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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:43 AM
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You CAN spell "Forty three percent" without "DSM"
but it is nice to have around anyway.

The standard excuse right now (that I've seen) is that W is being hurt by the judicial nominees right. While that hasn't helped him any but I think (just a guess) that we are now seeing the real first impact of an internet news story. I don't count Drudge breaking the Lewinsky matter they just gave that to him to establish some credibility and the MSM and RW noise machine picked it right up and ran with it.

This is different.

There is no MSM coverage to speak of and yet it still lives. Conyers has over 200K signatures and I have heard several people, many of whom I had no idea they might be aware of such things, openly talking about it. They also can't understand that it isn't on the news every minute-and I am talking about people on the left right and middle.

43% approval tells me that W's support has fallen back to the outer perimeter and they don't have much further to back up. At this point another terror attack (perish the thought) isn't going to help him either. He is running out of failures to take credit for.

Poll: Bush Approval Rating Hits New Low
http://cbs5.com/topstories/topstories_story_161085615.html
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Spectral Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:45 AM
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1. you think the DSM will be his undoing?
That is, assuming the M$M covers it at some point.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:52 AM
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3. Mmmm I wouldn't bet on it
With MSM in his back pocket and (for now) a Repub House, Senate, and Supreme Court impeachment is a stretch. Now with the midterms that could change. We will see.

Mainly I just think that people are getting this via e-mails and word of mouth (see what happens when them peoples get to talking to one another) and it is pretty hard to explain DSM away. They have tried but mostly by ignoring it and when they do talk about it it is a condescending "Don't believe your own eyes people!!" kind of way.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:54 AM
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4. I see the DSM killing two birds..
BushCo and the corporate media elite. Both seem to be asking for it.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 12:00 PM
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6. Hopefully yes
good point I should have thought of that.
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:48 AM
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2. My personal favorite poll
From the last few weeks is this one from ABC/Wash Post

http://www.pollingreport.com/bush.htm

And my favorite questions?

"Do you feel Bush and the Republican leaders in Congress are making good progress on solving the nation's problems or not?"

61% said NOT making progress.

Asked of those who answered "Not making progress":
"Whose fault is that mainly: Bush and the Republicans, or the Democrats in Congress?"

67% said Bush/Republicans



The tide is turning!
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Spectral Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 12:00 PM
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5. I don't know. Remember the Valerie Plame thing?
I mean nothing has been done on that for a couple of years now.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 12:21 PM
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7. Stunning.
The article said something about people being out of sorts. HA! Bush** and his buddies are still trying to tell us how good things are here and in Iraq. Finally people seem to be feeling the pinch enough to start looking for someone to blame. I don't think that DSM has really hit yet. Maybe where you are where there is a larger population and you get actual news, as slanted as it may be. I think once the DSM gets to places like where I live things will fall apart rapidly and finally for this group. Will it take them down? I don't know if enough people will be willing to push for that or if they will just think they can vote them out and of course unless we get a number that can't be changed easily that will not happen. Some interesting things to wonder about.

Thanks for the article, I had not seen this info yet.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 12:47 PM
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8. CNN just reported 47% -more faux news a la whitehouse spin. nt
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Spectral Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 12:49 PM
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9. 43% to 47%?
It's that dang fuzzy math again
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 01:02 PM
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12. I've noticed that the polling...
seems to have hovered around the 43-47% range for the past month or so. Since most polls seem to round up to the highest point of the margin of error, I'm thinking that his actual approval rating is somewhat lower than is published - like say, the high 30's.

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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 12:55 PM
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10. CNN almost always the outlier (on the high side)
according to this page at Pollkatz.

http://www.pollkatz.homestead.com/files/bushindexprobushtable.htm

Note that he calls this the "Bush bias" (based on his theory that these organizations were biased for Bush), but has recently said that his research actually found that many of the same polling organizations seemed to poll high for Clinton, too.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 01:01 PM
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11. Great site
:thumbsup:
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