2008: Vice President Hillary Clinton?

[AJH032]

Sorry to post another 2008 thread, but I'm really curious to know if everyone here opposed to a presidential nomination for Hillary Clinton would also be opposed to her as the vice president nominee. Howabout Gore-Clinton or Clark-Clinton? Would DUers, in general, be supportive of this? I'm really curious, thanks.

[AX10]

1. I oppose Hillary for VP too.

[billbuckhead]

3. I'm for Clinton-Clark

The only person who would talk me out of this is Al Gore, a rightful president of the United States.

[AX10]

4. Clark/Sebelius!

[Toots]

31. THE rightful President of the USA

not a rightful President...

[sellitman]

2. No thanks!

LOTS of better choices abound.

Lots!!!!!!!

[Totally Committed]

5. Not me...

No DLC Candidates. Period.

TC

[AJH032]

6. So, if Clark chooses Clinton as his running mate...

you couldn't vote Clark for President?

[Bucky]

10. HA! Good one!

I'll vote for whoever the Democrats nominate. We could nominate Lieberman-Timberlake and I'd vote straight Demo, gladly.

But that said, the DLC ain't doing it for me lately. They've fallen from their Clinton-Nunn heyday.

[Cosmocat]

7. Absolutely ...

This is where I am at ... I think a Clark or Dean with Hillary VP ticket would be a drop dead winner, I mean even with Diebold giving the R's a handicap ...

[BlueStater]

8. Sorry but I'm hoping we can make 2008 the first election in 28 years...

...that doesn't have a Bush or a Clinton on the ballot.

[AJH032]

11. We did

Mondale/Ferraro (1984)
Dukakis/Bentsen (1988)
Gore/Lieberman (2000)
Kerry/Edwards (2004)

...no Clinton or Bush on those tickets. The only time we ran a ticket with a Clinton on it in the last 28 years were the only ones we won.

[AntiCoup2K4]

30. We won 2000 - despite Holy Joe being on the ticket.

Damn the DLC revisionist history gets so deep in here you need hip waders......

[Bucky]

9. Please don't drink the Hillary potion. It's hemlock.

I adore Senator Clinton. I'm probably one of the few DUers to support her on the video game violence issue. But she would lose the election massively--particularly if they put McCain on the ticket. People who don't get that are not really in touch with how noncoastal voters think. She'd win bigger in California and the northeast, get us slaughtered in half a dozen swing states. We'd lose Ohio, Pennsylvania, possibly Maryland and Michigan.

[OneTwentyoNine]

16. Hillary against video game violence but voted for Iraq with REAL killing..

Talk about hypocrisy. Make sure 18 year olds can't shoot someone in a fantasy video game but if they want to sign up they can go kill people in an illegally invaded country for real.

She hasn't got a chance in a trillion of being the next President,why waste the time running Hillary?

[BlueIris]

12. Hillary as the candidate is yucky. Hillary as the V.P. is GENIUS.

Especially if she runs with Kerry, Clark or Gore. (Although that last combo, as many of you may know, would be a damn tough sell.) Why? Assassination. Proof. Ticket. All three of those candidates would face the serious threat of assassination should they run, mainly because of their stated opposition to the war, although each has other liabilities as well. But just as Gore in many ways, served as Clinton's protection from that awful fate, so would Hillary serve those men. Personally, however, I don't like the idea of Hillary being the V.P. I think if she can't be the nom, she should stay where she is, where she's still doing competent work.

[ladylibertee]

13. Edwards/Clinton.Anyone who does not like Hillary is suspect.LOL

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[Q]

15. Why...

...are so many posters PUSHING Hillary for 2008 when it's only 2005? Is this some sort of 'assignment'?

[ladylibertee]

17. HILLARY ! HILLARY ! HILLARY ! Must Vote HILLARY !

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

[howmad1]

24. Could be a vast right wing conspiracy.

I'm not kidding. I think the rethugs would love to have Hillary on a 2008 ticket. Talk about mobilizing the base and fixing an election. They'd kill anybody who got in their way of defeating Clinton. My advice to Gore, Clark, Edwards, et al: Stay away from Hillary, she's poison in 2008.

[CJCRANE]

18. Clark/Clinton

looks like a good pragmatic choice but it depends on the other ticket.

Kerry/Clark would have been a better match against Bush/Cheney for instance.

(Although Kerry/Edwards probably did actually win by a small margin in '05).

[Cosmocat]

19. It is a winner ...

Almost universally ...

Clark a "strong" man, good looking, but incredibly moderate and level headed ... Issues abroad are only going to get worse, and not even McCain brings the international credibility that he would bring ... He would be VERY hard to for R/Cons to paint negatively ...

Hillary would be a STRONG VP candidate ... Again, the connection of having spent 8 years in the white house, a lot of connections with people who got the country back on solid financial standing, and the country will be in a REAL pickle economically when Bushco gets run out ...

[election_2004]

21. Clark doesn't need Clinton

If Clark was nominated and wanted to select a female V.P., then Debbie Stabenow or Kathleen Sebelius would be much smarter choices.

Clark/Stabenow
or
Clark/Sebelius

[election_2004]

22. dupe

[CJCRANE]

29. Pragmatism.

In this instance you also have to look at pragamtic factors like name recognition, fund-raising ability, connections etc.

Clark has the vision but I think Hillary would bring all the benefits of a heavyweight political campaigner.

[election_2004]

33. Another woman

Stabenow and Sebelius would receive instant name recognition by virtue of being the first woman nominated to be a major party vice-presidential running mate in 24 years...consequently, fundraising efforts would go through the roof for either of them.

And if Hillary is such a loyal Democrat, she should be willing to fundraise for and campaign on behalf of Clark even if she's NOT on the ticket.

[lojasmo]

20. Eh. I'd vote for Gore/anybody....

even clinton.

[election_2004]

23. I'd prefer Clark/Feingold

I think Feingold would supplement Clark with a lot of the legislative experience Clark is lacking, while helping to unite moderates and progressives.

[paineinthearse]

25. 2006...2006...2006...2006!

:argh:

Focus on 2006...2006...2006...2006!

[GetTheRightVote]

26. I did not know about Clinton before but after Judge Roberts,

She is starting to look more presidental to me.

:kick:

[win_in_06]

27. I think the VP should be someone who can deliver a red state

Gephardt
Bayh
Reid
Richardson
Warner


...and they should do as much campaigning in that red state as it takes.

[Hawkowl]

28. Indiana is undeliverable

There is not a democrat alive or dead that could deliver Indiana as a blue state. Grew up in northwest Indiana.

[election_2004]

34. No one expects Indiana to go blue

The focus would be on some of the more winnable red states...Florida, Ohio, Arkansas, Virginia, North Carolina, Louisiana, Tenneessee, Colorado, etc.

[WA98296]

32. She gives up our Privacy & votes for war --she's a Republican

What has Hillary done to deserve our support? AT BEST she's a centerist, she started her ideology as a republican . She voted to give Bush the authority to go to war. She doesn't want to pull out currently.

She is in favor of standing shoulder to shoulder with Bill Frist and Newt trying to appeal to the repub votes. They can have her.

She's been all too comfortable sitting back and watching this travesty in virtual silence. She is too worried that she'll soil her political aspirations. Her career is more important to her than we are. Distill that, she doesn't deserve us.

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This is all being said by a FORMER Clinton fan.

[Crunchy Frog]

35. I do not think that she would be a good person to have on the ticket.

This is not meant as an attack, but I think she would be poison on the Dem ticket. There are too many people who literally think she's the anti-Christ. She would lose far more potential voters than she would bring in. I think she's a decent Senator for NY state, and hope she decides to stay there.