Holy CRAP: O'Reilly "understands we are engaged in World War III"

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

O'REILLY: Well, the problem is that the civilized world will not unite against terrorism. And that's the president's big dilemma. Just like the world stood by and allowed the Third Reich (search) and the Soviets to gain in power, the world is doing the same thing now with Islamic fundamentalism.

The Iraq War would be over if the so-called civilized nations would help stabilize Iraq. Al Qaeda (search) couldn't exist if every nation fought them with the ferocity the USA is employing.

But countries like France, Germany, Russia, China, Japan, scores of others, are content to let America do the heavy lifting. And so President Bush finds himself locked in a brutal war with only Great Britain and a few other countries helping out, and a growing minority of Americans bailing out. So today's speech was an effort to instill a will-to-win into an increasingly distracted world. 9/11 seems like a million miles away. But remember,Bali (search) was only yesterday

"Talking Points" understands we are engaged in World War III, but also understands that millions of Americans simply will not acknowledge that fact. Hard to understand the thinking of people who would surrender to the terrorists in Iraq, who would blame the USA for the terror war in general, but they are out there. The Bush administration has made mistakes in the terror war, no question. But the future is what's important, not the past. Does America have the will to win the war on terror or not? And that's “The Memo.”

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,171555,00.html

[Deja Q]

1. With * telling the world, yet again, God's told him to attack everybody...

O'Really has got a point.

[The Backlash Cometh]

2. We'll never come together to fight WWIII, until we put the corporatist

down first. Who wants to trust any military-industrial nation with their children when someone out there is profiting from the carnage.

[Deja Q]

3. With * telling the world, yet again, God's told him to attack everybody...

O'Really has a point. Maybe not the one he thinks, however.

[esvhicl]

4. Heard it with my own ears

Yup. I listen to the "other side" a lot to gain perspective and see what they're up to.

O'Reilly really said that!

[pauldp]

5. Al Qaeda wouldn't exist...

I the US hadn't created it by funneling billions through the ISI in the first place to fight the Soviets.

The terrorists in Iraq would not exist if we hadn't invaded.

Bushco is doing it's best to make sure WW3 goes on and on.

O'Liar is such a fucking whore.

:banghead:

[Neil Lisst]

6. I gave O'Reilly that Scooby Doo head shake

When I heard O'Reilly make that statement about WWIII, I gave O'Reilly that Scooby Doo head shake.

Whutttt?!!

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[bluedawg12]

7. If #ss wipe had gone in and won there would be no need to blame us

the support is dwindling because after going in on evidence that was not compelling enough to our allies to rise to a level of invasion- we then went in with too few troops and mis-interpolated how many would be needed. never mind that Gen. Shinseki told them.

However, the PNAC wanted to invade I-wreck in 1998- well, before the 9-11 attacks. so, this was a set up all along. But if after all is lied and done the warmongering elite had at least planned for victory than corky-the-porpoise-faced-Faux-boy would not need to make these jingoistic bull sh*t speeches.

end of talking point.


http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm
January 26, 1998

The Honorable William J. Clinton
President of the United States
Washington, DC


Dear Mr. President:

We are writing you because we are convinced that current American policy toward Iraq is not succeeding, and that we may soon face a threat in the Middle East more serious than any we have known since the end of the Cold War. In your upcoming State of the Union Address, you have an opportunity to chart a clear and determined course for meeting this threat. We urge you to seize that opportunity, and to enunciate a new strategy that would secure the interests of the U.S. and our friends and allies around the world. That strategy should aim, above all, at the removal of Saddam Hussein’s regime from power. We stand ready to offer our full support in this difficult but necessary endeavor.

[MrBenchley]

8. It's everybody else in the world's fault that Chimpy is a failure

"Does America have the will to win the war on terror or not?"
Tell us what the plan is, Falafel King....

Funny he didn't urge his imbecilic viewers to rush to the nearest recruiting booth, isn't it?

[TheFarseer]

9. His statements totally ignore the actual situation

I caught a bit of his show when he was talking about this yesterday. His basic argument was we had to attack something to make a statement so who better than Saddam Hussein? That's just idiotic. We already made a powerful statement by toppling the Taliban. I don't understand why this wasn't good enough for people. This was the correct way to start the war on terror. Attacking Iraq was the stupidest possible next step.

Afghanistan was so fundamentally different from Iraq, I can't believe anyone would need this explained, but apparently they do. There was massive opposition ON THE GROUND already at war with the Taliban. All we had to do was bomb them a little and the Northern Alliance did all the heavy lifting. In Iraq, there was no opposition on the ground and the people that did oppose Saddam, have united against us. In Afghanistan, they had a regime that openly embraced Al Queda, Al Queda bases and training camps and Osama. In Iraq, we're debating whether Zarquawi recovered in a hospital there, as if that would make Saddam a terrorist mastermind!!!

His next argument is that EVERYONE believed Saddam had WMDs. We believed what our government told us! Most of us won't make that mistake again. I didn't have any flipping clue if Saddam had WMDs. Why the hell would I?

[global1]

12. You're Right - We Made A Powerful Statement Toppling The Taliban...

if we only would have continued to move swiftly and take out Bin Ladin - we would have cut them off at the neck. Instead * chose to abandon Bin Laden for the sake of his legacy and lie us into a war that was unnecessary.

That's why we are where we are today. Bin Laden, Al Queda, the growing insurgency in Iraq and all the unrest in the ME and Muslim nations is all *'s fault.

[pauldp]

13. Bush Needs Bin Laden

Without a bogeyman the chaos in Iraq would be seen for what it is - sectarian violence that is being exacerbated by the US presence.

The brother of Bush's business partner has prov-en quite valuable in maintaining the nationalistic fervor in this country. Taking out Bin Laden is not in their best interest.

[Warren Stupidity]

10. not to quibble but wouldn't this be WWIV?

Wasn't our noble effort to remake the soviet union into a giant kleptocracy WWIII?

I'm just wondering what these asswipes think that 'victory' in the 'war on terra' consists of? What's the plan? Huh?

[Mr_Spock]

11. LOL - wishful thinking alternate reality spin from the Master of Spin

He is such a spinmeister that he has the unmitigated gaul to call his show the "no spin zone" - Whatever Bill, we've known about your act for years and it won't be long before we convince most everybody else of your insanity. Heck, I'm not sure you even need out help - you just go on talking about WWIII :eyes:

[A HERETIC I AM]

14. The war on terror is as winnable as the war on drugs.....

NOT winnable. Unless you kill every single human on the planet that thinks killing others is a proper method to further an agenda, we will ALWAYS have terrorism.

Billy doesnt get this. But then, we all know he is nothing but a mouthpiece spouting the rethug line.

[pauldp]

15. War on Terror, War on Crime, War on Drugs, War on Poverty....

Let's just call it a WAR ON EVERYBODY!!

[specimenfred1984]

16. Notice How Unbelievable The Propaganda Is Lately?

I think it's a great thing and shows how completely discredited the entire Chimpy admin is.

Propaganda is only effective if there is at least a hint of reality to it. There has to be some sort of "truth" that can be conveyed across different forms of media and appeal to different levels of intellect.

Just blatently lying achieves nothing and hurts propaganda and that is exactly what the Chimpbots are doing now. We are seeing the "last throes" of the Chimpy "dead-enders" to use some of the propagandist's terms.

[sakabatou]

17. "a growing minority of Americans bailing out."

A growing minority? 61% don't like the way Bush is handling the war and want out now! ASSHAT!