Kerry Supports: Please Respond to Bush in 1st Debate . . .

[AVID]

You signed the Provision, you gave me the power. You supported the war.

In Kerry's own words, respond please.

I have to get over this.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

1. You want us to respond to Bush in Kerry's own words? What?

First of all, the War Powers Act gave Bush the power. So that is just plain wrong. How would Kerry point out Bush's error in a national debate? A hell of a lot better than I can, that's for sure.

MATTHEWS: Were we right to go to Iraq?

KERRY: Not the way the president did it. Clearly, no, because he didn’t plan for how to win the peace. He didn’t build the kind of coalition he said he would. He didn’t keep his promises to the American people.

He promised he would respect the U.N. He promised he would, in fact, build an international coalition and he promised he would go to war as a last resort. And, Chris, one of the great lessons I learned in Vietnam is the meaning of the words “last resort.”

I think the test for a president as to whether or not you send young men or women anywhere to fight is whether you can look in the eyes of parents-if you lose one of them-and say to those parents, I tried to do everything in my power to avoid this happening to your child. But we had no choice for the security of our country. I believe the president of the United States fails that test in Iraq.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3227001/

[AVID]

2. yes, basically. . .how does he handle this?

Sorry for the lack of knowledge, but I am hearing many people say they would never vote for Kerry because of the war issue.

Was just wondering how he will handle against Bush

[Feanorcurufinwe]

6. So these people who

'say they would never vote for Kerry because of the war issue.'

Who are they gonna vote for?

[JVS]

7. Someone else

[Feanorcurufinwe]

10. Who?

[jpgray]

3. Easy one

The American people and I trusted you, and you betrayed us. You told us Saddam was an imminent threat. You told us that he was developing nuclear weapons. You told us he held thousands of tons of chemical and biological weapons. You told us he had connections with Al Qaeda.

You lied. You lied to me, you lied to my colleagues in Congress, and more importantly you lied to the people of the United States. I know now it was a mistake to trust you, but in my defense I can at least say I trusted the president to do the right thing, small comfort though it must be to those families who have sons and daugthers in Iraq.

You have no such excuse--you lied to receive the authority, and you betrayed our trust by abandoning the inspections and shunning our allies.

So the people have to decide--do they vote for me, someone who trusted his president to do the right thing? Or do they vote for you, one who has consistently abused the trust of a nation following the tragedy of September 11th?

edit: This is how I would act in a debate if I were Kerry--these are not quotes.

edit2: Kerry has to turn this weakness (and it is one) into a strength. The avenue open to him is the fact that his support of giving Bush authority assuming he would do the right thing with it exactly mirrors the public's opinion. In the public's mind, they were betrayed by Bush. Kerry can play up on that, because he went (in theory) through the same thing.

[creativelcro]

9. To this Bush will say that he did not lie

and that he simply carried out the task Kerry & C agreed he would do. And he will bring up all the Kerry flip-flops on war issues. Were those lies ?...

[jpgray]

11. So you're saying Bush didn't lie? (nt)

[Feanorcurufinwe]

12. And who's gonna believe Bush when he says he didn't lie.

Everyone knows he did, even his supporters.

[sandnsea]

13. Bush did a good job??

Is that what you're saying? He honestly dealt with the UN? He let the inspections continue as long as was necessary? He hasn't alienated the world? He had a wonderful post-invasion strategy? Either this is what the American people think or it isn't. Kerry can make the case against Bush exactly because he didn't reject the notion that Saddam should be held accountable. Neither did Clark. That's the reason these are the only two who CAN take on this war.

Dean kept saying Saddam had all these weapons but now tries to say he knew Saddam was no threat all along. Dean is the one with a year's worth of flip flops, not Kerry.

[adadem]

4. "You lied to me and the world"

The evidence runs from the lies he told in the SOU to the fake pictures they showed Kerry and others to the facts we know now.

[sandnsea]

5. You're the fucking President

Okay, he can't say that. But Bush can't blame Congress for his failures in allowing inspections to continue; alienating the UN and the world; hyping, manipulating, lying about the intelligence; and having no plan after the invasion. All of that is the President's job.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

8. Yeah, maybe he'll just call Bush a fuckup to his face.

lol, nah, I think he can do better than that.

[buckeye1]

14. Debates?

Forget about it.

Why would Bush debate? He only has structured exposure. He cannot risk it.

Daydreams of debates are foolish.