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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:58 AM
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After the events of this week, do you feel more hopeful about the future?
Edited on Sat Jun-18-05 10:59 AM by undeterred
I do. I think that momentum is slowly building for us now and it cannot be stopped. Bush cannot hide in the WH and refuse to be accountable forever.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 11:09 AM
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1. No. The most dangerous animal is a cornered one.
Bush/Cheney/Rove will do anything, ANYTHING, to distract us. I, for one don't believe that another 9/11 is out of the question. Bush's Saudi, hand-holding friends would be more than willing to help him out.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 11:26 AM
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2. i'm an optimist
it has to get better. but i won't make the same mistake i did during raygun by saying it can't get worse.:scared:
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Bellamia Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 12:06 PM
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3. Nope........
Just more anticipatory (is that a word?), you know, like waiting for the other shoe to drop. Somethings bound to happen sooner or late, who can know what that is?
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:08 PM
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4. kick!
:hide:
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:21 PM
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5. It's more like I feel optimistic after what DIDN'T happen this week.
But the first reply to this post summed it up for me--they could just be biding their time before the next Big One.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:55 PM
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6. I'll let you know in a week
I think the coming week is very important to see if the DSM story has any traction with the press and Democratic leaders or if it will fade. Bush's approval ratings are falling, so maybe the press will smell blood and start circling.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:16 PM
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9. The press will smell blood? For the past four and a half years,
they've ignored the stench of the BushCo cesspool.

I hope you're right, but I've given up on the American (corporate owned) media. Perhaps they'll turn on BushCo if it starts affecting their bottom line, but it may already be too late.

Bush/Cheney/Rove/DeLay have the entire media so intimidated that a Limbaugh/O'Reilly/Hannity/Coulter utterance is treated like a passage from the bible.

Damn it, I know how negative I sound. But I've seen nothing since January 20th, 2001 to give me any hope for our country.
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CityDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:03 PM
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7. I don't feel any better
Enron -- Cheney Energy Task Force -- 9/11 Commission -- No WMD's in Iraq -- AWOL from TANG -- Abu Garib Prison Abuse -- Unguarded Weapons Caches in Iraq -- Valerie Plame / Joe Wilson .......

I held out hope that each of these massive scandals would bring down AWOL's regime. I will not hold out much hope until I seem him perp walked out of the White House in an orange jumpsuit and leg irons.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:13 PM
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8. No
Far too many problems that go beyond Bush. We've had hearings and mainstream corporate coverage of Abu Graib, 9/11, and the list goes on, and we're at this point in time.

It'll go away. Other stories have had "momentum", and we're still complaining about them today.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:43 PM
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13. We're not complaining, we're MOVING!


This train is moving out of the station and only the TRUTH seekers with energy and a positive spirit need apply to get on board.

Let's roll with the same spirit that got Conyers and MOVEON to get all those awesome signatures!
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:22 PM
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10. Actually, yes.
It is going to take much, much more work, but something is happening.
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Hidden Stillness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:35 PM
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11. Yes, it is Starting to Organize Itself Now
Now, just recently, it feels more like it isn't dependant on a single story they can kill. Now, it is starting to build up and have a cumulative effect--leading to a general opinion that "Bush is such an asshole/such a crook," etc. You just have a whole group of things that you can point to, and it starts to feel like everything. Once it gets to that stage, they can't stop it--now it is a total impression about Bush. The accusations from now on will start to stick, because of it.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:38 PM
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12. Bit by bit, yes.
Maybe I'm a fool, but I'm willing to believe that we can make a run at the house and Senate in 2006. We might not regain power in both houses, but we can render this lame-duck Administration essentially powerless if it's seen that there's political gold to be mined by distancing yourself from Bush, whether you're Dem or Reep.
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 08:46 PM
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14. We Have A LONG Way To Go But
I feel a bit more optimistic. The main reason is the fact that AfterDowningSteet.org is a coalition of groups including veterans and widows, not just a bunch of Democrats. To me, the next milestone will be the 9/24/2005 protest in Washington.

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20050601/the_key_to_impeachment.php
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 08:49 PM
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15. I'll believe it when I see Dubya takes that last ride
On Marine One, then to another plane for his last ride to either a jail cell or to Crawford. Or being led away in handcuffs.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 08:53 PM
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16. the best thing is the poll numbers
that's what's driving all this.
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LeahD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 08:58 PM
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17. Synergy at work....
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 09:03 PM
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18. A slight lift but...
have been dissapointed so many times that I'm real cautious.

Something more than the info that has come out so far will need to surface that will start a snowball down the hill. The RW seems to survive real damning events.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 09:07 PM
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19. the Bushies have a lot of tools at their disposal
terror alerts and the like.

Speaking of terror alerts, I can't even remember the last time there was one. It's weird.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 09:18 PM
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21. I think all future terror alerts should be read as how scared Bush is
that all the evil things he has done are going to finally catch up with him.

:scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 09:08 PM
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20. Slightly more hopeful
Edited on Sat Jun-18-05 09:09 PM by mvd
This Bush maladministration has put a constant dark cloud over my head: just knowing they are there gives me some gloom in my life. And many times, I get anguished and outraged. Anything that can give a little hope, I'll take advantage of.
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 09:18 PM
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22. I'm waiting to see what happens
to Kerry's letter in the senate. Does anyone know how many senators signed it?
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 09:32 PM
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23. I'm glad it started with Conyers and the House
because the momentum will build as it spreads to the Senate. We don't want Bush to think he just has a few people questioning him...
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 11:18 PM
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24. I agree; this is a fortuitous beginning.
Also, undeterred, did you get my PM about Zabasearch? We had a power failure at my place right around the time I sent it so I didn't know if it reached you.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 11:51 PM
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25. Once we get one scandal to "stick"...all the others will fall in line.
And D.S.M. IS sticking. But there are so many other Bushco scandals. Which next...which next?
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