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CalebHayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:33 AM
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What are Kerry's skeletons in the closet?
I don't want to but we need to do this now. What will Karl Rove dig up?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:36 AM
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1. here's a link
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CalebHayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:39 AM
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5. bad link... Or the site is down
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:42 AM
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8. Try this one
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CalebHayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:42 AM
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9. same, maybe it's on my end.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:45 AM
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10. One more
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:52 AM
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11. Nice anti-bush site though
Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 01:23 AM by bigtree

http://www.anti-bush.com


Way to go cqhayes!
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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:36 AM
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2. Old ketchup bottles?
eom
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Valjean Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:37 AM
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3. GOP likes Kerry

The GOP seems to like Kerry for SOME reason even though he's a blatant eastern liberal. One can only imagine what the Bonesman know about Kerry.

Kerry owes more to the Bonesman than he does to even his wife. Why would you trust a person like that. We've already seen what the last three Boner presidents have done to this nation and to other nations.

Do NOT trust another Bonesman to be president!!!!!
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union_maid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:39 AM
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4. WE don't have to
Kerry's campaign has to. However, it seems that we are. <sarcasm>Just browse through the threads and you'll see that Kerry is now to blame for every bad thing that's ever happened, starting with the Chicago fire of 1861, I think. At least Clark is getting a break from being accused of starting the Spanish Inquisition, or whatever the latest theory is.</sarcasm>
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aldian159 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 02:50 AM
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21. Fire in 1871
Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 02:51 AM by aldian159
Yeah, Kerry is responsible for killing Jesus, haven't you heard?

I'll do shorthand, far easier

Kerry = Mass.
Mass = Pilgrims
Pilgrims = England
England = Roman takeover
Roman takeover = Kill Jesus

Damn you Kerry!
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:40 AM
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6. Check the Boston Globe
they hate Kerry. This Boston Globe series has everything bad and good, they have been able to uncover about him.

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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:40 AM
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7. Anyone in pootics that long will have problems.
I don't know what Rove will dig up, but I'm sure it will consist of partial truths as he always does.

One of the things that scares me is Kerry faking puffing a joint the other night. I bet that one is already on tape with the Pubs.

I guess I'm also concerned that this country has not elected a sitting Washington elected official in A LONG TIME! There's too much already on record to be found. Remember McCain?
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:53 AM
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12. Washington Post Columnist (1/29) Defends Kerry
If Karl Rove thinks he can take down John Kerry the way his mentor, Lee Atwater, took down Michael Dukakis, he's got another thing coming.


The Kerry who delivered that victory speech in Manchester on Tuesday night was the most effective Democratic politico since the fall of Bill Clinton. Within his first two minutes at the microphone, Kerry had delivered a stinging populist attack on the president and managed to identify himself with his Vietnam vet comrades who surrounded him onstage.

"I depended on the same band of brothers I depended on some 30 years ago," said Kerry, thanking Max Cleland and a bunch of guys wearing the insignias of their old units for delivering in New Hampshire as they had in Iowa. "We're a little older, a little grayer, but we still know how to fight for our country!"

Almost instantaneously, Kerry deployed both his offense and defense.

On the stump, he is seldom so succinct: Digressions abound, adverbs pop up to take the punch from his punch lines. But Kerry has a sense of occasion; he is at his best -- as he was Tuesday night, and during his debates against Bill Weld in their 1996 Senate contest -- when the whole world is watching.

What should most concern Republicans, though, is Kerry's adeptness in attacking the administration's nearly 90-degree tilt toward the rich -- toward the insurance, drug and oil companies, against which Kerry, like all the Democratic candidates except Joe Lieberman, inveighs. The response of the GOP bloggers, talk show hosts and columnists is to accuse Kerry of a culturally inauthentic populism. Teresa Heinz Kerry and her husband, they note, bear scant resemblance to Ma and Pa Kettle.

Historically, though, the Democrats have done pretty well under the leadership of patricians who've attacked Republican plutocrats. Those patricians have needed some way to establish their normality, to be sure. In that sense, Kerry's time in Vietnam humanizes him much as the battle with polio did Franklin Roosevelt.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:54 AM
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13. Rove doesn't have to dig anything out!
Kerry's own record, and his many flip-flops that have been captured in video, provides more than enough ammunition for Rove.
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:59 AM
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14. The Green Party will be insignificant this year
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:21 AM
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15. What does that have to do..............
Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 01:21 AM by DumpGump
with Indiana's message? Cheap shot, attack the message not the messanger.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:43 AM
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16. Regarding Greens and the "Anyone for Bush" mantra.
For a break with the Democratic Party

The central historical problem of the American working class has been its inability to break from the bourgeois parties and establish its own mass independent party. The established two-party system offers only the illusion of choice. Both the Democrats and the Republicans, whatever their differences, accept and defend the social framework of American capitalism: the domination of all aspects of life by private wealth and production for profit.

<snip>

The Greens play a reactionary political role, opposing the development of a socialist movement based on the working class in favor of the formation of a third capitalist party. As the record of the Green Party in Germany has demonstrated, once the Greens begin to achieve influence in bourgeois politics they quickly discard their initial radicalism. The former pacifists in the German Greens paved the way for the first overseas deployment of German troops since World War II. In California, Green candidate Peter Camejo backed the right-wing-inspired recall campaign and ended up tacitly supporting a vote for the main Democratic candidate, Cruz Bustamante.

In the 2004 campaign, these left-talking politicians will once again seek to put off the critical question of establishing the political independence of the working class from both big business parties. They will seek to divert the mass opposition to Bush behind whichever candidate emerges from the Democratic nomination contest. They all subscribe to the position of “anyone but Bush,” as though Bush were the only weapon of American capitalism, rather than one of many instruments of the ruling elite.

All such “lesser evil” politics are truly a dead end for the working class. There is no shortcut in the struggle against imperialist war and social reaction.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/jan2004/stat-j27.shtml

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Sam Lowry Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:45 AM
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17. Do you really want to know?
Kerry has two penises and they fight with each other when he's asleep.

Check it; it's in his medical records.
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Adjoran Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 02:33 AM
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18. Oh, I don't know
. . . maybe a few photos with Jane Fonda, and about a hundred video clips.

What worries me is Kerry being forced to do so much explaining of past positions/statements that he can't get a positive message out. That, and that he would even mention winning without the south, are concerns.

When the media has focused on Kerry as frontrunner for a few weeks, we will have a better idea of what to expect. But the people who rail against the media as "attack dogs" must not have met Mr. Rove yet.

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 02:36 AM
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19. Not to mention a hard to find book and its controversial cover
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isbister Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 02:43 AM
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20. Karl Rove had better
concentrate how he will be able to spin the worst President the US has ever known.
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