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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:21 PM
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alert fox...why was clark fired...coming up 2:20 eastern sunday
they jsut teased it. lovely timing.........bleech
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:23 PM
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1. They are quite worried
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:23 PM
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2. Fox Republican News?
Oh, dear.
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:25 PM
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6. it's the only one with news...cnn/msnbc BOTH DOING BENNIFER
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:24 PM
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3. why are you watching faux?
why does any Dem watch faux? :puke:
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:26 PM
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8. because i don't care about BENNIFER!!
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:24 PM
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4. It's their last best chance
to sink Clark's campaign. If he gets momentum tomorrow, Smirk can start packing. This will be the media's big barrage to try to take Wes out of the race.
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:24 PM
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5. If it's Fox, don't believe it.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:25 PM
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7. they should be reporting: Is bush* a deserter or was he AWOL? n/t
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:26 PM
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9. damn you all to hell
I turn this on and they have Michael Jackson BS. I know it isn't your fault but now I need a shower and in my cold bathroom. God dammit
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:30 PM
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10. i know!!!! this is more jacko than i have seen since it started.
i muted but the pictures and captions are still there.

leave it to fox...just fucking leave it to fox.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:33 PM
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13. It's alright now
I just put a curse on everyone who works at Faux and they will soon have their assholes and mouths switched. Oh, wait, someone beat me to it!
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:35 PM
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16. they are proof of south park's carlton's theory
that if you stuff food up your butt, you crap out your mouth.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:32 PM
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11. This is their chance to get Clark.
Clark is at his weakest before NH. After that his strengths will show better. The Republicans know this is their last chance to get rid of Clark and save Junior. They haven't been attacking Kerry, Edwards, or Dean. We know who Republicans don't want, and that is Clark.

Will the Dems fall for it and give the Republicans what they want?
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:32 PM
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12. No doubt about it, RNC talking points have targeted Clark. Faux complies.
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:33 PM
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14. well that's better...at least we get to see teddy while we wait.
i don't think i've ever seen him without a coat and tie.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:34 PM
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15. The General: Did Clark Fail to Salute (Clark followed Sec of State orders)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4052506/

The General: Did Clark Fail to Salute?
Wes Clark won a war, but ran afoul of his Pentagon masters and lost his job. Here's how. A NEWSWEEK exclusive
By Evan Thomas and T. Trent Gegax
Newsweek
Feb. 2 issue - One of the most damning charges against retired Gen. Wesley Clark has also been the vaguest. After Clark entered the Democratic race last September, Gen. Hugh Shelton, former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters that Clark had been sacked as commander of NATO forces after the 1999 Balkans war because of "integrity and character issues." Shelton has refused to comment further, and Clark's civilian boss, the then Defense Secretary William Cohen, has also remained silent.


The doubts raised by Clark's own bosses have cast an uneasy pall over his presidential candidacy. What really happened? According to a knowledgeable source, Clark ran afoul of Cohen and Shelton by being less than totally forthcoming in morning conference calls during the Kosovo war in the spring of 1999. From his NATO headquarters in Brussels, Clark wanted to wage the war more aggressively, but back in the Pentagon, Cohen and Shelton were more cautious. They would give Clark instructions on, for instance, the scale of the bombing campaign. "Clark would say, 'Uh-huh, gotcha'," says NEWSWEEK's source. But then he would pick up the phone and call Tony Blair and Madeleine ." As Clark knew full well, Blair and Albright were more hawkish than Shelton and Cohen. After talking to the State Department and NATO allies, Clark would have a different set of marching orders, says the source, who has spoken about the matter with both Cohen and Clark. "Then, about 1 o'clock, the Defense Department would hear what Clark was up to, and Cohen and Shelton would be furious."



Was Clark going around them? Not really. As NATO commander, Clark told NEWSWEEK, "I wore two hats." He reported to Washington, but also to America's European allies. And within the U.S. government, he was within his authority to seek guidance from the State Department and certainly from the White House, as well as from his nominal bosses at the Pentagon.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:37 PM
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17. One answer I especially liked:

"I warned the Pentagon. We can't afford a fourth war in the Balkans," Clark says.
"We won the war, they got even and I got to retire early.'
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=20040122/NEWS08/201220341-1/news'

And here's Cohen:

Love this press conference with Sec. Wm. Cohen:
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/May2000/t05022000_t501koso.html
Q: This is General Clarke's last visit to Kosovo today. Any word on how he has performed his job?
Sec Def.: He has done an extraordinary job. General Clarke is one of our most brilliant officers. He undertook a mission that is perhaps one the most complicated and complex and carried it out successfully. As I mentioned in my remarks, this air campaign was the most successful in the history of warfare. We had over 38,000 sorties that were flown. We had only two planes that were shot down and no pilots lost. That is a record that is unparalleled in the history of warfare. So, General Clarke and his entire staff and subordinates and all who participated deserve great credit.
Q: Why is he leaving office, then?
Sec Def.: He is leaving because we have General Ralston who will become the new SACEUR. We are now replacing many of our CINCs throughout the world.
Q: It is not a reflection on his performance?
Sec Def: No reflection at all. He has done an outstanding job as the Commander-in-Chief of U.S. Southern Command, and he did an outstanding job here as EUCOM Commander and also as SACEUR.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:42 PM
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18. "Fair and balanced ..and unafraid"
As always. Yeah, sure!
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:45 PM
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19. I watched the Clark segment
and I think Clark came out well. The honor and integritys issue was because Clark would call Albright and Blair and discuss issues rather than blindly following Shelton and Cohen. It was repeated many times that Clark knows more and is very intelligent. I thought it was a positive segment although I think Fox was trying to make it negative.
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jpgpenn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:53 PM
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22. Thanks for the feedback!
:toast:
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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:46 PM
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20. Gregg Jarrett is such a miserable puke
Every f'ing interview he gives he provides these sarcastic, leading questions that no matter what the guest says, portrays the subject negatively.. unless the topic is on a republican, where he figuratively performs oral sex on the guest.
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:48 PM
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21. I think he was "fired" because he was so successful under the
Clinton administration and this misadministration has been keen on doing everything opposite of Clinton and after 3 friggin' years still get their rocks off blaming him.

I think it was purely political and they say whatever they like, spin it however they want, he was successful and Clinton was successful in Bosnia because of him. Under these crooks, he had to go.
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:53 PM
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23. errr...clinton was president when he was fired
hate to burst your theory..
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 03:01 PM
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24. Thanks for the History lesson. I didn't think that was the case.
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 03:03 PM
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25. And, for the record,
Clinton was upset when he learned the steps that were taken to ensure the "early retirement".
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 03:04 PM
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26. Hate To Break It To YOU... But Lovedems Is Essentially Correct
they tricked Clinton into signing those papers and he was pissed when he found out.
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