Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

On disaster planning

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 04:08 PM
Original message
On disaster planning



1.- The job of evacuation and planning for one is partially the job of the individual, aka family plan, but when you are talking of a large metropolitan area the problems we are seeing are purely based with self evacuation. The roads cannot handle the traffic, and obviously mandatory evacuations must be done by NG, using NG resources, moving 1.5 million people out of the area of concern that don't have the discipline of three Army Divisions, the equivalent, is going to be a nightmare. Hell moving three army divisions is always a nightmare but with those you have the troops who have a certain discipline which makes it easier. (And the transports which should have been used for this... federalize the airport 72 hours before and use army transports to fly people out, starting with those who can't) Buses and two ton trucks can also be used... we have the resources to send a Carrier Battle Group to a tsunami, but we cannot do this in the United States? See the lack of logic here?

2.- This is the important point... they said they would be able to do this at the drop of a hat and this is why DHS was formed... at least this was the major selling point.. to push for DHS and during the elections... so tell me exactly what they have been doing over the last four years? You'd think that planning to evac likely targets of a terra attack (Houston is on any body's secondary list due to the oil production facilities) would be a priority, with a side effect that you could do this in case of Rita coming to visit.... so when you scream at your Congress critters as I have been doing over the last month or so, emphasize this point...

3.- FEMA was not formed by North and Company for Camps,. it was formed by President Carter for disaster use... under Republicans they see the potential for repression, under Democrats it works as intended... point is.. you want the government to be there when a disaster strikes, don't elect Republicans, even for dog catcher.

4.- and fully secondary point, most Americans don't plan ahead anymore because we are in some ways used to being taken care off... damn democrats... when Floyd came in, things were done well... Andrew and Katrina, a whole different story.

5.- This is the time to review your family evac plan... and disaster plan... hell I know tom and I will since he is an essential worker, so I need to fend for myself in case of a disaster (with the birds),
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 04:37 PM
Response to Original message
1. Plan -- Drill
"5.- This is the time to review your family evac plan... and disaster plan... hell I know tom and I will since he is an essential worker, so I need to fend for myself in case of a disaster (with the birds),"

The Red Cross and FEMA do have good plans - customized to each region of the country and it's associated risk factors. FEMA's course is given through local usually with an Adode Acrobat PDF file from your local Office of Emergency Planning (search on the above link).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 04:43 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. Trust me I know how to plan for one
Former Mexican Red Cross paramedic, who also wore the disaster planner hat... and at this point, I hate to say it I don't trust anything put out by FEMA... but as a former emergency worker you apreciate the mistakes as well, don't you?

So what is your worst case scenario of RITA hits with all these people on the road? Mine ain't pretty.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 04:54 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. So do I
but lots of people don't.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 05:11 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. I know many people don't
my nightmare is living on a second floor in an apartment... that thing called mobility.. of them disaster supplies.

Cannot wait to get our own place with a nice garage... to put all this disaster crap and make it portable
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 30th 2024, 07:24 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC