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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-05 06:51 PM Original message |
Framing for the presidency: TV Movie is pure pro-McCain propaganda |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-05 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. I decided not to watch it -- I'm watching "Apocalypse Now" instead. |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-05 07:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Well said. That sums up the way I feel. Plus, he's a cunning politician |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-05 07:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. I can no longer trust this man either, |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-05 10:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. And he supported all that terrible neocon legislation too. |
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Skwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-05 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
2. Great post. |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-05 07:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Keating and the S&L scandal. He sold the US taxpayer out on that |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-05 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
3. It's mainly meant to be pro-torture propaganda |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-05 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
4. Going Upriver never got this kind of publicity ... wonder why ? |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-05 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
5. And ANOTHER glowing review of the McCain movie – a WASH POST 2-pager |
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rooboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-05 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
7. He defended his country, but wouldn't defend his wife. |
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Mitt Chovick (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-05 07:59 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Which wife? |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-05 08:48 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. that is uncalled for. Cindy is the better one of the two in that marriage |
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Mr_King (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-05 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
11. Kerry's Story |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-05 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
13. The Wash Post had TWO DIFFERENT REVIEWS, both long and glowng, |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-05 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
14. Yeah, Big Media started campigning for Smirk in early 99 |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-05 10:46 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. A fawning corporate docudrama about Wes Clark or Max Cleland - yeah, |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-05 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
15. Does this mean "A Fly Boy's Story" won't be on CNN 24/7 anymore? |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 01:39 AM Response to Reply #15 |
46. At least they don't show a documentary about W's military service 24/7 |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-05 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
18. Note the emphasis on "faith" in the title of the movie and in the reviews. |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-30-05 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
19. So, how long do you think it will take for this movie to be broadcast |
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Mr_King (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 12:09 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. What I think will happen is.... |
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Protagoras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 11:06 AM Response to Reply #20 |
32. We can hope so. |
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understandinglife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 01:20 PM Response to Reply #20 |
39. "They'll have already torn themselves apart." It is for us to do ... |
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howmad1 (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
21. Gee, I sure hope |
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funflower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
22. Image McCain was a democrat. We'd be hearing about his drinking, |
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BlueManDude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 06:50 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. and his gambling |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 01:49 AM Response to Original message |
23. Kick n/t |
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Bigmack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 02:44 AM Response to Original message |
24. The freepoids hate him... |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 11:24 AM Response to Reply #24 |
35. Oh, I think he's got plenty of time to win them over. Besides, |
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funflower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 12:17 AM Response to Reply #24 |
43. Between McCain and Frist, it'll be Frist for the nomination in 08. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 06:37 AM Response to Original message |
25. This was the obvious start of the 2008 campaign. nt |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 10:43 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. And his famous "deal" on the filibuster, in which the GOP lost nothing and |
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NewYorkerfromMass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
27. Read the New Yorker article.... |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 10:59 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Thanks for this - I couldn't find the full article online, but there is a |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
28. Swift Boat LIARS have already said their piece about McCain |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
30. AZ Republic did a big editorial puff piece on Sunday...yes it's starting. |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
33. I don't have cable television, and I must have heard 10 ads for this |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 11:22 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Very interesting - huge hyping, prime time, big propaganda |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
36. So, anyone else curious about who paid for this movie and the heavy |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 11:42 AM Response to Reply #36 |
50. It was produced by A&E Television Networks, Inc., as shown in this IMDB |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 05:42 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Thanks for this info! So it was done under the A&E aegis. I wonder |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 09:26 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. A&E is a joint venture of The Hearst Corporation, ABC, Inc. and NBC, |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 11:18 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Thank you. So multiple media giants were behind this propaganda |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-05 10:59 AM Response to Reply #56 |
61. The bottom line, though, pure and simple, is ratings. NT |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-03-05 09:26 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Yes, the real world of politicians and their power games has been fused |
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Lowell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
37. Couldn't watch it - walked the dogs instead |
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noonwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
38. I respect McCain, at least he's a free-thinker |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 03:42 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. I have to disagree with you on the idea that "He votes his conscience." |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
41. kick n/t |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-31-05 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
42. kick - I believe this is significant and we should pay attention n/t |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 12:50 AM Response to Original message |
44. kick n/t |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 01:23 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Thanks for your public service, NWH! |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 01:52 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Great information, FrenchieCat! And I love your line: |
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devinsgram (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 06:45 AM Response to Original message |
48. I saw this advertised and could not watch it. |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
49. I believe that defeating John McCain will be a great challenge |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
51. kick n/t |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
52. Eh...there was the same worry about John Glenn and "The Right Stuff" |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-01-05 07:45 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. I had forgotten about that. This one strikes me as more sinister, though |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-05 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
57. kick n/t |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-05 12:57 AM Response to Original message |
58. Didn't see it or care to but what makes me mad |
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paineinthearse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-05 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
59. I missed this, but am sure it will be rerun |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-05 10:57 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Yes, that's part of the problem. It's massive free publicity and, really, |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-02-05 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
62. Related - I've been noticing how very often TV commentary on an issue |
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