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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 12:12 PM
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What about Wilson's Niger report was "crazy"???? Heard on Fox.
Does anybody know what the Republican talking points are now on Wilson's report which was ignored by Bush in his State of the Union speech? I thought it had proven stunningly accurate debunking the Iraq-Niger-yellow-cake claims that eventually made into W's speech DESPITE Wilson's report.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 12:14 PM
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1. It Is Hard To Know, Mr. Fox
What there is that could be so described in Mr. Wilson's investigation and report on the matter. It seems well done and spot on to me....
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Ranec Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 12:14 PM
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2. Wilson is crazy...
Edited on Wed Jul-13-05 12:15 PM by Ranec
see, because his wife was in the CIA.

And he is a crazy liberal!

And he's crazy!

(Just keep shouting!):crazy:
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 12:15 PM
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3. Fox thinks the report was crazy, because it didn't say what they wanted it
to!
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 12:17 PM
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4. Wilson was right, Bush was wrong and likely lied about facts.
Therefore, FOX is handling it with their normal level of integrity: Lie repeatedly and scream it really loud and often.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 12:17 PM
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5. His report has been proven to be true, right?
I don't see where they have any argument.
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 12:37 PM
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7. Yes, that's what I'm asking. With O'Reilly on Fox, though, he usually
twists or magnifies some single actual element of the original and presents that as though it covers the entire. He might take one element which proved ambiguous and claimed that indicated the veracity of the entire. I'm really wondering what he actually did.
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Cogito ergo doleo Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 12:36 PM
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6. The State Department found it accurate
but that sentence is left out of the paragraph in the RNC TPs:

NIGER CONCLUSIONS excerpted from the Report on the U.S. Intelligence Community's Prewar Intelligence Assessments on Iraq (http://intelligence.senate.gov/conclusions.pdf)Page 17

(U) Conclusion 13. The report on the former ambassador's trip to Niger, disseminated in March 2002, did not change any analysts' assessments of the Iraq-Niger uranium deal. For most analysts, the information in the report lent more credibility to the original Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) reports on the uranium deal, but State Department Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR) analysts believed that the report supported their assessment that Niger was unlikely to be willing or able to sell uranium to Iraq.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 12:38 PM
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8. Check out this thread
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 12:41 PM
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9. GOP claimed Wilson report false, but it turned out to be correct
The Wilson report, despite the vicious attacks by the wingies, turned out to be correct. This was a huge embarrassment for Cheney and his minions, who still claimed Saddam tried to buy yellow cake uranium from Niger. Furthermore, the report revealed Cheney's "evidence" of this was a poorly forged letter.

Very embarrassing.
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 12:55 PM
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10. Fantastic! Thanks, all. It's good to remind everyone of this at this time,
Edited on Wed Jul-13-05 01:05 PM by skip fox
too.

But no matter what we do (I keep detailing how the number of calls and confirmations indicates a coordination if not a conspiracy lead by Rove), the prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald, is reputedly first rate and unpersuadable (sp?) by the non-legal; therefore, he'll probably get his indictments (at least two for Rove, one for masterminding the leaks and one for leaking, and one for at least one other "high administrative official"). That is, I'm very hopeful and think I have good cause and am relishing this moment the way I do such other moments (ah, the Watergate Hearings!!!), by learning about everything I can, so I might chomp at the bit of possible, lathered with anticipation, etc., hoping to see the indictments become the begining of public revulsion with many-things neo-conservative, and look about as though just waking up, dig?


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x138946


So why is the president apparently standing behind him? Stalling for him? Trying to get maximal milage out of him until Oct., when the story might be overcome by events like the securing of Iraq, or death of North Korea's dictator, whatever?

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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:27 PM
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11. Well of course he's crazy
Edited on Wed Jul-13-05 01:36 PM by kenny blankenship
Lookit, Pres. Cheney and George W. Christ said there MIGHT be uranium sales from Niger to Saddamistan. Joseph Wilson DEMOCRAT said there wasn't any. See what happened? Joe IMADEMOCRAT Wilson directly contradicted our President! IN A TIME OF WAR!!! So you know right there that he's disloyal. But what about the merits of his crazy charges? Cheney said the might be SOME chance of uranium sales, Wilson said there was NO chance worth speaking of. He dared to overrule the President? He knows better than the President? When you're crazy and disloyal and everybody knows it, it would behoove you to be a little less brazen than THAT. Now I don't have to tell you, you don't go around brazenly gainsaying the President unless you're at least a little crazy. Not in THIS country my friend.

And what's more, Wilson changed from Republican (SO HE SAYS BUT WE AT FOX AREN'T BUYING IT!) to a Democrat. That makes him crazy right there. Of course he could never have been a true Republican. Ronald Wilson Reagan changed from Democrat to a Republican, which should have settled things once and for all. So you would THINK. But nooo, Mr. Joseph Wilson, who shares a name with Reagan, decided to change to a Democrat instead. That makes him the Anti-Ronnie. Could you be any sicker or eevuul than that? Shall the Anti-Ronnie be allowed to contradict our President and drag the whitehouse through the mud pissing on a thousand flags and the graves of a million fallen heroes? Not while this true American patriot-broadcaster draws breath! Not only should he be forced to remove Wilson from his name, (I feel dirty just saying his name now!) he should undergo electroshock for the colossal case of the crazies he obviously has, and his house's foundations should be excavated to find all the bodies of kidnapped children he almost certainly is hiding there.
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 02:51 PM
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12. It's suddenly so clear. Thanks!
Good post, Kenny,

skip
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