Lest forget, amid the swirl of criminality, that today's number is 1999

[Stinky The Clown]

http://icasualties.org/oif/

I recognize that 2000 is just a number. But it is the symbolism. The big, round numbers always are. For it to (very likely) happen on the day Prosecutor Fitzgerald lays it all out is quite amazing, really.

Reality and truth trump manufactured spin and Rovian politics any day of the week.

If only the truth will out.

[Name removed]

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[Stinky The Clown]

2. If you want to parse, how about parsing this ....... ?

The armor of our military today is far and away superior to what it was in, say, Vietnam. How many more dead would there be if we counted that? Do you want to use better armor (a good bit of it developed during the Clinton years) to defend the numbers?

By your posit, there are 1500. By my posit (converting certain extreme injuries to 'deaths') we might be at ..... what? ..... 5000?

[RaleighNCDUer]

4. If you can show that those same accidents would have occurred

outside the theater, I just might agree.

But when a guy drowns in a canal because he jerked his wheel to avoid what he thought was a mine in the road, I'd count that as a combat death. If a soldier gets run over because a driver was watching a suspicious approaching car rather then watching for pedestrians, I'd call that a combat death.

All deaths in the theater of combat are counted. Period.

[Ioo]

3. MoreThanANumber.org - See what 1999 looks like.

http://www.morethananumber.org/

I have it as 1995 w/ 4 that are not released yet.

Please go and visit, SEE what 1999 looks like. Also sign the guestbook, and read what others have said...

God bless them all,

[quaoar]

5. This is a very powerful representation of the number of dead

http://www.obleek.com/iraq/index.html

When the page loads, press the red button and it displays all the dead on a map of Iraq.