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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:18 PM
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Poll question: Do you trust internet voting?
Arizona,California, Delaware, Maine, Michigan, Missouri, New Mexico, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Virginia are all having internet voting right now.

I'm going to try to vote online, but I'm worried about fraud, identity theft, etc.

Do you trust it?
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:19 PM
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1. Mail in an absentee ballot.
Much better. I think.
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Paulie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:20 PM
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2. I voted No...
... because there was no: "HELL NO, NO FREAKING WAY!!!!" option. :D :D :D
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SadEagle Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:26 PM
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3. No.
And if you vote electronically, make sure you have all security updates for your browser installed. When you go to the site, make sure they use a secure connection. And make sure to check the certificate, to see that it's for the proper organization.

If you didn't understand any of what I said, and/or didn't plan to do this before voting, you just personally illustrated one of my concerns over e-voting: even if absolutely everything is done perfectly security-wise on the server-side, and that absolutely every piece of software is perfectly secure, etc., etc., the voters themselves still must do a great deal of checking, and have good understanding of basic public-key cryptosystems, which even many CS-type people lack.
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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:27 PM
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4. I'm a system admin in both UNIX and microslop
as well as a network admin. Trust me when I tell you this if it goes on a computer it's not secure. You cannot delete a file that I can't get back and and you can't secure a network no matter what.
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:42 PM
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5. EEEEEEEEEEEEEEKKKK!!!
NO FREAKIN' WAY!

http://www.blackboxvoting.com
<snip>
Michigan (Feb. 7): To encourage a higher turnout, Democrats will allow Internet voting along with traditional methods, after party officials said they cleared up any potential security problems.

But computer experts warned the Pentagon Wednesday to abandon a $22 million experiment in online voting this year for troops overseas because of a host of security risks.

"There's a consensus among election people that Internet voting is a good idea whose time has not yet come," said Doug Chapin, director of the information project.

Internet voting is a concept whose time will never come, if anybody has any sense.
<end snip>

I find it kind of odd that someone with over 1000 posts isn't up on the BBV issue.

No way on God's earth I'd trust Internet voting... the very idea is absurd. Mail in an absentee ballot if you can't caucus.

Pleeeeeeeeeease don't encourage anyone to vote on the Internet in your sig line! It's practically blasphemy.

Oh, here's an interesting story about those Internet voting swine, VoteHere:
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/votehere-hack.htm
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:48 AM
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6. Not for ballot submission. But, great for printing a ballot:.
1. Disables secret ballotting. All Internet transactions are traceable.

2. Removes human indentifiable chain of custody. The votes should be verifiable by humans without intermediate machine interpretation at all times from where the voter hands over the voter verifiable ballot to where the ballot is (possibly) recounted. The ballot may contain bar codes that correspond to the names redudndant on the same ballot.

The Internet is great for research and printing a ballot which can be read by a machine at a voting site.
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