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Bushknew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 12:29 PM
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Chemical experimentation on human beings is being carried out by the United States military, according to Joyce Riley, RN BSN, a spokesperson for the American Gulf War Veterans Association, who offers proof in a new DVD entitled "Beyond Treason."

Riley, who narrates the DVD, says that chemical and biological exposures have contributed to hundreds of thousands of health casualties, many resulting in death, of military veterans.

"Beyond Treason" consists of a DVD featuring interviews and images related to the experiments, plus a bonus CD-ROM with thousands of pages of documents retrieved from the Federal government through the Freedom of Information Act. Other documents are also provided to back up charges that the government is misleading the public in regard to this testing.

ICONOCLAST: YouÕve produced a new DVD called "Beyond Treason," which I understand is something that you have said all veterans should see.

RILEY: I want to promote that weÕve got 10,000 of these DVDs to give away, free, to military people. Anybody past military, present military, or just getting ready to join the military.

ICONOCLAST: How do people get one of those 10,000 copies?

RILEY: All we want is just proof of service, you know, VFW membership card, or American Legion, whatever, it doesnÕt make any difference. Just proof of showing some kind of military service and they can either fax it to us or they can mail it to us. If they fax, it is to 573-378-5998; mail is to Vet Offer (or Beyond Treason, either one), P.O. Box 85, Versailles, MO. 65084.

ICONOCLAST: "Beyond Treason," the U.S. governmentÕs long history of conducting deadly military experiments, contains interviews with, what three or four people?

RILEY: Correct.

ICONOCLAST: Right, itÕs got two discs.

RILEY: That CD-ROM has about half the size of an encyclopedia worth of documents on it.

ICONOCLAST: What kind of documents?

RILEY: WeÕve got some Senate Veteran AffairÕs hearings that were never supposed to see the light of day. On Vietnam, we have got a document called, Agent Orange. It is a formerly classified report that nobody was ever to see, by Admiral Zumwalt, which basically tells everything that one needs to know about Agent Orange that the government has not told them., and anybody who is applying for an Agent Orange claim, which there is no such thing, as you know, because there was no such thing as an Agent Orange disability; but if they have Agent Orange poisoning and they want to get their claim in, this will really, really help them.

ICONOCLAST: Regarding the Senate Veterans Hearing, what was this about?

RILEY: This is the one that really opened my eyes.

You see, I was involved in 1991 as a flight nurse for the Air Force. I was a Captain in the Air Force inactive reserve, at the time. I went back to Kelly Air Force Base and made the decision to go back in because everybody in my unit had been called up and they said that if you donÕt come with us to be a flight nurse again, then you may be Army or Navy or whatever they need you for and I wanted to fly. ThatÕs what I did since 1979.

It was my goal to go back and be a flight nurse at Kelly Air Force Base when I was working at Houston, at the time, as a heart/lung/kidney transplant nurse. That was my real job, at Texas Heart Institute.

I wanted to participate. I was so pro-military, you cannot believe it. Military was everything. My father was a belly gunner on a B-17. My mother, who is now 80 years old, was in the Navy. You know, women werenÕt in the Navy that many years ago. She served as a WAVE in the Navy and so military was everything.

So in 1991, of course, there was no question as to whether I would go back again.

I received 10 shots in one day, which absolutely changed my life.

I became ill as a result of that, and by December of 1991, I was hospitalized with a disease called a demyelinating disease. They called it multiple sclerosis, but not quite. A lot of the nurses were becoming ill with this same thing, and having trouble walking and functioning.

But I continued to work, but I could not work and do the reserve also, so I had to drop out of my unit in San Antonio.

Like I said, by December/January 1991/1992, I was hospitalized and I was really sick at that time.

Well, low and behold, nobody had heard anything about a Gulf War illness. Certainly not me. Not anybody. So I had this bizarre disease, after I was playing MASH in the air for six months.

I did not deploy to the Middle East. I was a flight nurse aboard a C-130 aircraft and I flew from Alaska to Cuba because the week of the cease fire occurred when I was supposed to deploy to Saudi Arabia.

I continued to serve as back fill nurse, if you will, for the active duty nurses that had gone on and were serving over in Saudi Arabia. So the cease fire came and I continued to do missions and became, like I said, quite ill, as a result of that.

By 1993,1994, I was starting to feel better. I was starting to get a little bit of strength back. In Ô95, Ô96, I became really aware that there had been a massive cover up here because lots of people in the military were sick then. Nobody was talking about it. Certainly not the Department of Defense or the Veterans Administration.

I began to do some investigation. Now, concurrently, with my nursing career, I had also served as, not only a director of nursing of four institutions in San Antonio, but I had also been a medical malpractice legal nurse consultant and I had testified in about, I donÕt know how many trials, and depositions over medical malpractice issues. So I knew what it took to build a case.

I started to see that there was a cover-up because these troops were sick. They were dying. They were having bizarre illnesses, starting out with some of the same symptoms, all of them.

And the Department of Defense couldnÕt quite figure it out.

So, I begin this investigation and, low and behold, to answer your question of the Senate Report, I came across Senate Report 103-97, which literally changed my life.

As I understand, the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee report of this was only for Committee members. It was not supposed to be outside the Committee. In fact, there were only 30 copies printed up of this Senate Report, 103-97. And what I saw in there literally changed my life, like I said, because, it stated the following: "During the past 50 years, hundreds of thousands of our military have been experimented upon without their knowledge or consent."

I couldnÕt believe what I was reading. I had just given my life, basically, loving the military and supporting the military to an organization that was experimenting upon us.

When I read through Senate Report 103-97, which is, by the way, on the CD-ROM, it started talking about all the experiments that had been done on our military without their consent. I thought how arrogant to put this out here in front of everyoneÑit really was not for release to the public, though; but to show what had gone on during this time.

http://www.BeyondTreason.com/

http://www.lonestaricon.com/News/2005/37-38/38news01.htm
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 01:23 PM
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1. This is too important to sink!
Thank you for posting this. Anyone that has served in the ME needs to see this. They need to understand that our gov is poisoning them and taking no responsibility.
DU is so deadly and it seems no one is safe from those vaccinations either.

:kick: :kick: :kick:
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Bushknew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 01:43 PM
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2. The hypocrisy is just incredibleÉ

All this talk about the dangers of using WMD, and here we are using WMD ( bombs with Depleted" uranium) on innocent Iraqi citizens and our troops as well.

What the fuck!
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 04:45 PM
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7. They've nuked the ME and our soldiers.
It was just done subtly. It breaks my heart that when Iraqi women give birth now they don't ask if it's a boy or girl, only if it is normal.

53% of the Gulf War veterans have serious health problems. And there is an abnormal number of children born to those vets that have some type of birth defects. Another case of Agent Orange, deny any connections.

And it will be getting worse as these kids come home and try to have children. I hold the last 3 presidents completely responsible, including Big Dawg. He continued the bombing in Iraq when he took office. It really has never ended since 1992.

Like you said WTF!!!! Do they not understand air currents, hell they nuked the entire planet with that crap. I doubt it has stayed within the borders of Iraq, morons.

That's why we need to keep shouting and screaming to get these evil morons gone to the Hague. War criminals all.

I'm so tired of having a broken heart.

C'mon Fitz!!!!
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Bushknew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 02:04 PM
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3. Joyce Riley, in her own words É.

http://www.thepowerhour.com/news2/beyondtreason_szymanski.htm


George H. Bush was my hero back then and I remember getting into my flight suit at Kelly Air Force Base, feeling extremely proud before being deployed into Gulf War I while Bush was on TV saying: ÔThis is the beginning of the New World Order.Õ

"Looking back, it was so ironic. I was so enamored with Bush when he actually sold destructive chemicals and weapons to Iraq in 1985 to 1989. Without me knowing, he was responsible for poisoning us over there while, at the same time, I was eating right out of his hand."

Although Riley was never deployed to the Middle East, she remained stateside working as a surgical nurse on one of the militaryÕs C-130 flying hospitals until becoming too ill to continue in December 1991.

"I had to quite flying because I was too sick and went into the reserves," recalls Riley, saying she was diagnosed with a debilitating type disease with MS symptoms, causing extreme pain due to excessive nerve damage. "When I received essentially no help from the military during the next few years, I began searching out alternative cures and medicines since I needed to continue working as a nurse to support myself."

And it wasnÕt until 1995 that RileyÕs life drastically changed, becoming her polar opposite on the other side of the military fence, after being shunned by the Department of Defense (DOD) and the VeteranÕs Administration (VA), both organizations refusing to recognize that her illness was even remotely caused by the vaccines taken in 1991.

"I was furious after I called the DOD and the VA and they wouldnÕt lift a finger," said Riley, adding that it was difficult to get answers because the military never labeled or even told troops what vaccines were being administered. "And I found out to my surprise that if you were in the Reserves or the National Guard, you couldnÕt even use the VA hospitals. That was a huge shock. I felt deceived."

after researching and reading a declassified Senate Report numbered 103.97 from the Veterans affairs Committee, it was the straw that broke the camelÕs back, forcing her to mount an even more aggressive public attack against the military, an attack that is still going on today.

"It changed my life," said Riley, referring to the Senate report. "I had to go public and I have never stopped since the report was beyond belief and appalling. It said, now get this, that during the past 50 years, hundreds of thousands of military personnel have been medically and scientifically experimented upon without their fundamental knowledge or consent. Can you believe that! ItÕs simply disgusting and unacceptable.

"And when I finally realized the higher-ups in the military could care less if the troops lived or died, my loyalty to the military and all it stood for was completely over. I was now on a campaign and mission to get at the truth and help as many people end their suffering caused by a lack of caring, concern and cooperation by the Pentagon. I realized there was a cover-up and I was the only person in 1996 to come forward."
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 02:20 PM
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4. The military has always treated troops as human Guinea Pigs.
Edited on Mon Oct-17-05 02:24 PM by Kurovski
I wonder what concoction they're looking for this time? Operations seem to have been stepped-up in the past twenty years.

Edit: recommended.
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Bushknew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 02:28 PM
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5. Thanks for the recommendations vickiss, Kurovski NT
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 03:38 PM
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6. Kick--n/t
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-17-05 04:57 PM
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8. i just watched this documentary this weekend.
Edited on Mon Oct-17-05 04:57 PM by jonnyblitz
quite the eye opener. I was in Desert Storm and remember taking those bromide pills and getting all the vaccinations and wondered why they weren't recording them in my medical records like they did everything else before that. I don't have any symptoms are far as I can tell. :shrug:
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Bushknew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 11:38 AM
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9. IÕm glad you donÕt have symptoms.

I think itÕs like how some people can take the Anthrax vaccine, or Lariam, Ritalin, Prozac and other drugs and not have deadly side effects like others will. I donÕt know though.

http://www.lariam-larium-side-effects.com

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/nat-gen/2005/oct/11/101106988.html
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