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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:29 PM
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Imperial democrats
Are they necessary to win upcoming elections or are truth telling democrats? This is the big split in the party. Which way will democratic voters go?
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dryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:31 PM
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1. Yeah--this is a great way to win ....
elections--let's have a lot of infighting in the Democratic Party!
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:36 PM
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3. I am so weary of that bullshit
And the Republicans watch, laugh, and then take it all.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:31 PM
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2. It's a great debate. My opinion --
If a couple of DINOs getting elected will get us a majority in the Senate, we ought to be all for them.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:37 PM
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4. yeah, the Senate seems to be
the key in returning to any kind of constitutional republic.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:37 PM
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5. I agree!
Better a "DINO" than a neocon nutcase
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dryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:39 PM
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6. Love the cover!
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:39 PM
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7. Who are the DINO candidates we have right now.....
<snip>
DINOs Outshining RINOs
By David Swanson

For more than a decade we've heard about a political animal called the RINO (Republican in Name Only), but most species of RINO have become endangered or at least threatened. Republicans in Congress have learned to close ranks and vote as a block.

On the recent bill restricting the rights of those who would file class action law suits, Republicans in the House voted 229 to 1 in favor of it, and in the Senate 54 to 0, with two not voting. On the latest increase in war spending, Republicans in the House voted 226 to 3 in favor. On the bankruptcy bill, restricting the ability of individuals and families to get out of debt, Senate Republicans backed it 56 to 0, and House Republicans 229 to 0. The RINO is missing in action.

But the same votes point to a population increase for, and increased attention being paid to, the DINO (Democrat in Name Only). Many Democrats are voting like Republicans, and advocacy groups are challenging them on it.

In the class action vote, 147 Democrats and one Independent voted no, but 50 Democrats voted yes, with the Republicans. In the Senate 26 Democrats voted no, but 18 Democrats and one Independent voted with the Republicans.

<more>
<link> http://www.opednews.com/swanson_041805_dinos_v_rinos.htm
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:42 PM
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8. good one
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:46 PM
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9. Not only that, but some candidates would also be DINOs
It's not just the incumbents. Harold Ford out of Tennessee springs immediately to mind.
But like I said, if we're going to get a majority -- and the Senate is the only place we can in 2006 -- we're going to need them.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:14 PM
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10. Truth tellers must try
The lesson of 2004 elections shouldn't be forgotten, which is that an imperial flip flopper losing speaks absolutely nothing for the 49% that voted for him, sends absolutely no message. But a loud truth teller would send a powerful message about 45% of america, even if he did lose. The greater longer term victory will come from hitting Republicans hard, even if this election is lost. This may seem counter intuitive but it is true.
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