualities they would like in a second spouse while they are still married to the first.
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plurality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:19 AM
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5. you're right I guess it is kind of rubbing salt in a wound.
Plus I don't think he's going to drop out anytime real soon, I just had this nagging question that I had to ask. I guess I should have wondered if it might rub the wrong way.

So to anyone about to flame me for this, sorry, not trying to gloat or anything.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:19 AM
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4. Nobody until at least July (n/t)
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:20 AM
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6. Kucinich/Edwards tie. I CANNOT Vote for Skull or Stephens Group
As a saeasoned political researcher and historian I cannot support either Kerry or Clark who are completely plugged into the BFEE imperial criminality.
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:35 AM
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7. i will support
any of the listed candidates if they win, except for Rev. Sharpton.

I dont think any ordained minister/rabbi/priest/etc should hold public office. too close to violating the first amendment, in regards to establishing a state religion.

peace
david
:hippie:
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:37 AM
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8. I see the Clark supporters have found this poll
ROFLMAO!
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:30 AM
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24. Oh, are they the twenty or so folks that'll help Bush get
reelected by voting third party or staying home?

I cannot believe that many real Dean supporters would do something like that.

Of course it is better to support Clark, or even Kerry, than let the chance go by to get BushCo out of power.
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auntpattywatty Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:42 AM
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9. As a nation, we are going to be in a heap of trouble if we don't have Dean
as President
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:44 AM
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10. i'm voting for
FUCK THIS GLOATING, CREPE HANGING BULLSHIT
goin to make myself a tinfoil hat
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:50 AM
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11. Whoever the 5 people are who voted and said
Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 08:50 AM by pjeffrey4444
they would stay at home should be ashamed of themselves. And I'm a Dean supporter.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:53 AM
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12. Ya' Gotta Love those 3rd Party Sentiments! ?
:shrug: OTHERS from OTHER campaigns didn't blow all the money:shrug:

We didn't fire Trippi:hi:

Please don't become what SOME (not all) Predicted you'd become


G.G.:smoke:
:hangover:
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:03 AM
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14. We are on an anonymous chat board
Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 09:05 AM by NNN0LHI
No way of knowing who the people who say they would help elect Bush by supporting a third party candidate or by staying home really support. They could be Bush supporters for all we know. I would not automatically blame Dean supporters.

Don

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PAMod Donating Member (651 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:58 AM
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13. If Dean drops out, wake me when the convention is over.
I'll enthusiastically support whomever the nominee is, but until then, no reason for me (and many others I would imagine) to get into it. What difference does it make if we nominate Kerry or Edwards, or Lieberman or Clinton? Still, I will be energized by the goal of re-defeating Bush and -- let's be honest -- any of our candidates is an improvement on what is in there now, so count me in.

That said,

We've got big problems as a party, folks, and this year hasn't done much to foster unity, I'm afraid. For one thing, we seem to have a dearth of leadership. If you doubt it, look at all the people who pushed General Clark into the race. Is our party that bereft that we have to yank an erstwhile non-partisan into the top of our party? Apparently millions think so! (That was not meant as a slam on Clark - he is an outstanding American and would be a great President, I'm sure.) I find it troubling, however, that it would ever come to this.

Additionally, there remain troublesome splits on a number of fronts (geography, insider/outsider, IWR, tax policy, others) and I'm not certain any candidate unite us in spite of it all, but I think Dean has (had?) the best chance. Love him or hate him (apparently there are few undecided) he is a breath of fresh air, reminding many of us how exciting hope can be.

While I'm grumbling, the Democratic insiders & regulars have become obsessed with the so-called swing voters "what can we be for, that will appeal to THEM? - who can we nominate that will not repulse THEM?". While useful in the past, to elect Clinton & Gore for example, it has had a terrible effect on the rest of the ticket in presidential & mid-term years, not to mention the confusion to the actual members of the party. Many of us are wondering what it means to be a Democrat. This does not bode well for '04 and beyond. I'm only 37; I got a lot of elections left in me. It pains me to think that it won't matter.

If this offends, please disregard, I'm feeling crabby lately.

BTW, I hope I am wrong about all of this. I would love to be wrong about this.
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plurality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:05 AM
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16. why not Kucinich?
does he not represent a change from what's wrong with all the insiders? yes i know he's 'unelectable' but if it's going to be one of the insiders, why not at least go to Kucinich so that those insiders will have to take note that they need to change their ways, because the people who want change aren't going to just go away.
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PAMod Donating Member (651 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:10 AM
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17. Why not you?
I might as well support you. I'm sure we agree on most things. Or if you aren't yet 35, why don't you support me? A write-in campaign!

Listen, DK is a great American and an important member of our side. He seems to lack the leadership thing. That's a real problem - maybe it's unfair, but it is real.

It's not enough to be right, plurality - our candidate has to be able to LEAD.
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plurality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:15 AM
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20. I think you underestimate DK's ability to lead
Let us not forget that he LED the Dems in Congress against the IWR. Before he began organizing there were only 16 Dems planning on voting against that resolution, and he LED 123 of them to vote against it. I'd say that right there is a good show of leadership.
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PAMod Donating Member (651 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:59 AM
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26. Yea, we do owe props to DK for that. eom
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:04 AM
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15. No one
I'm discouraged as hell.

A tiny number of Democrats in Iowa and Hew Hampshire (a sliver of the population of the nation), plus some Independents and Republicans and the media have chosen the apparent nominee. That nominee is in the process of writing off the entire region of the country where I live. What say do I have in it? Almost none.

In the general election I can vote (or not) for anyone I want, because my state will go for Bush anyway.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:12 AM
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18. Hmmm...34% will not vote for the Dem....interesting....
I should have saved my thread from about 8 months ago where I said I was worried that a nice sized chunk of the Dean supporters were Dean or Nobody or were Dean or Green. I was summarily flamed and insulted and told to "PROVE IT!!! PROVE IT!!!!!" and told that Dean supporters were Democrats first and foremost.

I realize this isn't a scientific poll, nor is it ALL Dean supporters. But considering how much of a new A-hole I had torn for me that day because of that one post, 34% doesn't exactly prove me wrong.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:15 AM
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19. It may not prove you were wrong, but it don't prove you were right either
Really it don't prove nothing.

Don

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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:18 AM
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21. We shall see I guess.......
....Only time will tell if people who talk on here REALLY want bush out of office or if they just REALLY want their candidate in.
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:19 AM
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22. Can the third party folks explain how one goes from
supporting a centrist, insider Democrat to, say, the Greeens?

I starting to get the depressing feeling that the Dean campaign was based more on psychology than policy.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:25 AM
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23. ABBOC
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:38 AM
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25. None of the above. By the time PA's primary comes along
It will be over.

If Dean is still on the ballot, I will vote for him.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 10:01 AM
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27. ABK
Clark or Edwards would be possible.
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 10:04 AM
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28. We have no way of knowing those 3rd party votes are genuine
They could EASILY be from Kerry or Clark supporters with a bone to pick.

This poll is meaningless.
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