How the "We must stay in Iraq" dems should say it....

[Cell Whitman]

Ok, I can see why some think we need to stay and even do more in Iraq..."we broke it" and all that. Fact is, we have made things worse for Iraq. As many warned before the invasion was likely to happen, we have their nation poised for civil war, chaos. We know it didn't have to be this way, the president is inept and the world pays.

Even if you disagree, :) please post how you suggest the Biden's should speak their piece. I think they need to stress the reason they think it...

Here's mine...

"Like Bush's Daddy and as so many of Bush's Daddy's fat cat friends before us, we have to do what we can to clean up the kid's latest mess. Sadly, this time he created a horror for the entire world including the Iraqis. Fact is, we let him do it and for that reason our nation, as a whole, must take responsibility for what we allowed. We didn't keep our child under control. This means we must do what we can to clean up his mess.

Beyond that, we must do what we can to prevent him from doing further damage to the planet. This is going to take an effort from the entire country, including our Republican friends, who must admit with us that we have a national and world security risk for a president. We must do what we can to prevent further damage. I pray we that we can meet the challenge. It will not be easy, the kid has really messed it up this time."

[Infomaniac]

1. Amen

It's time to say that the grown-ups take charge. We need to hold George Bush and the neo-con cabal responsible for the freaking mess that is now Iraq. We cannot allow the repugs to claim this mess as being strong on national security. It's time to start saying that Iraq is arabic for Vietnam.

[Roland99]

2. Every single one them needs to support bringing our troops home

The U.S. presence in Iraq is of NO benefit.

The combat units are running missions that have no goal other than to make our men targets for IEDs, mortars, suicide bombers, and automatic rifle fire.

We have nowhere near enough troops to properly control the country and not even enough to control the major cities.

[stillcool]

3. The problem is....

that we all know why we are there. Anybody who insists on US presence in Iraq is working to insure control of the flow. There are many ways to fix the pottery, but US presence is not one of them.

[Cell Whitman]

4. Juan Cole's 10-Point Plan for U.S. Troop Withdrawal From Iraq

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/08/23/1321214

JUAN COLE: Right, well, I believe that the issues so far has been put in too simplistic a manner. People are saying, well, troops out now or U.S. out now, or we have to stay the course. And it seems to me that we have lots of options besides those two things, both of which, I think, are very dangerous. So, first of all, we learned from Kosovo and Afghanistan that you can accomplish a very great deal by giving close air support to an ally on the ground. So, I agree that U.S. troops should come out of Iraq. First, I think they should come out of the cities, and then ultimately I'd like to see ground forces withdrawn in the main.

And the danger in doing that, of course, is -- and all of my Iraqi friends unanimously insist that if were U.S. troops to withdraw precipitately, there would be a civil war amongst the Sunni Arabs, the Shiites and the Kurds. But it seems to me that could be prevented by giving close air support to the new Iraqi army and to other allied forces on the ground. And I was in Lebanon during the civil war. I have seen what a civil war really is. What's going on in Iraq right now is not really a civil war. It's a kind of low intensity conflict, but in a civil war, you have militias mounting set-piece battles, 2,000 guys on each side, and firing mortars and shooting at one another. And the U.S. could use its air power to prevent that kind of a large scale civil war in the aftermath of the U.S. withdrawal. ....more

[wli]

5. Screw "we must stay in Iraq" dems, they're DINO's & DLC'ers.

They're due for serious primary challenges, not sympathy.

If it's our "duty" to "fix" Iraq, we can do it monetarily, including compensating other countries for their use of peacekeeping forces.

They want us out, and are a sovereign nation. We're furthermore militarily occupying them as an extension of a war of aggression. We have less than zero right to be there; we are morally obligated to withdraw post haste.