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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:35 AM
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Monica Crowley MSNBC doesn't understand why the world hates Bush


From her blog....http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6969478/____________________________________________________________________________________
Last week, I spent a few days in London giving a series of lectures on American foreign policy.

My audiences were American and generally supportive of what the Bush administration is doing in fighting terror and spreading freedom.

The Europeans, on the other hand, were a different story. The British media were full of stories pounding the president and his policies. Since I couldn't get MSNBC in London, I was stuck watching the BBC, with its nightly onslaught against the U.S.

The day I left London, I saw a screaming headline in one of the big British papers, "President Bush's failures."

By the end of my trip, I was drowning in anti-Americanism.

The British and European press can say whatever they want about us— but the truth is that without the United States, the world would be a far more dangerous place. Thanks to the leadership of the Bush administration, members of Al Qaeda are being hunted, captured and killed. 50 million people have been liberated in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Libya, long a terrorist state, did not want to face America's wrath, and offered up a preemptive surrender of its WMD programs. Syria is leaving Lebanon. Democratic elections in some form or another have happened in places they were never imagined possible— Afghanistan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia— and pressure for them is building in Egypt and Syria.

American pressure on the international community is leading it to deal with the nuclear programs in Iran and North Korea. This is all because of American leadership, not European leadership.

Maybe the Europeans suffer from superpower envy. Maybe it's just a difference in political values and approach. But whatever the reason for their anti-Americanism, deep down they know that they would not want a world without the United States. Because if the Europeans were threatened in any way, the first call they would place would be to Washington.

And guess who would be there, right away, to lend a helping hand?

I know the answer... and you know something? So do they.

_____________________________________________________________________________________

her e-mail MCrowley@MSNBC.com
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:37 AM
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1. She must be dislexic...
"My audiences were American and generally supportive of what the Bush administration is doing in fighting terror and spreading freedom."

Isn't it the other way around?...

"...what the Bush administration is doing in spreading terror and fighting freedom."




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AValdoux Donating Member (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:00 PM
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35. she answered her own question
"The British and European press can say whatever they want about us"

The people who make an effort to get their news from somewhere other than US television are usually anti-bush.


AValdoux
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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:48 PM
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79. Twice...
"Since I couldn't get MSNBC in London, I was stuck..."

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meppie-meppie not Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 03:26 PM
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64. naw, she's just blonde
;)
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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 02:38 AM
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84. She's also a plagiarist according to Kos and Slate -
even though she pumps her warm & fuzzy relationship w/Nixon, she just couldn't find her own words to write @ the anniversary of his retreat from the WH ... so she steals them from other writers. Wall Street Journal had to print an editor's note saying they wouldn't have printed one of article's if they had known ...

http://www.newshounds.us/2004/12/22/is_former_fox_analyst_monica_crowley_a_plagiarist.php
or
http://www.themediadrop.com/archives/003241.php

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Is Former FOX Analyst Monica Crowley A Plagiarist?

The alleged plagiarism was in a Wall Street Journal editorial by Crowley. According to Slate, four days later, the Journal printed an editor's note saying,

There are striking similarities in phraseology between "The Day Richard Nixon Said Goodbye," an editorial feature Monday by Monica Crowley, and a 1988 article by Paul Johnson in Commentary magazine ... Had we known of the parallels, we would not have published the article.

Both Kos and Slate provide several excerpts of both Johnson and Crowley and the similarities are almost word for word. Crowley claimed she never read the Johnson article, a statement that seems even less likely than the fact that the similarities were accidental. Apparently, the incident received very little publicity for some reason.

So did the "Real Journalism" network for "morals voters," the same network that Chairman and CEO Roger Ailes said had never retracted a story, bother to investigate the incident? Or did they sweep it under the rug like the accusations against Bill O'Reilly?

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From 1990 until 1994, she served as foreign policy assistant to President Richard Nixon and wrote two books, Nixon Off the Record and Nixon in Winter. She holds a doctorate in international relations from Columbia University, although you wouldn't think so from the poster's quotes!

Yeah, I loathe this Malkin/Coulter wannabe - been tracking her since MSNBC gave her a trial spin on air. She's more dangerous than either Malkin or Coulter, IMO. Since she applies a saner approach to her delivery, sheeple would be more inclined to believe the tripe she spouts. And, emails to the network have done nothing but make them send her to a voice coach (or something). That breathy, phone-sex operator/Fox newschick style of speaking she came in the door w/has been toned down considerably! Still doesn't change her profession, though - she's still a breathy, phone-sex operator/Fox newschick!




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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:37 AM
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2. Bleach
Obviously, bleaching your hair is bad for your brain.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:40 AM
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9. Actually that is her only qualification
at least it got her on Fox News and got that ball rolling.

Oh her other qualification is that she "worked with President Nixon"- I think she answered his phone or something.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:55 AM
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27. Wasn't she the dog walker?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:57 AM
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32. No
That would a bit too confusing.

:spank::evilgrin:
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 04:36 AM
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88. I love that movie.
Have seen it about 784398438572395784 times. Never tire of it.
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DemBeans Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:58 AM
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34. I read her book on Nixon
At least her first one - I'm not sure she actually got around to writing the planned follow-up.

It was pathetic, more than anything - she was a college student working for him as an intern, and according to her, he spent hours upon hours "educating" her on foreign policy and politics. I can picture the elderly Nixon, shorn of any public influence or respect, spending his final days preaching to a college kid.

What's interesting, and what she has apparently spent little of her analytical "powers" on, is that had Nixon lived I think he would have opposed this miadventure in Iraq heart and soul. He might have been a crook, but he understood the ME far better than this crew currently in charge. I've read many of his books, and I think based on my reading he'd be horrified at the current situation.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:06 PM
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40. I figured it had to be something like that
The first time I heard it I thought "Damn that's messed up using a dead man on your resume" and then something about the timeline didn't match up. She didn't (on Fox) claim to have been in the Nixon White House but they way they always introduced her it was pretty clear that that was what they were trying to get across.

No of course not Nixon wouldn't have touched attacking Iraq with a ten foot pole.
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DemBeans Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:12 PM
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44. if I remember correctly...
Edited on Fri May-27-05 12:13 PM by DemBeans
She interned for him for about a year, maybe a little more, up to his death. She's certainly not old enough to have been in the Nixon WH, so I'm surprised they would infer that.

The book, I have to say, was interesting in that (if she's to be believed) he had some funny observations about the 1992 election. He didn't seem to think highly of Bush I, liked Clinton (or at least admired his political skills), and despised Hillary.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 05:37 PM
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70. It would have been interesting had he lived till 2004
Edited on Fri May-27-05 05:38 PM by karynnj
to know his reactions. He and Colson supposedly apologized to Senator Kerry in the 1990s, but it would be an interesting dilemma for him.

-Kerry, with the Kennedyesqe background he hated and of course him anti war background, but with good diplomatic abilities, intelligence and commitment to service. Nixon thought he did a superb job before the SFRC. Through the FBI, he knew that in addition to speaking to end the war, Kerry, unlike most anti-war activists was urging people to stay in the system and fight Nixon by defeating him electorally and that when the VVAW became too radical he was one of the co-founders of Vietnam Veterans of America. (Also, the sardonic side of Nixon might perversely enjoy seeing Kerry in the position of finding a way out of Iraq, while protesters demand getting out immediately.)

-Bush, was also an over-privileged person who had everything handed to him. Nixon, who started much poorer, might resent Bush spending his first 40 years as an irresponsible drunk. His lack of curiosity and his lack of interest in government and policy might leave them few areas in common. But, he didn't lead a successful protest movement.

His biggest problem would have been that one would have to win.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 09:09 AM
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91. "He spent hours upon hours "educating" her on foreign policy and politics"
I can just hear Nixon in my mind eye say, just a little lower and a little slower and bigger circles.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:04 PM
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38. She has such beautiful blonde hair...why does she dye her roots?
If she doesn't know why the world hates shrub, she either lives in a cave with no electricity or is dumb as a box of rocks.

"Gee...why does the world hate George Bush? I don't get it."

Maybe because he has killed thousands of innocent people, invaded and occupied a country that was no threat to us, is pissing away money like water, doesn't give a shit about people besides his cronies, and basically is a lying, cheating crook.

Any questions, dumbass?
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 07:58 PM
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73. LMAO! n/t
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:38 AM
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3. How do they find them that dumb??!! nt
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:38 AM
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4. Yep, I'm sure her " audiences were American and generally supportive of
what the Bush administration is doing in fighting terror and spreading freedom."

Unfortunately, the rest of the world doesn't give a rat's ass about her.
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aintitfunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:38 AM
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5. She must be a moron (n/t)
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:42 AM
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14. Feasible explanation n/t
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:39 AM
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6. Once again I find myself saying.....
you couldn't make this sh** up!!!

Is she completely dillusional?????
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:44 AM
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15. Its gone airborne, Ebolaesque, contagious and rapidily spreading..
its everywhere...but there is still hope we find the answers for the cure...Truth, Sanity, Reason, and Common Sense.....

Come, we go eat.....
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:39 AM
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7. What a pretty toadie.
Do you think there's any correlation between the RW media using attractive white female talking heads to reach their target audience of white males? Or is it simply a case of peroxide poisoning that distorts their worldview?
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:40 AM
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8. The funny thing: things often happen in spite of someone, not because of
them. Think about that Monica
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:41 AM
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10. Oh shut up you idiot bush* apologist. If the headline read "president
Edited on Fri May-27-05 11:41 AM by fob
bush*s FAILURES", you weren't "drowning in anti-Americanism" you fucking pusbag, you were wallowing in "the truth" which could also be called anti-bushism*.

And nice revisionist history on Libya. Way to discount the last 10 plus years the Brits et al spent ENGAGING Libya through diplomacy you fucking wanker.

Now just piss off.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 01:42 AM
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81. She can't handle the truth. That's the problem with most of the RW ditzos.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:41 AM
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11. Monica has been drinking the kool-aid for
so long, she actually believes the propaganda she spews. She ought to get out more. Obviously that trip was an eye-opener, even if she couldn't quite comprehend that yes, the world does hate the BFEE.

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lady lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:51 AM
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23. Exactly.
Not drinking - marinating in the kool-aid. Maybe if she could stay in Europe for a year she could start to dry out.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:42 AM
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12. Who gave that dime-a-dozen bimbo the soap box?
What's the deal with this? Why is that witless person's opinion so valuable that it needs to be broadcast?
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:49 AM
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18. that why I left her e-mail
She needs a re-education camp for deprogramming of the politically ignorant.

such as the dowing street memo.
election fraud,
lost 9 billion dollars lost in Iraq
also Msnbc needs to know they hired a fox nut.(they know I know)
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:42 AM
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13. She confuses Bush with the United States.
She can't counter the Bush criticism with anything positive, so she segues into "It must be anti-Americanism". Puffbrain.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:44 AM
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16. I agree with her on one point -
if the Europeans were threatened they would call Washington for help. But it would be IN SPITE of *. Our reputation in the world has slipped considerably because of this adminstration's bully tactics, that's why there's so much anti-Americanism.

Ms. Crowley fails to understand this. The United States is what it is because of the past, not because of the present. With any luck, it will be able to withstand the damage done by this administration.

So Ms. Crowley - you can take your neocon talking points and, well, you know.

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:46 AM
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17. where do they get people this stupid?
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la la Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:51 AM
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22. her speech
style irritates me. She speaks as though she's afraid that her false teeth will slip. I think she needs to get her hot glue gun out and glue those choppers into place for good.

:dunce:
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:49 AM
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19. white Ho
Maybe she should go cover some of those "democratic elections" in Saudi Arabia....
:grr:
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rwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:50 AM
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20. Who in the hell
would want to listen to her lecture on foreign policy?
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:56 AM
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31. Hell indeed...
...they thought it was by Alistair Crowley. :hide:
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:50 AM
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21. I know the answer, too.
Monica Crowley has a mind untroubled by thought.

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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:53 AM
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24. my e-mail to Crowley
Dr. Crowley:

People despised your previous boss Richard Nixon, too. What do Nixon and Bush have in common? Subversion of the Constitution of the United States of America. Treason.

You sure know how to pick 'em.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:54 AM
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25. She's "the Blonde in the Bubble"
A perfect blend of knowledge, strong opinion and charm, Monica Crowley brings a new dynamism to 77WABC’s line-up. Monica began her career in radio on 77WABC as a frequent guest on the Batchelor and Alexander Show, where she captured the interest of 77WABC listeners and management alike. An intelligent, articulate woman, Crowley is a rare find in the talk radio world. When war with Iraq was imminent, she was given the 6-7pm time slot.

Look where she came from (see bio below): she's been in the thick of the Conservative Media Environment for decades, so this may have been the first time she was actually outside their little delusional bubble long enough to actually pay attention to outside news.

If someone this ignorant can get a doctorate in international affairs from Columbia, it should stand as a smoking gun against the conservative claim of discrimination in accademia.


http://www.monicacrowley.org/biography.html
Upon its launch in 1996, Crowley joined the Fox News Channel, where she continues to serve as a political and international affairs analyst. She holds two Masters degrees and a Ph.D. in international affairs from Columbia University. Crowley also worked as a Foreign Policy Assistant to former President Richard Nixon from 1990 until his death in 1994.

Crowley's experience with Nixon prompted her to write two best-selling books, Nixon off the Record: His Candid Commentary on People and Politics and Nixon in Winter. She has also written for The New Yorker, The Wall Street Journal, The Los Angeles Times, The Baltimore Sun and The New York Post.

Crowley has been a guest on the major TV and cable news channels, including ABC, NBC, FOX and HBO and worked as a commentator on National Public Radio’s Morning Edition for 4 years. This broadcast luminary will be shining for a long time to come.
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Chicago1 Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:55 AM
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26. Miss BLOND STUPID MONICA marches in lockstep with the criminal regime
Firstly, Monica has blond issues (yes that's not nice but TRUE) and secondly, she sits there and doesn't ask any questions and just spews the bull that this bunch believes. MSRNC SHOULD FIRE HER!!!!

Waiting for the IMPEACHMENT WHILE THE SCANDALS KEEP UNFOLDING
America's Work Stories
http://usaworkstories.blogspot.com
usaworkstories@aol.com
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:56 AM
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28. maybe if she'd spend less time practicing that fake smile/grimace
in her mirror, and more time using the muscles between her ears, she could figure it out. Or maybe not...
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:56 AM
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29. Let's take it, point by point....
Who is it that is hunting Al Qaeda?

Ask Afghans & Iraqui's if they feel liberated now? If the complete destruction of their countries was worth it?

So what if Libya gave up its WMD...what about N. Korea, or Iran...you know, real threats, axis of evil type countries?

Democratic elections my ass! We said Syria had to be out of Lebanon because a country could not have a democratic election while being occupied by a foreign force. So what are we doing in Iraq? Catering a big wedding? And let's not even get started on our own suspicious election!

Aren't the Euros the ones that are sitting down at a table with the Iranians? Believe me, it isn't because GWB is threatening them to do it. As for North Korea, I recall reading that we refused to meet with them. No diplomacy, just idle threats and rhetoric.

The only threat that Euros would feel now would be from the U.S. And what with our imperial overreach, we wouldn't have the military strength to bitch slap N. Korea, even if we ever get out of the Iraq/Afghanistan quagmire. Oh sure, maybe you say we could just bomb the N. Koreans into the stone age, but maybe they could do the same to us. We allowed them to develop their nuclear technology while we were supposedly chasing Bin Laden and invading countries that couldn't muster much resistance.

Anyone care to add to all this?
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:56 AM
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30. with beforehand apologies to retards, the woman is a fucking retard.
it is with utter increduality that any adult who so sees and hears things that run counter to their previous opinions would not even question the basis for their own opinons and instead attack those with differing opinions before investigating why others hold a counter view.

welcome to the fascism of the american mind.

btw: as to the shit-for-brains talking head monica "i gave head to get my job" crowley; europeans do like americans, they just think our government has been acting nuts for 4 plus years.

the complete banality of this woman's remarks makes any thinking person rend their garments in dispair.

oh, that edward r murrow rise from the grave to smight such bullshit.
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:58 AM
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33. "drowning in anti-Americanism" ??!
Is this woman for REAL? She looks and sounds like KKKarl Rove's own injection-molded, pre-programmed Barbie doll.

No, people outside of the US have a free press and they actually get to hear about the disastrous consequences of Bush's lies. Has Miss Prom Queen ever really listened to the news on BBC? We get BBC radio news here in Houston. (:headbang:KPFT, Pacifica Station!!!:headbang:) The interviewers are well-read and sophisticated people who actually challenge their interviewees when the interviewees start spouting baloney.

They actually report on tough topics that make the government uncomfortable and cast officials in a bad light. That is what the press is supposed to do. How refreshing!

The British and Europeans are not anti-American, just anti-Bush.

From a personal perspective, I know I am not anti-American. I LOVE America enough to protest and speak out against Bush and his murderous cronies every chance I get. I have a lot of other things I would rather be doing. But my country is going down the tubes and I want to save it for my children.

God bless the British and European press for keeping us informed and keeping us supplied with the political ammunition we need to bring Bushco down.:patriot:

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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:05 PM
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39. Well said, Texas Lawyer.....
you can add the CBC to the list of foreign press doing their job, after their 5th Estate program on Cheney
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:03 PM
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36. Hey everybody............ "Where is the Love?"
her orginal title to this piece
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meppie-meppie not Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 03:28 PM
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65. someone should have told her it was thrown out with the bleach water
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:03 PM
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37. a response
Edited on Fri May-27-05 12:05 PM by realpolitik
Your portrayal of America as staunch defender of the world in general, and Europe in particular reeks of nostalgia.
Compare that with the reality of the white house response immediately post tsunami.

The penury was an international scandal, and still is. Just because you can't hear it from the hollows of the echo chamber that is
the domestic news stream does not reduce its importance to the average American.

Compare that with our rush to develop a nuke 'bunker buster' ( a task with the same likelihood of success as building a cartier watch that will keep perfect time after being thrust through a brick at mach 2).
Compare that to the plans to weaponize near space.
Compare that with Abu Ghraib.
America the beautiful has already become the great satan the Iranians once accused it of being. But our soi disant media can only stare moistly at the flag, and polish the choicest turds of Karl Rove.

Your examples? Libya-- a state just as idiosyncratic as its leader. Free elections in Iraq and Afghanistan-- you are not paying much attention to what is on the ground there. Syria and Lebanon-- I think that this is about the only bright spot, and it is not certain what shape Lebanon will have, and whether we will occupy it if we think the new shape not to our liking.

Our policy in the region could not have been written by an absurdist.
Absurdism paradoxically requires more points of reference to the real world than our
foreign policy.

Why can't you even *try* to attempt
old fashioned journalistic objectivity? And by that, I do not mean the journalism of William Randolph Hearst.
My disgust for this blog entry is almost emesis inducing. Wake up and do your frigging job, already.
That job involves maybe thinking of what the consequences of the world's ever increasing hatred and mistrust might have on the lives of Joe and Jane Smith, of Flyoverville America, instead of waxing nostalgic about what America used to stand for back when it was a democracy.

If you can't do that, perhaps you should stick to stories of such import as M. Jackson, T. Shiavo, and the Law and Order tv show.

RealP
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:06 PM
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41. She's the reason I don't watch Coast to Coast
Can't stand her voice, not to mention her views. (Disclaimer: didn't read what she blogged and don't care to.)

Now, if MSNBC had half a brain, they would put up no less than three one-hour daily shows with Liberal hosts. Maybe re-hire Bill Press and Phil Donohue. Stop with this BULLSHIT of providing balance by always pitting a Conservative viewpoint with a Liberal as in C2C. Why doesn't that happen with Scarborough? Hmmm????
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:08 PM
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42. If she'd really want to understand why...
Edited on Fri May-27-05 12:14 PM by Amonester
On edit: re-phrasing...

"My audiences were American and generally supportive of what the Bush administration is doing in fighting terror and spreading freedom."

... she'd just have to re-write (and re-read) this line as:

"My audiences were not American and generally un-supportive of what the Bush administration is doing in fighting freedom and spreading terror."

Also:

"But whatever the reason for their anti-Americanism, deep down they know that they would not want a world without the United States."

Into:

"But now that I asked them to tell me the reason for their anti-Americanism, deep down they know that they do not want a world with the United States' PNACers greedy liars."

Finally:

"Because if the Europeans were threatened in any way, the first call they would place would be to Washington."

"Because the Europeans were threatened before, and the last call they would place would be to Washington." (Because they are able to defend themselves against criminal cavemen from the other side of the world, and competent enough to fight terror without alienating a billion Muslims at the same time...)


:sarcasm:
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:17 PM
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47. Merci bien, Amonester....
that last part was especially poignant...the rest of the world, and half of America, would rise up if the Euros were threatened...meanwhile, BushCo couldn't be bothered to lift a finger when it's own country was under attack, as the DPB warned them a month before 9/11...why would they defend Europe?
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:26 PM
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52. I wonder if she even knows...
... anything about the criminal project that the PNAC is?

I'd bet she's clueless about "their" criminal ambitions to "dominate" the world... including Europe, of course... and that the question is:

when?

:scared:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:11 PM
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43. "I was stuck watching the BBC"
Oh the horror! Monica having to see what real journalism looks like! It must have been just the worst thing ever to see reportage backed up by facts.

If they remake "A Clockwork Orange," I think Monica should play Alex and be forced to watch the BBC during her treatment at Ludovico.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:14 PM
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45. Maybe she is a dimwitted idiot?
Too bad no one showed her some dead iraqi children images... Maybe she would "GET IT" if she had to carry a disfigured Iraqi child home with her in first class... What a troglodyte.

Europeans suffer from "Super Power envy"
What a load of shit.

Maybe they have access to real media and can read????

Duh.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:16 PM
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46. Did you see that bitch on the air today?
She was unbelievably rude to one of her guests in a 'discussion' about Guantanamo Bay and prisoner abuse. Crowley talked over the female guest, interrupted every two seconds, contradicted her, and then cut her off. It was one of the most appalling displays of rudeness that I have seen on cable, and that's saying a lot. Here's where to comment on the show and the Feminazi's rudeness:

Connected@MSNBC.com

A little explanation: Feminazi is the word I use for the blonde bimbos who are rabidly right wing, like Crowley and Mann Coulter and Laura Ingraham.
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:22 PM
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49. This is exactly why I stopped watching....
these programs years ago...before BushCo came along...they interrupt people constantly, then there are 2 or 3 people talking at the same time, absolutely nothing gets accomplished...but of course, that is their ultimate goal..they think they are showing their viewers how evil the "enemy" is, that being anyone who is not in lockstep with BushCo
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 02:20 PM
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55. you forgot malkin! in a "you forgot poland" kind a way
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tex-wyo-dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:18 PM
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48. So, let me get this right...
43% (probably lower) of the American people, who have taken in way too much kool-aid, are right and the rest of the people in the world are wrong?....whatever.

Face it, * is the most hated American presidentie the world has ever known.
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:28 PM
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53. That's right, tex-wyo-dem, that's been my point....
for awhile now...we have the vast majority of the world behind us...let's use it to take back our country and the world...with massive boycotts! The only thing these people understand is money.

www.buyblue.org

Defend the democratically-elected government of Venezuela, while we're at it...

www.handsoffvenezuela.org
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:24 PM
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50. I wrote her a little note...
It's really too bad that as a journalist instead of questioning the core reason as to why, when, how the European press and citizenry dislike President Bush and American foreign policy you white wash it and justify it away.

You are a journalist. When working you are not a republican, a democrat, or even an American. You are a seeker of truth. Find the real question and once asked, find the meaning behind the answer. If at the end you come to the same conclusion, then be satisfied with the journey and set off on a new one.

Unfortunately you've been a republican mouthpiece for so long that your career and integrity towards unbiased journalism is unsalvageable. Too bad.

Jeremy, Seattle, WA
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:25 PM
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51. I had to email this Bimbo...
Here is my email:

As I read your BLOG regarding how amazed you are of the mistrust the Europeans have regarding the United States...

I realized that you were being treated poorly by being forced to watch REAL NEWS broadcasted by the BBC. Ms. Crowley... Where the hell have you been living for the past five years? Under a rock?

This president is now the terrorist, the rest of the world knows it and they, as well as any of us who watch the Washington political machine spin out the lies about, well, let's see - EVERYTHING are amazed by people like you...

Where did MSNBC find you? Shouldn't you be over at Faux?


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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 02:06 PM
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54. My email to her
So you're perplexed by what you see as anti-American attitudes in Europe.

Surely, as a newsperson you must recall that the world (including Europe) rallied around America after the horrific tragedy of 9/11.

How did your beloved Bush Administration respond to this outpouring of world support and compassion? They cynically tried to exploit that tragedy by using it as justification to enact their pre-9/11 plans to invade Iraq. They lied to and tried to bully other countries into supporting their aggression.

Most of Europe saw through the Administration's BS and had the courage to resist its arm twisting. Also, unlike a lot of Americans, they haven't forgotten what those lies Bush Inc. told have cost; in fact, they directly link the bloody chaos in Iraq that has killed near 1,700 Americans and tens of thousands of Iraqis to Bush's thuggish and militaristic foreign policy.

But maybe you have forgotten all that or you've chosen to ignore it. Ignorance is bliss, after all, and based on your blog entry, you come across to me as a very blissful person.
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 02:52 PM
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56. Rambling, but here is what I sent her:
Monica-

Seriously, what is it that you don't understand about the rest of the world's feelings towards President Bush? You weren't drowning in anti-Americanism. You were drowning in Anti-Bushism. And if I'm not mistaken, at least 49% of Americans feel the same way. Actually, the latest polls indicate that at least 60% of Americans feel the same way. What you saw in Europe was a free press. Given the state of the US media, I'm sure it did look a little strange to you. Our free press has been replaced by corporate press which is nothing more than tabloid and sensationalistic "journalism." Your network and others like it have repeatedly covered such stories round the clock as the "runaway bride" and whichever celebrity trial is in the spotlight at the moment. Is it really necessary for us to cover the Michael Jackson story 24 hours a day when there is clear evidence that the President of the United States lied to both Congress and the American people regarding the facts leading to war? Why do you give this man pass on something so horrific when you (the press) would have had Clinton tried and convicted right now for an indiscretion in his personal life? Unbelievable. Why is it that you cannot investigate what happened in the 2000 and 2004 elections? The US had a greater discrepancy between the polls and the vote than the Ukraine did......but where were/are you on voting reform and truth? Does it not bother you that they created a system with no paper trail? This from a company that can give you a receipt at every bank or convenience store in America when money is involved.

All of this brings me back to my point concerning your blog. What you saw in Eurpoe was not anti-American journalism, it was reality based journalism Bush is a failure in absolutely every way. Where is Osama bin Laden? Where is all the Iraqi oil going that was supposed to pay for this war? Remember when they told us the oil would pay for the war and the Iraqi's would be throwing roses? Where is our healthcare and Social Security? His plan is not to save SS. His plan is to turn it over to his Wall Street cronies to make billions. The plan stinks and the American people know it. He's failing on the Bolton nomination and I think he'd be hard pressed to find somebody more unqualified to be an Ambassodor to the UN. He's views on stem cell research are completely the opposite of most Americans. I read a poll on MSNBC this week that indicated that the vast majority - 75% disagree with the President and want this research to move forward. He's failing us in science and education as our schools are seriously lacking the in every way. I don't know a single person who works in the system that is happy with No Child Left Behind and Texas surpassed traditional poorer states such as Alabama as having the worst educational system. Again, another failure. One after the other.

So, tell me again where he's been successful? The only thing I can see is that he has successfully lied and cheated the American people and the world for the last 5 years and has certainly successfully shared the wealth with his financiers and supporters. Regardless of whether the world thinks they're failures, they are just going to be laughing all the way to the bank. And after they are gone, you can get back to the business of real hard hitting journalism again. What is Monica Lewinsky doing these days anyway?

Regards,
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Paranoid_Portlander Donating Member (823 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 03:06 PM
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57. Is Monica Crowley related to Candy Crowley?
They sure don't look related, physically, but they both have that RW cheerleading mindset that they just have to broadcast. At first, I thought this thread was going to be about Candy (nickname) Crowley, with Monica being her real name. Actually two different Bushbots.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 03:10 PM
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58. "And we would go fight for Europe! I mean, um, some poor hick fucks..."
"...from Rubetown, USA would go fight. Not me, I'm too pretty and rich."

:eyes:
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 03:13 PM
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59. she's either brain-damaged
stupid (the likeliest possibility)
or and evil, lying piece of crap
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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 03:14 PM
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60. "Oh, you English are SO superior, aren't you?"
"Well would you like to know where you'd be if it wasn't for me, the good ol' U.S. of A.? I'll tell ya where! The smallest f*cking province in the Russian Empire! If it wasn't for me, you'd all be speaking German, singing 'Deutschland, Deutschland ueber alles...'"

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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 10:08 PM
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78. Well, Mr. Man-fren-gen-sen-gen
Wendy: My father was in the Secret Service, Mr. Man-fren-gen-sen-gen, and I know perfectly well that you don't inform the general public when you're debriefing a KGB agent in a safehouse.
Otto: Oh you don't, huh?
Wendy: No, not unless you're congenitally insane or irretrievably stupid.
Otto: DON'T call me stupid!
Wendy: Why on earth not?
Otto: Oh, you English are sooo superior! Well, would you like to know what you'd be without us, the good old U-S of A to protect you? THE SMALLEST F**KING PROVINCE IN THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE! So don't you call me STUPID, lady, you just thank me!
Wendy: Well, thanks for popping by and protecting us...
Otto: (walking away) If it wasn't for us, you'd all be speaking GERMAN! (singing) Deutschland, Deutschland uber alles, uber alles..."
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 03:15 PM
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61. she is just a bush whore doing her job
LOL, thanks to the leadership of bush inc - WHO THE F*** does she think she is kidding?
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 05:07 PM
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68. Only thing left to wonder about is how much she's being paid by WH.
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Rambis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 03:19 PM
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62. For fucks sake!
How somebody could like anything about this clown is beyond me! Lets see...
Lying his way to gain support for an illegal invasion of a country and anyone buying it!
Torture
Shitty economy
Raping of the environment
Corp greed and out of control debt
Activist judges!
wiping his ass with the bill of rights via the "patriot Act"
Arrogant prick!

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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 03:20 PM
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63. Somebody should buy that b*tch a clue..............
Edited on Fri May-27-05 03:22 PM by converted_democrat
:eyes: Should we start a collection?
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 03:33 PM
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66. my e-mail to Monica
Dear Ms. Crowley,
I recently read about your remarks about the BBC and the
foreign media's disdain for President Bush. I also read your
factually-unsupported assertions. There are many things I could say,
but I am sure your inbox is filled to overflowing with more
well-informed people who can give you the facts better than I.
Therefore, here is my constructive suggestion. First, open
your mind that perhaps you do not possess the total reality of the
world. Second, spend one month reading
http://www.democraticunderground.com under a false username (for your
own protection) and ask some intelligent questions while you are
there. I am very confident that you will learn more in one month about
current realities in the Middle East, than you have learned in years
with Fox News. If you decline to follow my suggestion, I feel sorry
for you that you have purposefully declined an excellent opportunity
to educate yourself. Best wishes.
Sincerely yours, Steve XXXXXXXX
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 04:59 PM
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67. My e-mail to her
Edited on Fri May-27-05 05:00 PM by Godlesscommieprevert
Helloooo

The rest of the world hates Bush and the US because of a pre-emptive strike against a sovereign country on no good evidence.
They listened to people like Hans Blix and Scott Ritter who told as many people as they could that Saddam Hussein had NO WMD, contrary to the rigged up "intelligence" that was prepared by the Office of Special Plans. Have you even heard of the leaked memo from Downing Street which was written by the leader of MI6 after a meeting in July 2002 in Washington, " C reported on his recent talks in Washington. There was a perceptible shift in attitude. Military action was now seen as inevitable. Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy.
The NSC had no patience with the UN route, and no enthusiasm for publishing material on the Iraqi regime's record. There was little discussion in Washington of the aftermath after military action."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1593607,00.html

Have you even heard of the PNAC and its plans for permanent bases in the Middle eats therefore keeping American hands on an ever-decreasing asset - oil?

The rest of the world gets real news from real reporters, unlike you and the castrated US media, so get off your high horse about everything the US has done for the world. Let's see now - over a million Vietnamese dead over a war which shouldn't have happened, hundreds of civilians dead in Panama when we went in to catch a drug lord, thousands dead in El Salvador and Guatemala when we backed and trained the military to kill anyone who might support the Sandinistas, hundreds of thousands dying in Darfur while we do nothing.
Yeah, we're a real help to the world.

My name
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 05:13 PM
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69. What a load of unmitigated crap.

"Democratic elections in some form or another" in Saudi Arabia. Yes, Saudi Arabian MEN were allowed to vote for dog catcher and other vitally important municpal offices.

Clearly the reign of Bush's pals the Family Saud- who preside over what is widely considered one of the most totalitarian states on the globe- is crumbling under the onslaught of Bush-sponsored "freedom".

"50 Million liberated"? Yes, and many in Iraq are so 'free' they feel the need to escalate the insurgency. Why don't you ask the boys on the ground there just how appreciative the Iraqis are 2 years into the occupation.

And... why the fuck do we have blatant administration apologists and shills staffing major media outlets? Oh, wait, sorry, I know the answer to that.

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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 06:47 PM
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71. did anyone elses email come back as undeliverable?
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 06:51 PM
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72. wait! look at this...
"My audiences were American and generally supportive of what the Bush administration is doing in fighting terror and spreading freedom."

Her audiences were American? In London? WTF? Who were these people?

Something's off.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 07:59 PM
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74. Well, I can't guarantee I convinced her of why
but I can guarantee she just got an earful from me :)
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 08:11 PM
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75. I just emailed her
and used her material greed as an incentive to pursue the Downing Str. Minutes. You never know when they will turn on each other!! And at this point I am willing to try most anything to get DSM out in the open in the corporate media.

:evilgrin:
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 09:03 PM
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76. Is she the "new" Monica?
We had Monica Lewinsky in the previous administration...
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 09:05 PM
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77. Nobody can be that stupid
she's clearly a propagandist.
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dannynyc Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 11:58 PM
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80. My contribution to Miss Idiot, 2005
I just read your blog entry regarding your trip to London and your surprise at the level of "anti-Americanism" you encountered. As a journalist, I'm shocked that this would come as a surprise.

Prior to the late fall of 2001, the United States was regarded highly in the world. If I recall, a majority of the world - even several Muslim countries - were supportive of the US after 9/11. However, that fell apart when the US invaded Iraq.

Again, as a journalist, I can't understand how you can state the US is now making the world safer. Instead of search for Osama bin Laden, the US military is tied up in Iraq, fighting in a country that did not threaten the US. Recent information is coming to light the Bush Administration was determined to go into Iraq, and there is some information that states the Administration fixed intelligence to achieve their goal. Even if this is disregarded, what is fact is that Iraq has become a training ground for terrorists. Instead of making the world a safer place, the US government has made the world a much more dangerous place.

I believe you should check facts rather than listening to White House talking points. I would suggest you read a number of blog sites. And, I would also urge you to read both the liberal and conservative blog sites. Of course, anyone can write anything on a blog. However, when reading them, I would suggest you pay attention to what is opinion versus what is based on fact - and, what facts are documented (often by attaching a link) to other sites. There is a reason many newscasters are using blogs as their source of news on which to report.

I would also highly suggest you read foreign news reports - the BBC, Der Spiegel, Pravda - those publications cover US issues much better than the US news media does.

A final suggestion is to watch The Daily Show on Comedy Central. It has an amazing amount of news - and is much more reliable than most news broadcasts.
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 01:53 AM
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82. Deserves the "dumb blond" label...
she knows better, just a 'yes' girl.
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EMAN51 Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 02:04 AM
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83. Lie + Repeat Lie = Truth??
Here's a perfect example of the backward thinking of Ms. Crowley and her ilk:
"By the end of my trip, I was drowning in anti-Americanism."

UUUuuuhhh, no, not "anti-Americanism", rather drowning in the cesspool of resentment of the foreign policy of the neoconservatives who nobody voted for and their lackey, water carrying chimp. It's Bush, not America, that they don't like.

and #2 "American pressure on the international community is leading it to deal with the nuclear programs in Iran and North Korea. This is all because of American leadership, not European leadership."

Okay, didn't the EU work out the deal with the Iranians and not the U.S.?


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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 02:39 AM
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85. gee, i really can't stand her!
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 04:15 AM
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86. "The British media..."
"The British media were full of stories pounding the president and his policies".

Funny how the British media didn't "pound" the president in the 90's..
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 04:15 AM
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87. self-delete
Edited on Sat May-28-05 04:16 AM by CJCRANE
dupe
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lawladyprof Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 08:50 AM
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89. Is she related to Candy Crowley? eom
N/T
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 09:04 AM
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90. Yeah, I'd like to know the answer to that one......
Never ever heard of this bimbo.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 09:14 AM
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92. She's dumber than a bag of shit.
They hate us for our freedoms, superpower envy....what a crock of shit. They hate us because we invaded a sovereign country that had no weapons of mass destruction and were a threat to one. Then we fucking LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE to the world and we steal their oil and on and on. It's so nice of MSNBC to send a reporter overseas to shill for the current administration. What the fuck is a MSNBC reporter doing lecturing Londoners on American foreign policy. If she'd kept her republican ears open she might have come back dumber than half a bag of shit.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 09:39 AM
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93. Could THIS be one of the reasons?
"Thanks to the leadership of the Bush administration, members of Al Qaeda are being hunted, captured and killed."

Notice that something seems to be missing from this sentence?

Hunted

Captured

Killed

Hmmm. Let's see.

Could it be that Bush & Gang are so arrogant that they have left out the part about TRIALS and 'innocent until proven guilty'?
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 09:52 AM
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94. so why should i listen to this bimbo?
i will email her though with a few good points...get your head out of your ass and see the world as it is.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 10:05 AM
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95. Did she once work for Nixon?
How old would that make her? About 60?
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 10:07 AM
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96. Why didn't she bother asking any of them why?
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 10:08 AM
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97. what a stoopid c*nt
nt
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