Ron Paul{R} TX :"Neocon Global Govt"

[dbeach]

Ron Paul

NeoCon Global Government

June 13, 2005

"This week Congress will vote on a bill to expand the power of the United Nations beyond the dreams of even the most ardent left-wing, one-world globalists. But this time the UN power grabbers aren’t European liberals; they are American neo-conservatives, who plan to use the UN to implement their own brand of world government.

The “United Nations Reform Act of 2005” masquerades as a bill that will cut US dues to the United Nations by 50% if that organization does not complete a list of 39 reforms. On the surface any measure that threatens to cut funding to the United Nations seems very attractive, but do not be fooled: in this case reform “success” will be worse than failure. The problem is in the supposed reforms themselves-- specifically in the policy changes this bill mandates.

The proposed legislation opens the door for the United Nations to routinely become involved in matters that have never been part of its charter. Specifically, the legislation redefines terrorism very broadly for the UN’s official purposes-- and charges it to take action on behalf of both governments and international organizations.



This new policy is given teeth by creating a “Peacebuilding Commission,” which will serve as the implementing force for the internationalization of what were formerly internal affairs of sovereign nations. This Commission will bring together UN Security Council members, major donors, major troop contributing countries, appropriate United Nations organizations, the World Bank, and the International Monetary Fund among others. This new commission will create the beginning of a global UN army. It will claim the right to intervene in any conflict anywhere on the globe, bringing the World Bank and the IMF formally into the picture as well. It is a complete new world order, but undertaken with the enthusiastic support of many of those who consider themselves among the most strident UN critics. "


http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2005/tst061305.htm

[ellenfl]

1. i saw some of this on c-span tonight.

i was surprised to hear what the republican congressman from texas had to say. is this encouraging?

ellen fl

[dbeach]

2. Paul is a hero..more a Liberterian than a R but a guy

who speaks out against the dangerous and illegal Patsy Act and real natl ID

Most of DC is chickenhawks running and ruining the world

[Eloriel]

3. OMG. OMG!! This is it, this is why they want Bolton. Nominated!!

They don't want to destroy the U.N., they want to make it over, a tool of one-world government. O.M.G.!!!!

I am horrified, just horrified. This HAS to be stopped.

[dbeach]

7. "Elementary my dear Watson ..elementary"

It seems to me that the ruse worked

hate it until ya can manipulate it and own it plus stick it to the taxpayers

did'nt jr say some stuff about using UN troops to quell domestic riots or some such or am I still crashing from the bad acid??

[cliss]

51. Yeah, such Einsteins.

They think they are such geniuses...but just about every clandestine thing they've done has eventually leaked out. Here at the DU, all the dirty laundry has been hung out to dry for the past 5 years.

It's been a little strange to watch these developments.....you see these strange happenings, like the US refusing to participate in the World Court. Bush said he didn't want "foreign judges sentencing our boys overseas". But then later, when the torture stuff came out about Abu Ghraib and Gitmo, then it because CRYSTAL clear what they were doing.

They just planned everything carefully....or so they thought. They're not really that smart. I think we were puzzled for a while, but the sordidness of their actions has always come out and we know them for what they are....

STUPID CRETINOUS THUGS

[meppie-meppie not]

16. that's exactly what just came to my mind and now I feel really sick!

:puke: :scared:

[Pachamama]

41. This is exactly what Michael Ruppert from From the Willderness has been

saying....this is precisely why they want Bolton!

Goddess, does it ever stop?

[DuaneBidoux]

50. A tool of one world government run by America

Edited to add: they're seriously thinking about rescending the 22nd amendment?

Can anyone say "antichrist" and "bush" in one sentance yet?

[dansolo]

52. Wasn't this what Daddy Bush was talking about?

Is this the start of his New World Order?

[dbeach]

56. oldies but goldies

saved this for the right moment..


http://batr.org/gulag/index.html

""We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."
David Rockefeller Baden-Baden, Germany 1991

"We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves and for future generations a new world order, a world where the rule of law, not the rule of the jungle, governs the conduct of nations. When we are successful, and we will be, we have a real chance at this new world order, an order in which a credible United Nations can use its peacekeeping role to fulfill the promise and vision of the U.N.'s founders." President George H. Bush 1991

"Our nation is uniquely endowed to play a creative and decisive role in the new order which is taking form around us."
Henry Kissinger Seattle Post Intelligence 1975

"... it's Bush's baby, even if he shares its popularization with Gorbachev. Forget the Hitler 'new order' root; F.D.R. used the phrase earlier." -- William Safire, in the New York Times (February 1991)"

[Turn CO Blue]

4. Bookmarking/kicking.

[meganmonkey]

5. New world order

I'm scared. Someone hold me please :scared:

[FreedomAngel82]

13. I know what you mean

I need my teddy bear.

[meganmonkey]

30. Here ya go!

:hug:

[drm604]

6. Kicked and Recommended

:kick:

[Media_Lies_Daily]

8. I've been listening to Paul for a while now....he's usually been dead-on.

[dbeach]

9. I confess I'm a fan..

only guy to challenge the patsy act and natl ID with repeated articles and words in the lions den of congress

[porkrind]

10. Will they call it Oceania, Eurasia, or Eastasia?

Down with big brother.

[nadinbrzezinski]

11. Don't forget Goldstein

and Ron I am a fan, have been for a while

[FreedomAngel82]

12. Oh wow!!

This is BIG! Someone should Email this to Malloy and Rhandi Rhodes to talk about on their shows! Maybe this is why Mr. Paul is a republican (along with getting elected of course)? So he can be on the inside.

BIG BIG BIG here: <This new policy is given teeth by creating a “Peacebuilding Commission,” which will serve as the implementing force for the internationalization of what were formerly internal affairs of sovereign nations. This Commission will bring together UN Security Council members, major donors, major troop contributing countries, appropriate United Nations organizations, the World Bank, and the International Monetary Fund among others. This new commission will create the beginning of a global UN army. It will claim the right to intervene in any conflict anywhere on the globe, bringing the World Bank and the IMF formally into the picture as well. It is a complete new world order, but undertaken with the enthusiastic support of many of those who consider themselves among the most strident UN critics. ">

All part of the PNAC plan! They want to be able to do things with military force. They can't as long as the UN is around. I KNEW Bolton's job was to destroy the UN!

[NeoTraitors]

14. Ron Paul is no friend to the left.

However, he is the neocons biggest critic in DC. So for now GO RON PAUL!

[dbeach]

15. Kissinger floated UN troops balloon at Bilderbergers in 1992

da kiss is on the job..the ole globalist and commie suck-up

BTW kiss in Bejing this wk..playing the nice guy role while his neo-con son rummy is war mongering against China while touring the Pacific

http://www.cryptogon.com/2002_12_01_blogarchive.html

Kissinger: In His Own Words :.

"Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful. This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government."

-- Henry Kissinger speaking at Evian, France, May 21, 1992 Bilderburgers meeting. Unbeknownst to Kissinger, his speech was taped by a Swiss delegate to the meeting.
posted by Kevin F at 12:52 AM

[meppie-meppie not]

17. my gawd, Killingers words are just what 9/11 served to do!

did I take the red pill?

[dbeach]

18. yep

now take the blue one its much tastier

blue as in ocean blue as in mountains blue as in truth

[dbeach]

19. don't forget FEMA

which could put thsoe UN troops on the streets

I think Ron Paul is warning us...the buseviks and neo-cons have no intentions of ever surrendering power

http://www.geocities.com/northstarzone/FEMA.html

"THE TRUTH ABOUT F.E.M.A.
If you wanted to take over the United States of America, how would you go about it? Would you not divert our military? Send them to over 140 countries? Sicken them? Break their morale? At the same time, create a financial disaster by way of bubbles: stock market, bond market, real estate? You would create easy credit so that people would incur debt to a point where they could not recover should things go badly. Then you would simply pull the rug on them. You would stop the easy credit and call for re-payment. When the people couldn't repay, they would then lose their houses, cars, etc. The Powers That Be would scoop up the property for pennies on the dollar.
Then you bring in the foreign UN troops to maintain order (less likely to feel compassion for American's in distress than the home grown variety) and VOILA! You now control America. Essentially without a shot being fired. And guess what. The laws that allow this to happen are already in place. FEMA is one of the vehicles that would be used, and it has elaborate powers to run a dictatorship should martial law be declared. Remember the old scenario...create political instability and combine that with economic collapse. This sets the stage for UN troops to enter, since most US forces are now overseas. We are watching this happen right now. "

[meppie-meppie not]

35. I have so much to learn that my farting neurons better get in order

or they'll burst...great link, thnx :-)

[Nothing Without Hope]

20. This sounds very, very scary to me. Recommended. We must learn more. n/t

[dbeach]

22. truths are why we are here

and its scary but enlightening..

they actually think that this US A is their big ole welfare state

they smile and we fools just courtsy and throw em money

pols are corrupt beyond our knowledge but some lights went on tonight..Ron Paul is giving us a very ominous warning and it ain't pretty..

[Nothing Without Hope]

23. And yet he is a co-sponsor of a HORRIBLE bill, HR 1316, "The Fat-Cat Bill"

Read about it here - it will curl your toes. And then please help to get the word out on this bill, which just passed from committee into the full House. Tom DeLay likes it very much. It is the most awesomely, blatantly corrupt bill I have ever seen. They're not even PRETENDING with this one. Nice Orwellian title too "The 527 Fairness Act of 2005."

Read the provisions. They will CH(ILL you:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1847357

If this passes, all US elections will be bought. Period. Legally.

[dbeach]

25. so Paul is part of the problem??

I guess BUT he still stood up agianst the corporats.
MAYBE he is warning us about the UN or maybe he is mocking us? DUNNO
I do know that the govt has been stolen by space invading shape shifting reptiles plus they are all fat rich and wear nazi T-shirts
and extra plus they want or is it demand our tax dolars!!

[Nothing Without Hope]

43. I'm not sure about Paul now. Before I saw his name on HR 1316, I thought

he was definitely a good guy despite being a Republican - in fact a shining example that REAL Republicans, paleo-Republicans, have more in common with us Progressives than with the neocon criminals who stole power. He has a history of taking stands of integrity. He has given stirring speeches, taken politically dangerous stands. I'm really disturbed by his co-sponsorship of HR 1316 and don't know what it means. It just doesn't fit what I thought I knew about him.

So for now, I don't trust him because I don't understand what he is doing with HR 1316. But I don't automatically distrust everything he does either. If he is saying this scary stuff about the UN, I'm damned well going to pay attention to it. It behooves us all for the facts to be searched out on this.

Bolton as the Darth Vader of a globe-spanning UN Imperial Force - yeah, that's a nightmare worth some major effort to prevent.

[genius]

21. Ron Paul is one of the better members of Congress

He often votes with the Democrats, especially on matters of personal liberty.

[redstateblues]

27. His nickname in some circles is Dr. No because he is opposed

to so much of the R agenda

[ngGale]

24. Always thought the NWO was a...

delusion of some young kids over the years. My bad! In reality, this seems to be the case. They are never going to give up power and Bolton is a key player.:scared:

[Tesla]

26. We used to worry about being taken over by Aliens!!!

I don't know which one I would choose, them or NEOCONS!!!

[meppie-meppie not]

37. I sense they are one and the same

:hide:

[meppie-meppie not]

31. NWO? what does that stand for? excuse my ignorance :(

[Vickers]

32. new world order

crazy shit, man

[meppie-meppie not]

33. damn! I should have known that. thnx Vickers!...

no kidding on the "crazy shit" and what's even more frightening is that these NWO guys are serious!:scared:

[Vickers]

34. I gotta tellya, I almost didn't respond to you at all

You were at post 666!!!!!

:spank:

[meppie-meppie not]

36. OMG!!! there has been so much of late freakin me out and now

the debils shadow...eek :hide:

[elehhhhna]

28. Another "Kill yourself or we'll starve you" bill, like NCLB.

[Independent_Liberal]

29. Ron Paul's been doing very good lately.

He's been speaking out. He's also kicking some neocon ass!

[rman]

38. Can't be all that Left if the New Right also wants it..

Maybe it's just that he left out the word "neo" where he shouldn't have; as in "neo-liberal".

[AspenRose]

39. He was ardently against the mandatory mental health testing of

kids in public school. :thumbsup:

Remember, he's in Texas. If anyone knows what Bush is capable of destroying, it'd be someone like Ron Paul.

[dbeach]

40. Mandatory MH screening

for kids !
How about SAME for all neo-conthradals and right swingers and evangelical busheviks
NOW Thats a test!

more pay-offs to big pharma and the legal system
more govt controls from the party who hates big govt if ya know gingrich ,norquist, phil graham
repukes worship at the big govt altar of HATE ALWAYS HAVE ALWAYS WILL.

[dbeach]

45. His Royal Dictator with salute

I know its just another coincidence I know I know

[dbeach]

46. sorry t ry this one

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2005/150605bushnazi.htm

[bicentennial_baby]

42. But his solution is to withdraw from the UN entirely

which is nothing new for the GOP...it's not really an either/or that I have any fucking interest in...The UN should kick the US out and move to Geneva...the world would be better off without us, imho

[PurityOfEssence]

44. Libertarianism is the ultimate "fuck you" adolescent selfishness

Objectivism is the heart of their belief system, and it's based upon fallacy after fallacy. People are not created equal. Situations are not equal. In a complex society, we don't have the time to negotiate everything. Regulation IS society; those who want to deregulate are children or thugs.

Ron Paul gets a lot of press here for disliking the global conquest bent of the current mob, but deep down, he's a selfish thug who HATES the concept of having to do anything for another human being, even though society itself gives him the comforts he so wishes to destroy. He is an ideologue. He is just another example of arrested development, interested motives and EXTREME selfishness.

[Eloriel]

47. And none of that matters re the subject at hand.

I am all for villifying people for what they need villifying for, but I'm also for giving them props when they deserve it. I'd rather have a few more Ron Pauls in Congress on the other side of the aisle than DeLay suck-ups. How 'bout you?

Edited to add something I forgot: I do think, however, that your little rant is one of the best assessments of Libartarianism I've seen. I remember once upon a time encountering some sweet young thang who enthused to me that I should read Ayn Rand and I would see it all so clearly, and become Lib or Repug. I told her I read it, many years ago, and most of us had grown out of that. :D

[slay]

48. Every time I think Republicans are total scum

something like this happens. What a warning!! Finally someone on the right speaking out against the Neocon takeover. Nominated.

[psychopomp]

49. Weird in the light of the "UN tax" supposedly on the agenda at the Bldrbrg

group meeting. You know, I kind of read that stuff with a grain of salt; but now I see this and...:tinfoilhat:



The world in the palm of their hands: Bilderberg 2005
"A much-discussed subject in 2005 at Rottach-Egern was the concept of imposing a direct UN tax on people worldwide through a direct tax on oil at the wellhead. This, in fact, sets a precedent. If enacted, it will be the first time, when a non-governmental agency, read the United Nations, directly benefits from a tax on citizens of free and enslaved nations.

Bilderberger proposal calls for a tiny UN levy at the outset, which the consumer would hardly notice. Jim Tucker of the court-killed Spotlight magazine years ago wrote "establishing the principle that the UN can directly tax citizens of the world is important to Bilderberg. It is another giant step toward world government. Bilderbergers know that publicly promoting a UN tax on all people on Earth would meet with outrage. But they are patient; it first proposed a direct world tax years ago and celebrates the fact that it is now in the public dialogue with little public attention or concern.""
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/052405Estulin/052405estulin.html

[dbeach]

55. most NEVER even heard of the bildies

what a collection of scoundrels..
nice shot of lizard king wolfowitz..the war criminal chikenhawk showing off his new fiefdom credentials

[ailsagirl]

53. It appears that a trickle of repugs are starting to see the light...

I hope that trickle turns into a torrent. I feel like all hell is about to break loose.

:nuke:

[dbeach]

54. hell indeed..

BUT if we all do end up in hell..I would like to state for the record that I am there on a time share only..busheviks and
neo-conthradals can have permanent residence

THEY do deserve the place!

[ailsagirl]

57. I think hell has been the last 4+ years!! n/t

[dbeach]

58. I fear its the preliminary phase of that place

If we do arrive in hell..I am only there on a time share...when my wk is up ..home I go!!

These fascists are beatable but its up to us cuz most of these pols are fat cat rats in every party..and the media is in with them

Still its up to us...good to be awake cuz most americans are sleeping on guard duty..