Links to info about accusation - Rockefeller, Durbin, Wyden black ops

[peacetalksforall]

Mods - Lock if necessary - I was checking when the first references to this accusation came up. This is related to the 'news' that the above three are being investigated (way after the fact).

I'll go ahead and post some of what I found on the net.

Lock if necessary.


1. This is from a posting for a seminar of the National Intelligence Conference in Feb 2005:

Seminar PE2: Political, Policy and Legal Issues February 8, 09:00-11:30
AbstractThe two most pressing issues in intelligence policy. First, whether the new national intelligence director's powers are properly formulated. It does not appear to be the case at all. The intelligence community is not likely to benefit from another layer of bureaucracy, no matter how well intentioned. Instead, it should be remodeled in the manner the Defense Department was in the Goldwater-Nichols bill, requiring "jointness" in operation, strategy and budgeting. I remain entirely skeptical about whether this necessary result will obtain from the 2004 legislation. Second, the problem of congressional violations of trust. We have seen several horrific instances of security violations by members of the senate in recent years. Sen. Richard Shelby allegedly leaked the fact that we were monitoring Usama bin Laden's cell phone conversations, resulting in the loss of our ability to do so. Second, three Democrats -- Jay Rockefeller, Richard Durbin and Ron Wyden -- apparently leaked details about a "black" satellite program. If the laws that require our secrets be kept secret aren't taken seriously by those who hold the public's trust -- such as Shelby and the "Misty Three" -- -- our system of government will not be able to function as the Constitution says it must. If Congress cannot be trusted with secrets such as these, it cannot provide the essential checks and balances on the Executive we rely on it to perform in order to protect us from a runaway president. Right now, we apparently have a runaway Senate. The Justice Department, and Sen. Frist's office, should be working day and night until this problem is solved, and cooperate to ensure the leakers are punished to the full extent of the law.

INTELCON 2005
National Intelligence Conference and Exposition
"Widening the Intelligence Domain

So this Jed Bidden is burping up old stuff (unless it just happened that our illustrious Justice Dept have decided to retroactively and conveniently investigate the issue).

2. Here is some info about Jed Bidden:


-- "going to war without France is like going deer hunting without an accordion."

These words were spoken by Jed Babbin, a former deputy undersecretary of defense in the first Bush administration, during a 30 January 2003 appearance on the political talk show Hardball. The full comment (offered during the course of a discussion about differences between U.S. and European policy towards Iraq) was: " . . . you know frankly, going to war without France is like going deer hunting without an accordion. You just leave a lot of useless noisy baggage behind."

Since Jed Babbin doesn't currently hold a position in the U.S. government (he served as deputy undersecretary of defense under President George H.W. Bush, the father of the current President, back in late 1980s) and is hardly a household name, this quote has been attributed to several other more prominent political and military figures, including current Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, Persian Gulf War commander General Norman Schwarzkopf, and former presidential candidate Ross Perot.

Claim: Jed Babbin said that "going to war without France is like going deer hunting without an accordion."
Status: True.
Example: :
Snopes
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/babbin.htm

(Note the True.)

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Jed Babbin

Email: [e-mail]

TAS contributing editor Jed Babbin served as a deputy undersecretary of defense in the George H.W. Bush administration. He writes the "Loose Canons" column for TAS Online and often appears as a talking warhead on television and radio. He is the author of Inside the Asylum: Why the UN and Old Europe are Worse Than You Think.
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_author.asp?author_id=11

He is a contributing writer for American Spectator

3. Many of the articles similar to the ones posted are recent.

newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/7/23/131312.shtml - 27k - Jul 23, 2005

www.redstate.org/redhot - 58k - Jul 23, 2005

www.talkshowamerica.com/blog - 49k - Jul 24, 2005

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There's more - I didn't go through it all. The point is that this was either held for an 'opportune moment' or right wing appointees are just settling in to their new jobs.

[Bucky]

1. This issue, I assume, has everything to do with the Rove leak, right?

They did it too. #1 excuse of every caught child.

[peacetalksforall]

2. It's from a locked thread about a writer, Babbin, saying that our three

Senators may be investigated because they leaked critical information about a black ops operation.

The source for this was in Newsmax so the thread was closed.

The event is an old happening, but appears that it may have been ressurected to counter the doo-doo of the Plame leak and troubles with the law that the whouse is encountering.

So, yes. Perhaps. Maybe. Most likely = is is connected.

Game: Gotcha Back - Edition July 2005