I Know 2006 Is More Important Right Now, But Indulge Me (Please):

[Dinger]

What do you think of a Clark/Conyers ticket in '08?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. I'd be dancing in the streets if that happened.

Love 'em both.

[saltpoint]

2. 2006 is sooner, but both it and 2008 are vital. Good question & I'd go

with that ticket without hesitation.

Two very impressive folks if you ask me.

[99Pancakes]

3. Hmmmm

Never thought of that combo. Not bad.....

[The Jacobin]

4. I sure would be happier

If Clark had won just one election.

Just one.

Putting all the hopes on a person who has only ran for one office and didn't even make it out of the primary doesn't make me feel all warm inside.

I know many of you think he is the greatest thing since chocolate chip cookies, but I want a winner -- someone who has actually won before.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. Does having been Supreme Allied Commander of NATO,

and winning a war without losing a single US soldier count? Or is the only acceptable qualification having whored oneself successfully to some part of the electorate by grovelling shamelessly for political contributions and hiring the best PR flacks?

[The Jacobin]

8. No, it doesn't.

Although we have a great history of defending this country in the entire 20th century, I don't think we can out-military the Repugs in the current climate.

John Kerry was an honest-to-God war hero against a draft dodger. You know the rest of the story.

If you want to call winning elections "whor{ing} oneself successfully to some part of the electorate", so be it. All I care about is winning an election -- and Clark hasn't shown the ability to even get out of the first months of the Democratic Primary.

So make him Secretary of State under a winning Democratic politician, but don't risk the next 4 (8) years on an unproven candidate.

[Tom Rinaldo]

13. If he can win the Democratic Primaries next time

I think Clark would do fine in the General Election. It takes great political skills to emerge from the Primaries with the nomination. If your concerns are valid then I very much doubt Clark will accomplish that.

However should he win the most Primaries and secure the nomination than I think Clark will be well positioned for the General Election. Many Republicans and Independents place greater value on Clark's military career than do Democratic primary voters.

So I think this question about Clark's political skills will sort itself out naturally if he does run again. He'll either show he has them or he won't. You know Gore did poorly the first time he ran for President (and didn't get the nomination). Same thing for Bush the Elder.

[eallen]

11. I see your point. But, presidential elections seem to be different...

Who would have dreamed that Kerry would run such a lackluster and disconnected campaign?

[eallen]

12. Second thought: presidential candidates don't run their own elections...

Perhaps when we vote in the primaries, we should spend some time thinking about whom each candidate has hired for that purpose.

On the opposition, there's the interesting question of whether we will be running against Rove in 2008.

[Atman]

6. Conyers is too "weird" for most of America.

Try to think not like a liberal democrat, but as a schmoe from Nebraska, or even your neighbor. Hey, WE are tolerant, but you've gotta be on crack if you think America is going to be ready for a funny-talking black guy in the WH. Let's be realistic...we need to ween America off the hatred and bigotry, and Conyers will only polarize us further.

Remember, women received rights in this country long before blacks did. We're slow learners. Let's not force this on a country who'll be reeling from years of Bushista thuggery.

[autorank]

10. That presumes the Republicans run a candidate in 2008...

They're eating their own already and the public has bypassed CM (corporate media) and come to it's own conclusions, over 50% negative in the job and personal approval ratings. It's just six months into this disaster and it's going to get worse. Afterall, CM will have to do something to retain ratings and readership. When they do that, watch out. The Republicans will be lucky to still have a party.

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[Spectral]

7. Clark/Boxer would be better

But this is an interesting idea

[Dinger]

19. I Like Clark Boxer Too

Choices, Choices . . .

[autorank]

9. Dinger, I'll Indulge you until the end of time...

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Oh yeah: CLARK - CONYERS, a ticket we can all work our asses off for!

[FrenchieCat]

14. As a Black Clarkie.....

Ya know I like that ticket. I also Looooove Charlie Rangel (who always laughs at the Republicans like they are just too fucking crazy!)

But since I am also a woman....a Clark/Boxer or Clark/Sanchez ticket would make me estatic as well.

Hell, with Clark on top...we could actually get a woman Veep into the White House....

[NoPasaran]

15. Clark who?

[wiggs]

16. Fine by me. A lot depends on how Conyers..

..does with election reform and DSM. In the public eye, he could come out of this as a national hero...or as an ineffective pest.

[election_2004]

17. I would prefer Clark/Stabenow....

If Clark is the nominee, he should pick a woman who already has a reputation as a moderate (in other words, NOT Clark/Clinton!!!), and who is from a Midwestern state.

I think the best pick for Clark would be U.S. Senator Debbie Stabenow of Michigan. I was watching her on CSpan the other day, and Stabenow really has that likability factor that would compliment Clark nicely in appealing to the security moms.

Of course, some other choices for Clark could include:

Governor Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas (if she's reelected in '06)
or
Governor Kathleen Babineaux Blanco of Louisiana (if she's reelected in '07)

[LuPeRcALiO]

18. Conyers would be an asset to any ticket

top or bottom. He'd also make a great senator.