Want to be forced to get a vaccine and unable to sue if it harms you?

[grace0418]

Basically Congress is going to vote to allow forced vaccinations AND take away citizens' right to sue should that MANDATORY vaccine cause them harm. It's being called "a drug company stockholder's dream and a consumer's worst nightmare."

Here is more information: http://www.nvic.org/PressReleases/101905Burrbill.htm

Here is where you can take action:
http://www.nvic.org/ActionAlerts/S1873.htm

-snip-
"It means that, if an American is injured by an experimental flu or anthrax vaccine he or she is mandated to take, that citizen will be banned from exercising the Constitutional right to a jury trial even if it is revealed that the vaccine maker engaged in criminal fraud and negligence in the manufacture of the vaccine."

[MojoXN]

1. Nice Rebus!

[grace0418]

5. Thanks!

I sell it on a t-shirt, bumper sticker, etc. if you're interested. Just follow the link in my sig.

But anyway, thanks for the compliment!

[havocmom]

2. In the early days of the malAdministration there were a few comments

from DOD that they were trying to find a way to use meds that would tranquilize mass urban populations, which would help our troops in the event of a needed occupation. The news reports did not play long at all on this subject. Hmmm, wonder why.

Anybody trying to force me to take a vaccine mandated by THIS government will have to give it to my corpse, seriously.

[IChing]

3. nominated important n/t

[grace0418]

6. I agree. Anyone else want to nominate this?

I think it needs to be seen by all DUers.

[whatever4]

4. Figures

Between that and the Patriot Act, I just don't know what to be mad about anymore.

We elect these people. They're supposed to be smarter than we are. So how come they never are, without apology?

[ComerPerro]

7. Mandatory vaccinations, but no health care

So, for some Americans, the only time they will even be able to see someone remotely resembling a physician will be when they go to get their mandatory shot.

"Can you check out my chest? I am having trouble breathing"

"NEXT!"

[grace0418]

14. Because it's not about health, it's about control.

That's what's so scary about it.

[ComerPerro]

34. I know, but sometimes the irony that is created by their arrogance

just astounds me.

"If we are an arrogant nation..." said Governor Bush, the candidate.

"If you aren't with us, then you're against us" said President Bush, the power-tripping shithead.

EDIT: actually, wait. Not irony.

Wait...

What's that word, that's like irony but is more deliberate and more sinister?

Oh yeah! Hypocrisy!

[Stephanie]

8. They are doing a trial-run mass-innoculation today in NYC

They are offering free flu shots in an auditorium on 17th @ 8th to test the emergency innoculation system. It's already happening.

[grace0418]

9. That's bad, but MANDATORY? That's even worse. n/t

[Theres-a]

10. Forced?

That makes all the difference.

[Stephanie]

11. Of course not forced

This one's just practice.

[Nikki Stone 1]

12. They've been working on this for a long time

Rumsfeld will be making money....

[grace0418]

17. That's just the problem. BushCo perpetrates so many

crimes against the American people that it's impossible to keep track of them all.

[Walt Starr]

13. If it's forced, then I refuse

Sorry, nope, you're not injecting MY body with your bullshit!

Want to make me, better bring guns!

[bee]

31. ditto. fuck that noise. mandatory injections? not me. not ever.

adding :

"the legislation will eliminate both regulatory and legal safeguards applied to vaccines as well as take away the right of children and adults harmed by vaccines and drugs to present their case in front of a jury in a civil court of law."

Are you SHITTING me??? :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

[Little Star]

62. Ditto. When pigs fly!

I don't do mandatory when it comes to my body. I am pro choice when it comes to ones body.

[grace0418]

15. One more nomination anyone?

I want people to see this. Thanks!

[Walt Starr]

18. Done

:)

[grace0418]

19. Thanks very much! n/t

[indepat]

16. Corporatism at work in Amerika

[Overseas]

63. By now we all know Rumsfeld has stock in the Tamiflu company but

did you also know another business coup of his? He was head of GD Searle when aspartame was pushed through the FDA approval process in spite of its prior denials. Rummy got it through ! What a legacy, eh? Aspartame bonanza, war profiteering, Tamiflu bonanza ! Golly, Grandpa, you're something else .

[preciousdove]

20. Answer to: How do we get rid of the undesirables without an Auschwitz? n/t

[Kailassa]

21. One of the biggest problems in the holocaust was ...

how to get rid of all the bodies.

Buschco have the answer to that down pat.
Leave them to rot.

[truebrit71]

24. ...you forgot...."in New Orleans"...

...looks to me like they've no inkling to clean N.O. up, great place to dump a boatload of dead bodies...

[AllyCat]

38. And then make the levees fail to cover it all up.

By the way, love your avatar...where did you get it?

[truebrit71]

39. From a link in the General Clark supporters forum...

....take a look!!

[CrispyQ]

60. OMG, that is one of the scariest statements I've read.

But I believe you could be spot on. I put nothing past this administration - NOTHING.

[mzmolly]

22. Thanks for posting.

Recommended!

[grace0418]

33. My sister in Seattle sent it to me to post here. She

should get the credit. In any case, thanks. Freaky huh?

[mzmolly]

40. Yep, but not surprising. Many drugs are not really properly vetted

until they come on the market. The government already picks up the tab in many cases of vaccine induced injury or death. The max payout is 250K. I guess this was the next step?

Thanks to your sister. This has been posted here before, but your presentation got attention, and that's great!

[The Backlash Cometh]

23. There is something going on here that they're not telling us.

[Richard D]

28. yeah, no shit . . .

. . . gotta wonder what will really be in a the flu shots.

Also, how are they going to force it on us. At gunpoint? Great excuse for full on fascism, IMNVHO.

[The Backlash Cometh]

25. I recommend trickle down vaccinations.

The top 1% rich people in this country should be treated first. If they die off in alarming numbers, then we'll stop the vaccinations for the rest of the country.

[truebrit71]

27. Brilliant idea!!!

In fact, as long as we are following along with the current fiscal "plan" of this mis-administration, not only should the rich get theirs first, but they need to take 2/3rds of mine as well...

[The Backlash Cometh]

30. Thanks. Neal Boorist gave me the idea. n/t

[mzmolly]

42. Well unfortunately we start with 2 month old infants and call injury or

death "coincidence" now, I'm certain the top 1% won't be injected with the 30 plus vaccines our children are anytime soon. But I love the idea! ;)

[converted_democrat]

48. That is one of the best ideas I've heard in a long time! n/t

[truebrit71]

26. So let me get this straight...

...as well as pulling 7.2 billion out of thin air for vaccines, and placing severe limits on liability claims should you die from the vaccine, and the fact that Lt AWOL is speaking in terms of "when" and not "if" regarding the pandemic, are there any questions as to A) Who runs this country, and B) Exactly how much deep shit we are already in...

Folks, it's time to think seriously about packing some bags and getting the hell out of Dodge whilst the gates are still open...

[grace0418]

32. No kidding. This freaks my shit out.

If they can't control us through the media then they'll do it through medication.

[converted_democrat]

29. I am so against this.....n/t

[grace0418]

35. It's time to find all the doctors we know who will work

to help keep us safe. i.e. "officially" give us the vaccination, unofficially give us a vitamin shot.

[The Backlash Cometh]

36. What are the chances that the Christian Science followers,Scientologist or

or Amish will accept this vaccines? Or even white paramilitaries?

[truebrit71]

37. Never mind that lot...What are the chances REGULAR folk are going...

...to accept "MANDATORY" 'vaccine' shots....???

I don't trust this government further than I can comfortably spit out a rat...think I'm going to let them inject me to "protect me"...??

I don't friggin' think so...

[The Backlash Cometh]

44. The one weak link in Bush's campaign against big government, is that

he now has no legitimacy to using it for any reason. He's done a good job to raise the level of distrust in federal government AND the Republican party.

[RB TexLa]

41. hate to sound too much like a conservative here but

I've got a gun, no one is injecting me with anything I don't want in my body.

[mtnester]

43. First thing I heard this morning:

Drug companies saying they could not increase the amount of Tamiflu available because there were not enough shield laws for them.

This is not a matter of cannot, it is a matter of WILL NOT.

And it should be criminal.

[The Backlash Cometh]

45. As I understand it, Roche loosened up its rights.

If it's important enough for the government to produce enough for everyone in America, then it should be the insurer for these companies that it's asking to produce Tamiflu.

But I don't think this thread is talking about Tamiflu. They're talking about mandatory vaccinations.

[bee]

46. This bill has ALREADY passed the Senate HELP Committee

Committee approves Burr's bioterror bill

(snip)
Democrats, including Sens. Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts and Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, expressed concern that the bill does not take up the threat of a pandemic sparked by the spread of avian flu. Numerous health advocates have been warning in recent weeks that the nation is not prepared to deal with an outbreak.

"The flu virus is not going to wait while we delay," said Kennedy, the ranking Democrat on the committee.

"It does bother me that we are doing this piecemeal," said Clinton, who like every other member of the committee praised Burr for his efforts but wondered if more should be included.
(snip)

Democrats are FOR this. unfuckingbelievable.
HELP Committee members

[The Backlash Cometh]

47. A pandemic is its own free market advertisement.

You make those vaccines available, and the people will come. You don't need to make it mandatory.

[grace0418]

49. They're good at using fear as a tool.

And most people won't even question it. They'll be clamoring for it.

[boralowa]

50. more $$$$ for pharmaceutical companies!!

I just read that this bill was passed. I think we all should still call our Senators and tell them how we feel. I will never let them inject me with their vile crap!! Bush is really pushing for this. Big story in Yahoo! Funny how they're glossing over the mandatory part!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051101/ap_on_he_me/bush_flu;_ylt=AjTHV5mZ.AbIU6ByU5cFu0ADW7oF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

[grace0418]

53. Welcome to DU boralowa!

Yeah, it's amazing to think how many people will willingly agree to this without ever questioning. Even people who think BushCo is a complete ass.

[newyawker99]

61. Hi boralowa!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[verdalaven]

51. I understand the gravity of this bill

I figured I'd post a disclaimer before adding that there are already vaccines virtually forced on our children. If one of our children is in a public school their vaccinations have to be up to date or they cannot attend. Consider Robert Kennedy Jr's recent revelations about vaccines being the cause of the rise of autism in the nineties. Just because the vaccine has been around forever doesn't mean it is safe.

I oppose this bill with every fiber of my being. I don't think anything should be forced on us, especially not a "cure" for a flu that is hardly a blip on the radar as of yet. All I am saying is the government already has this power. They're just expanding on it to include adults.

[grace0418]

52. I know what you're saying and I agree. But at least we have the choice

to pull our kids out of public school and send them to alternative schools or private school. I realize this isn't possible for everyone but it is an option that can be explored. Making the vaccinations mandatory for all adults just takes it one huge, terrifying step forward. It's not a power BushCo should be allowed to have, because we all know what BushCo does with any kind of power.

[verdalaven]

56. I do agree with you

that it is a huge terrifying step forward, I just think it has been eased by all the tiny baby steps they have been taking all along.

As for private schools......wouldn't they also want their student's immunized?

[grace0418]

58. Depends upon the school. Alternative schools often have a liberal

bent and are willing to allow different decisions on this.

[undergroundpanther]

54. Some of my thoughts on MANDATORY

And what might be in the "vaccine"................

"We live in a voluntary society," he said. According to the CEO, individuals may choose not to take advantage of the technology.
Zhou alluded to some Christians' objection to medicine per se, adding such opposition wanes when the life-saving, life-improving benefits of technology are realized.

"A few years ago there may have been resistance, but not anymore," he continued. "People are getting used to having implants. New century, new trend."Zhou compared Digital Angel® to pacemakers, which regulate a user's heart rate. Pacemakers used to be seen as bizarre, said Zhou, but now they are part of everyday life. Digital Angel® will be received the same way, he added.

Vaccines are another good comparison, said the scientist, who noted, "Both save your life. When vaccines came out, people were against them. But now we don't even think about it."
!!!

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=23232

More links
http://www.politechbot.com/p-02154.html

American genocide
http://www.iwchildren.org/missionary.htm

Eugenics

http://www.projectcensored.org/publications/2001/16.html


So if Eugenics is the goal and a culling of"undesirables" and the ability to track us..OF COURSE they want legal IMMUNITY from the people they cull.injure or track!! Because the bush admin are fascists,Come on Bush's great grandfather supported the Nazis.. They want to rule the world and the Reich mentality is not gone it's just masked.. And they don't want to be accountable to anybody for the potential disasters and anger and injuries and deaths this "dream" of their kingdom/empire/reich hierarchy drawn on racial,religious and class lines will cause.The white fascists know they are dying out "Nature is about to delete them from the Gene pool.So what do they do,they delete the competition. Like any other white fascist capitalist who thinks he must always win and conquer all competition.
Just apply the robber baron game to race and population.

[rucky]

55. I will go to jail first. n/t

[UpInArms]

57. Can anyone here say "religious exemption"?

Even those "mandatory" innoculations for children in public schools can be gotten around merely by using those words.

Calm down.

Repeat after me:

"Religious Exemption"

I knew you could.

It is against my religion to do anything that this mal-administration says is "mandatory".

That was easy!

[newspeak]

59. kind of makes you think of Starhawk's book

"The Fifth Sacred Thing". Corporate theocrats take control of the US except for parts of California, Oregon and Washington. Anyway there's a threat of an epidemic, so they give civilians a vaccination, then afterwards tell them that they must continue to have the shot to live. If it is not administered every 48 hours, they will die. So they have complete control of the population. Spooky book!!!! :scared:

[Elwood P Dowd]

64. And the Supreme Court would never rule this law unconstitutional

since the corporate boot lickers are now in charge.