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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 01:32 AM
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Just a reminder re: Kerry and the DSM and investigations and such
From Randi Rhodes forum (I wanted the Raw Story link but their site ate it. But Randi's cool too)

The point of his letter may seem familiar to those who have been paying attention to "Give em Hell" Harry Reid today.

I have seen some call for Kerry to jump on Harry's bandwagon. I do believe he's there already, actually.

http://forums.therandirhodesshow.com/lofiversion/index.php/t56326.html

June 22, 2005

The Honorable Pat Roberts, Chairman
The Honorable John D. Rockefeller, IV, Vice Chairman United States Senate
Select Committee on Intelligence
SH-211
Washington, DC 20510

Dear Senator Roberts and Senator Rockefeller:

We write concerning your committee's vital examination of pre-war Iraq intelligence failures. In particular, we urge you to accelerate to completion the work of the so-called "Phase II" effort to assess how policy makers used the intelligence they received.

Last year your committee completed the first phase of a two-phased effort to review the pre-war intelligence on Iraq. Phase I-begun in the summer of 2003 and completed in the summer of 2004-examined the performance of the American intelligence community in the collection and analysis of intelligence prior to the war, including an examination of the quantity and quality of U.S. intelligence on Iraqi weapons of mass destruction and the intelligence on ties between Saddam Hussein's regime and terrorist groups. At the conclusion of Phase I, your committee issued an unclassified report that made an important contribution to the American public's understanding of the issues involved.

In February 2004-well over a year ago-the committee agreed to expand the scope of inquiry to include a second phase which would examine the use of intelligence by policy makers, the comparison of pre-war assessments and post-war findings, the activities of the Policy Counterterrorism Evaluation Group (PCTEG) and the Office of Special Plans in the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy, and the use of information provided by the Iraqi National Congress.

The committee's efforts have taken on renewed urgency given recent revelations in the United Kingdom regarding the apparent minutes of a July 23, 2002, meeting between Prime Minister Tony Blair and his senior national security advisors. These minutes-known as the "Downing Street Memo"-raise troubling questions about the use of intelligence by American policy makers-questions that your committee is uniquely situated to address.

The memo indicates that in the summer of 2002, at a time the White House was promising Congress and the American people that war would be their last resort, that they believed military action against Iraq was "inevitable."

The minutes reveal that President "Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy."

The American people took the warnings that the administration sounded seriously-warnings that were echoed at the United Nations and here in Congress as we voted to give the president the authority to go to war. For the sake of our democracy and our future national security, the public must know whether such warnings were driven by facts and responsible intelligence, or by political calculation.

These issues need to be addressed with urgency. This remains a dangerous world, with American forces engaged in Iraq and Afghanistan, and other challenges looming in Iran and North Korea. In this environment, the American public should have the highest confidence that policy makers are using intelligence objectively-never manipulating it to justify war, but always to protect the United States. The contents of the Downing Street Memo undermine this faith and only rigorous Congressional oversight can determine the truth.

We urge the committee to complete the second phase of its investigation with the maximum speed and transparency possible, producing, as it did at the end of Phase I, a comprehensive, unclassified report from which the American people can benefit directly.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 01:34 AM
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1. I remember reading this as well, I do agree with you.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 01:40 AM
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2. Kerry's early calls for DSM investigations confirm this...
Edited on Wed Nov-02-05 01:41 AM by Dr Fate
...we all read about it here on DU back when it happened...
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 09:44 AM
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8. Per your many calls that Kerry and all get on the media
I think you are right that our voices are not being heard and beyond that the people who should be the even handed moderators are still sprouting RW lies.

At least two of the pseudo news people (Imus and Matthews) today and yesterday said point blank in near identical words that top Democrats like Kerry and Schumer, Cinton still stand by their IWR votes. Absolutely ignoring Kerry's Iraq speech.

This is sick - Kerry as an unknown, articulate, decorated war veteran was covered by every network and many newspapers. Kerry, who won the Democratic nomination last year who is a sitting Senator - received incredibly little coverage and is being lied about. (As one who has made the distinction between being wrong and lying - I am intentionally using the word lie.) (In Imus's case he has to know Kerry spoke on Iraq because yesterday, McCain commented that he dsagreed with Kerry's call to withdraw - which was not accurate either.)

The near identical phrasing is a clue that these are RW talking points. Note, would you pick "Schumer" in the list of top Dems - Kerry and Clinton could be a coincidence, but for both people to include Schumer is less likely. It's ironic that at a time that some of the press (NYT, WP,LA Times and BG) have editorials that say Libby's coverup suceeded (Bush got elected)and that the press shared some blame, they are more blatant than ever in their bias.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 09:55 AM
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10. Read Scheer editorial yesterday - they put it clearly
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/110105B.shtml

What Judy Forgot: Your Right to Know

...

The 1st Amendment protection is not a license for mischief on the part of journalists eager to do the government's bidding. To the contrary, it was conceived by the founders to prevent government from subverting the free press in an effort to misinform the public. Unfortunately, that is precisely what occurred here.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 01:54 AM
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3. Thanks for posting this! I'm all for giving credit where credit is due!
John kerry takes a lot of abuse in a couple of forums here at the DU, and it is usually unwarranted. He has been out in front on this issue and he deserve some respect and credit for his foresight. This is all coming together and it appears that this has all been planned well.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 02:24 AM
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4. Let's face it, he will continue to take abuse. But still
credit where credit is due.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 02:45 AM
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5. Kerry's Statement today included a link to the letters -
Unfortunately not everyone who got the press release picked up on that and some folks posted the statement around without the link to the letters - which is a key point about what happened today. Also key in what happened with Reid today, I feel was Kerry's Iraq speech at Georgetown U last week.

If anything, what happened today was Harry Reid finally got Kerry's back on this. Kerry has been vocal for sometime now - but ultimately it took the Senate Minority leader to make a stand.

Kerry's statement today on Reid's move to close down the Senate and links to the letters to and from Roberts on the DSM, as per his press release, are here - http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=1021

Kerry's DSM letter is here - http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?page_id=1022 (I've kept a copy online of it as I was one of the original bloggers it was released to from Kerry's office.)

Kerry's Iraq speech at Georgetown U - http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=952
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 09:20 AM
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7. Roberts made clear in his response to Kerry there was "no evidence...
I repeat, "no evidence this was the result of political pressure."

Dear Senator Kerry:

Thank you for your interest in the Committee's continuing review of Iraq intelligence. As I am sure you have read our reports on the U.S. Intelligence Community's prewar intelligence assessments about Iraq, you know that the Committee unanimously concluded that the Intelligence Community did mischaracterize and, in some cases, exaggerate, intelligence on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction capabnilities, but that there was no evidence this was the results of political pressure. Intellience analysts from the lowest to the highest levels of the Community told our Committee that their judgements were based solely on their own analysis, not the desires of policymakers.

http://www.kerry.senate.gov/v3/headlines/pdf/Roberts_to_Kerry_Response.pdf

The underlined "no" is Roberts, not mine. It is obvious to anyone reading this letter he wrote to Senator Kerry that Roberts had already made up his mind regarding any involvement of the administration in the faulty intelligence.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 09:54 AM
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9. Roberts believes DSM is no evidence then he won't be adverse to examining
it further for the public, will he?
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-05 08:37 AM
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6. Also, Sen. Feinstein has a letter on her Senate.gov site
calling on the Senate Select Committee to investigate the whole damn IRaq screwup, from soup to nuts.

I am so happy to see the Dems stand up today and demand that the Repubs do their jobs and conduct oversight hearings. I have heard many Dem members of Congress ask for this, including Sen. Kerry on numerous occasions this year alone. Good for him, good for Harry Reid and for every other Dem who is standing up and demanding that the Congress do it's job.
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