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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 05:52 PM Original message |
Who was the last tolerable repug President? First? Any? |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. nixon did alot of good shit |
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MnFats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 05:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Bullshit. Nixon was a monstrous war criminal. |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 06:13 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. He did not have the blood of 58,000 |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 01:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
41. But Johnson eventually realized the war was wrong |
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demzilla (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 03:24 PM Response to Reply #41 |
80. On what planet |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:13 PM Response to Reply #41 |
92. You're insane |
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RFKHumphreyObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 10:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
73. In addition Nixon kickstarted the Middle East peace process |
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July (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
93. While Nixon did establish the EPA, I'd never use his name and "class" in |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 07:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
69. Wrong |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 07:07 PM Response to Reply #69 |
87. A bit disingenuous. |
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ISUGRADIA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:46 PM Response to Reply #87 |
95. What Vietnamese kicked us out? |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 06:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Never in my lifetime would I have EVER |
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mrcheerful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 06:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Yeah like kill kids at Kent state and invade Cambodia |
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July (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:28 PM Response to Reply #7 |
94. Not to mention his slimy treatment of rivals and perceived "enemies." nt |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 01:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
39. You are out of your mind if you really think that... |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 04:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
58. You CANNOT remove Watergate from his presidency. |
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YDogg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
2. Theodore Roosevelt ? I dunno. |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 09:52 AM Response to Reply #2 |
29. Yeah, he's got my vote. |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:54 AM Response to Reply #2 |
33. Mark Twain really didn't like TR at all, and had I been alive then, I'd |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 07:08 PM Response to Reply #33 |
88. Indeed! |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
3. Gerald Ford |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 05:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I agree...Gerald Ford was the last decent one. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 06:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. He Wrote An Amicus Brief In The Last Big Affirmative Action Case |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 02:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
78. Gerald Ford was decent but in way over his head. Remember the |
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ay3100 (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 08:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. Ford? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 04:08 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Carter Was Pro-Choice |
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bmbmd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 09:42 AM Response to Reply #17 |
27. Well said. |
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newyawker99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 12:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
38. Hi ay3100!! |
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Nightwing (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 05:16 AM Response to Reply #3 |
18. Ford would be my choice as well |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 09:51 AM Response to Reply #3 |
28. Interesting...the best republican president was never elected |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 08:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
70. Would be my pick as well. |
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MN ChimpH8R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
9. Ford and Eisenhower |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 06:03 PM Response to Reply #9 |
67. Ike Was Long Ago, But As A Very Young Politico.... |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
10. TR |
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youngred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 01:37 PM Response to Reply #10 |
44. The Nobel Prize was awarded |
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Tesla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
11. An old but interesting Lincoln article |
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mrcheerful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 06:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Well Hinkley shot Reagan |
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overdub (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 01:18 PM Response to Reply #13 |
40. Re: Well Hinkley shot Reagan |
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rsdsharp (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 03:26 PM Response to Reply #40 |
81. I don't mean to be an ass |
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NoPasaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 09:21 AM Response to Reply #11 |
24. Booth wasn't "in his right mind" |
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ISUGRADIA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 12:35 PM Response to Reply #11 |
34. OK that article was crap, NO ONE seriously thinks Lincoln's wife |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
14. You're being sarcastic about that book, right? |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 10:39 AM Response to Reply #14 |
30. No, I mean it. Lincoln was a racist who did not free a single slave |
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ISUGRADIA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 12:38 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. The emancipation proclaimation free more than a single slave |
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youngred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 01:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
45. He was a Segregationist you are correct |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 04:40 PM Response to Reply #45 |
63. Our own Democratic presidents didn't have enlightened policies towards |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 05:50 PM Response to Reply #30 |
66. Um, well, if you want to take seriously a book... |
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cantstandbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
16. I like Ike. Ford pardoned Nixon. bad n/t |
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txaslftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
19. If 'tolerable' is your criteria, Reagan was 'tolerable'. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 07:11 PM Response to Reply #19 |
89. Yeah, unless you lived in South America. Or the Middle East. |
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cyn2 (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
20. Eisenhower |
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HootieMcBoob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 04:17 PM Response to Reply #20 |
57. I agree |
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zann725 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
21. Sorry, can't think of a one. Notta. |
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warrens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
22. Ike |
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DaveinMD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
23. Eisenhower |
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Awsi Dooger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 09:04 PM Response to Reply #23 |
71. I agree, based on history books I've read |
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NoPasaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
25. I'll go with Ford |
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Thirtieschild (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
26. Eisenhower |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
31. ZEEE-RO. |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:32 PM Response to Reply #31 |
54. How do you blame Ike for the Korean War? |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 07:33 PM Response to Reply #54 |
68. Ooops |
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bunny planet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
32. Honest Abe and more recently perhaps Eisenhower. |
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Rambis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
36. Ford he had no power |
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Robeson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
37. Actually.....none. |
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gulfcoastliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
42. Uh.... Maybe - Garfield |
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youngred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
43. Eisenhower |
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hippiegranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
46. Ike |
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MissMarple (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:28 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Ike, as well. |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
48. Ford pardoned Nixon |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
49. Teddy Roosevelt. |
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NoPasaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:43 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Also a bit of a war monger and he loved big game hunting |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:18 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. A warmonger? |
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NoPasaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:24 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Granted, he raised and led the Rough Riders |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 04:24 PM Response to Reply #49 |
60. He was actually less of a trust buster than Taft. |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 04:39 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. If TR was a grandstanding fool, then we need more grandstanding fools. |
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ReadTomPaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
51. Bill Clinton n/t |
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meganmonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:47 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. ... |
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ArkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 01:33 PM Response to Reply #51 |
77. Second... |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 03:10 PM Response to Reply #51 |
79. There was that "my fellow Republicans" remark he made... |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
56. None |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 04:30 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. Eisenhower was a pretty damn good president. |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 04:52 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. But |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 05:28 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. I could nit-pick the way you do to tear down any president's legacy. |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:04 PM Response to Reply #65 |
74. Not just any president |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 12:31 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. My point is that I could pick out certain things to even make FDR look bad |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 05:16 PM Response to Reply #75 |
84. Yes but |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 09:48 PM Response to Reply #61 |
72. Kennedy sent the army in to force school integration |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 01:32 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. Please do not re-write history. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 06:43 PM Response to Reply #76 |
85. I stand corrected |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 04:56 PM Response to Reply #61 |
83. He also consecrated the New Deal and the safety net in political terms |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 08:30 AM Response to Reply #83 |
90. You're right. I completely forgot that. |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
59. Ford and Ike |
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DuaneBidoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
82. Nixon was actually quite liberal. He is responsible, among many |
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BlueStater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
86. Gerald Ford |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
91. Dwight D. Eisenhower |
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