Dean Folk: Should Trippi Join the Kerry Campaign? Or off to Bahamas?

[Raya]

Joe Trippi made a great effort on the 1992 Brown Campaign. I thought he was the genius behind Dean co-opting the Internet cyber-left and the ant-war movement. Was this a deeply felt and sincere effort or just a campaign tactic.


Was it Trippi who was behind the vicious attacks on Kerry ("Slippery Washington Insider," "Waffler," "Cockroach" etc) or did this come from
Dean himself?

If Trippi was behind the great Dean campaign grass-roots effort wouldn't it be good for Dems if he became a Kerry volunteer to help grow the grass-roots effort in the Kerry campaign?
Or did Trippi make enough of a bundle on his percent of the Dean Ad buys to take off to the Bahamas just laugh it off?

Enquiring minds really want to know.

[LSdemocrat]

1. Trippi isn't going to Kerry

Trippi did this for Dean. Quite frankly, it couldn't have been done for Kerry. Trippi didn't invent the internet campaign. The internet campaigners found Dean, all Trippi did was embrace them and take them seriously.

[mouse7]

4. You mean... Trippi stole the credit

Trippi tried to steal concept credit for lots of ideas others did the ground work on and got launched... Meet-Ups, for example.

[Raya]

12. Really? Important to know what was Trippi's contribution.

[genius]

2. Don't hire him.

Everyone hates his tactics.

[srpantalonas]

3. right. the world is blown away by the Dean movement

and you say people don't like his tactics. nice.

[arewethereyet]

5. I think if the world were blown away it might vote for him

doesn't seem to be happening.

[mitchum]

7. Wrong, the world is blown away FROM the Dean movement...

if the polls (and Iowa and NH) are any indication

Why the hell would Kerry want Trippi?

[polpilot]

32. Right. The DLC pro-war, pro-Patriot Act regime has their establishment

candidate...the 30+ years dynamic change-the-world Kerry!!!! Talk about a rebel...he's says he'll bring in fine folk like Jim Baker, too!! Can't wait.

Dean '04...The Decent Party

[no name no slogan]

8. the world? oh please....

Believe it or not, the world does not revolve around the Dean campaign. He just happened to be in the right place at the right time to denounce the war-- making him stand out from the others. The only thing remotely "revolutionary" about the campaign was its use of internet fundraising and the blog. And even THAT's not original-- I created a web site for a candidate in 2000 that had regular updates from the candidate, and a guestbook for supporters.

Dean is not the first candidate to have a "grassroots" following, and he's definately not the last.

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[fujiyama]

13. Actually McCain...

did use the web pretty effectively. After his NH victory he recieved several thousand dollars in donations.

There was a lot to build from for Dean's campaign. The Meet Ups were an especially brilliant idea, but anyone have any articles on Dean's internet campaign and who actually came up with it? I'm really skeptical if it really was Trippi that did all that.

[bearfartinthewoods]

19. mccain raised a half million dollars in one day on the internet

and the first person to sign up a million on line supporters was bush

no, i don't have links ...just a memory for meaningless factiods

[Bombtrack]

14. Dean never had 500,000 dedicated supporters, and he certainly doesn't now

There has never been any proof of the various lofty claims of Dean's numbers. He's claimed up to a million and a half on various ocasions, one of his clear pathological lies.

A liberal estimate would be 150,000 at it's height in the US, and that's nothing to yawn at, but he has misrepresented how many he's had on many, many, ocasions

[molly]

21. Well, there will probably be some kind of investigation?

[WiseMen]

22. Had far more volunteers nationwide than Kerry, IMHO

[Bombtrack]

26. So? That has nothing to do with Dean making up lies

it's a pattern with him. Dean is a liar

[MMT]

15. I'm not sure it's a good idea to dismiss someone as "smug or stupid"

unless you offer evidence for your claims. There is no evidence that Dean was anything more than a creation of the media. Something like the well-known way that the Hollywood publicity machine created stars in the '30s and '40s out of unexceptional actors.

So please, show more courtesy.

[mdmc]

17. kick

:kick:

[Raya]

36. Surely the Dean of the Campaign is not Dean of Vermont

[sandnsea]

6. NOOOO!!!!!!!!

No thank you.

[Duncan Grant]

10. Isn't this thread missing it's lock? n/t

[Feanorcurufinwe]

11. Why should this topic be off limits?

[Raya]

16. Media is still saying Trippi behind Grass-Roots effort. What's True?

How could Dean possibly have spent the 45 mil that he raised in
two states? I thought this money was for going against Bush

[molly]

18. Absolutely NOT!!!!

he's nuts.

[Sensitivity]

20. Trippi has a lot of our money. Should be able to work for Kerry for free.

[isbister]

23. No thank you

Plus, I think he hates Kerry.

[GalleryGod]

39. "DUDE !?! Where's My $43 Million !?!?"

Pay the $983.00 Deli Bill you guys ran out on in Ames, Iowa!

Talk about Cockroaches! It made the Ames TV broadcast.:argh: :puke:

[Hep]

24. Trippi wasn't behind it.

The internet campaign existed before Trippi joined. Also, the campaign has been in the hands of Dean supporters from the beginning. And that was only PARTLY trippis doing. Frankly, I was never a fan of Trippi, and a search of the GD archives will bear that out.

I wish I could encounter a Kerry supporter who actually understood what Dean's campaign is about. Sadly, too many people in America don't want to know.

[Raya]

28. I have been in the cyber comunity from before MoveOn. I really want

to understand more about what now motivates Dean supporters and how we can all together work to change our country enough between now and November to take back our government -- Presidency, House, Senate.

[Hep]

38. That's a funny joke!

Thanks for the humor.

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[HuckleB]

27. Trippi supporting Kerry, outside of the GE, doesn't make sense.

[Raya]

29. What about after Feb 3rd if Dean gets 0 wins.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

30. No he shouldn't. He should continue to help Howard Dean

in any way he can and make sure Dean remains a viable candidate.

[Adjoran]

31. Don't know about Trippi

but I am going to the Bahamas Feb 19. If I see him on the beach, I'll report when I get back!

Off topic: Why do NAFTA opponents keep complaining about Mexico when we are being flooded with all this cheap Canadian weather?

[Cuban_Liberal]

33. Enquiring minds just wanna stir the pot, looks like to me. n/t

[WiseMen]

35. For myself, I would love it If people like Trippi got Heavily into GE

[Fleshdancer]

34. Enquiring minds want to know what the point of this thread is

Why would Trippi have any interest in joining the Kerry campaing if he has already publicly stated that he supports Dean?

And when did Dean say "slippery" when talking about Washington insiders? As far as "waffler" goes, didn't Kerry say the same thing about Dean? And Dean never called Kerry a cockroach. but nice flame attempt. A for effort. :eyes:

[WiseMen]

37. Just Heard Trippi took Dean for 5 mill. Think he is bought and paid for.