Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

We need to discredit Roberts on grounds OTHER than Roe v. Wade

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 08:48 PM
Original message
We need to discredit Roberts on grounds OTHER than Roe v. Wade
If groups opposing Roberts want to be successful they should focus on Roberts' faults OTHER than his explicitly stated desire to strike down Roe v. Wade.

ANY attention brought to the Roe issue will only play into the hands of Roe opponents. They have been mobilizing for over 20 years and if Roberts is seen in terms of being 'one who will overturn Roe' they may be willing to gloss over his other faults.

Also, there are some people who are not rabid advocates of compulsory pregnancy who are ambivalent about abortion. They don't care one way or the other, or they are not sure about the abortion issue. Those people will tend to support Roberts by default if reasons other than Roe are not made known.

If PACs are going to mount a campaign against Roberts - and I sincerely hope they do - they need to focus on his OTHER negatives - negatives that would be considered bad to just about anyone.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 08:58 PM
Response to Original message
1. okay - how about major conflict of interest?
dig up more dirt on the 2000 election, or current afiliations with Iraqi /Afghan wars.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 09:06 PM
Response to Original message
2. The Democratic focus has to be on PRIVACY, not Roe
Does the Constitution GUARANTEE a right of privacy to citizens, Mr. Roberts???? If so, how limited is the right???

If Roberts doesn't acknowledge a broad privacy right, the public will turn against him. We don't even have to mention Roe v Wade.

He's also very vulnerable on environmental laws. Does the Constitution give Congress the power to pass and enforce environmental laws that the states MUST OBEY?????
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 09:09 PM
Response to Original message
3. Let's get those Swift Boat A-holes to Lie About Him
They can swear that he was never in Vietnam and that he is a "fake". They can testify that he never deserved any medals.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kevsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 09:12 PM
Response to Original message
4. You make some valid points.
How about if we just throw everything we can at him and see what sticks? We need every ally we can get on this one, cause this guy really is a neanderthal for all seasons.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 09:18 PM
Response to Original message
5. Actually it would be best
if the Right Wing decided that THEY hate him.

I'm still chuckling about that other thread that is debating whether somebody on Hillary's staff actually told Drudge that Hillary is supporting Roberts...

within a few days..the freepers will cook that into a conspiracy by the Clintons..

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

now if BILL CLINTON will just endorse Roberts, the freepers will demand Roberts name be withdrawn from consideration...

but then we'll get somebody even worse.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 09:21 PM
Response to Original message
6. I'd like to find out
if he had any involvement in the Iran-Contra affair. Also the PAC's need to go after him on the environment anti-discrimination labor laws and deregulation.

This is the area where this guy is going to do the most damage.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 10:08 PM
Response to Original message
7. Pro Corporation anti individual liberty- Also says
we are 'right' in what 'we' are doing in Gitmo-

THAT is recent, and is going to bite us in the butt big time.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 10:15 PM
Response to Original message
8. He counseled Jeb Bush on how to overturn a vote if it couldn't be cooked
This was in Florida in '00. It shows an immoral lack of respect for the very foundation of our government: the right for people to vote and the obligation for others to abide by the results.

He strategized about ways Jeb could "constitutionally" overrule a popular vote for Gore if they weren't successful in stuffing the ballot boxes and finding other ways to steal the election. This strikes at the heart of the issue: the man is too unethical, immoral and anti-pluralist to be on the Supreme Court.

The spirit of the law is the issue, and he's shown complete scorn for it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
randomelement Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 10:24 PM
Response to Original message
9. Judge French Fry

This came up in an earlier thread here - sorry I don't have the link. You can just google "Roberts and french fry" for some interesting reading.

Yep - if you're petty and/or vindictive, this Administration needs you!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 12:48 PM
Response to Reply #9
14. I actually think that decision was correct
But no one read the case but me apparently.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 12:16 AM
Response to Original message
10. pro-segregation, pro-torture, pro-child abuse, pro-destruction of all life
for starters. Would you like me to continue?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 02:28 AM
Response to Original message
11. Explanation of the separation of
powers; why we have them in our Constitution; demonstrate that Roberts' connections to Bush during the 2000 election make him a friend of Bush, erasing that separation; he does not have enough experience - 2 years is not enough; mention his career as a DC insider

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:42 AM
Response to Original message
12. I agree. I have VERY mixed feelings about the abortion issue. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:43 AM
Response to Original message
13. Try the Hedgepeth (French Fry) case and the Gulf War POW case.
Edited on Mon Jul-25-05 10:45 AM by DinahMoeHum
Link:
http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/default.aspx?oid=19277


The first shows that Roberts doesn't give a shit for individual rights, the second shows he doesn't give a shit for our war veterans. He's a slave to the letter of the law who can't consider the spirit of the law. He can't "think outside the box".


:shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri May 03rd 2024, 04:24 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC