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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 05:40 AM
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How much will this move piss Shrub and the rest of BushCo off...
....it only delays their Iran invasion plans by a couple of months, if at all.

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The New York Times
May 26, 2005
Europe Gets Iran to Extend Freeze in Nuclear Work
By ELAINE SCIOLINO

GENEVA, May 25 - The foreign ministers of Britain, France and Germany persuaded Iran on Wednesday to continue its freeze on nuclear activities, averting a diplomatic crisis that could have led to punitive international measures against Iran.

In exchange, the Europeans offered to present Iran with detailed, step-by-step proposals by early August at the latest on how to move toward consensus on the shape of Iran's nuclear program. Last November in Paris, Iran agreed to suspend all of its uranium enrichment and reprocessing activities while it negotiated the economic, nuclear, political and security benefits it would receive.

Despite the progress on Wednesday, the Europeans and the Iranians remain far apart on their ultimate goals. The Europeans want to prolong the freeze in Iran's enrichment activities until it becomes permanent, doling out trade, political, economic and security rewards, including access to nuclear energy, along the way.

The Iranians, by contrast, insist the freeze is only temporary. Iranian officials have pointed out that they are not required under the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty to freeze these activities and are doing so on a voluntary basis to show good will.

The Bush administration, which accuses Iran of secretly using its nuclear program to develop weapons, reacted with caution to the developments on Wednesday, reaffirming its support for the European effort, but reiterating its suspicion of Iran's motives.

"Iran hid its nuclear activity from the international community for two decades," said Scott McClellan, the White House spokesman. "That is why we are skeptical about their activities."

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<link> http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/26/international/europe/26iran.html?th&emc=th
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 05:44 AM
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1. Well, let me put it this way...
these bastards might call for a Re-D-Day, to fight the French occupation, of France.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 05:47 AM
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2. McClellan is an ********
"Iran hid its nuclear activity from the international community for two decades," said Scott McClellan, the White House spokesman. "That is why we are skeptical about their activities."

This means what to us? The White house has hidden all of it's activities from the entire world for 4.5 years. They are more dangerous than any enemy we may ever have. May the entire bush administration and a few others be taken away in handcuffs on live television when the leak finally breaks the dam.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 06:11 AM
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6. Iran hid its nuclear activity? From whom? I've known they were
Edited on Thu May-26-05 06:11 AM by Clark2008
developing something for at least four years, and that's just because that's about when I started paying attention.

Hey, Puffie McMoonface, SOME Americans aren't stupid enough to buy into your pre-war rhetoric.

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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 05:52 AM
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3. It will be framed as an extention of Bush's mighty will
They will say that the Europeans are so terrified of the awesome wrath of our Mighty War President that they are trying to keep Iran from taking their well-deserved ass-whuppin' -- as a humanitarian move, since five or six Christians may actually live there.

Or, they could tell the truth, that Bush has no credibility beyond the 12-Mile Limit and the Europeans have to go in and fix what he broke.

--p!
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 07:17 AM
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11. The latter for sure, "...catapult White House propaganda"
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 05:56 AM
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4. If Bush wants to invade Iraq he'll do it despite cooperation by Iraqis.
Saddam Hussein let the weapons inspectors into Iraq. What did it get him?

Those lying war criminals in the White House simply screamed that he was hiding his vast stockpile of weapons of mass destruction from the UN Inspectors.

This won't slow Bush down one bit if he's determined to invade.

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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 07:05 AM
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9. Ooops, I mean to say Iran, sorry for any confusion.
Did it twice too, Damn.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 07:20 AM
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13. What would a United Arab States of the Middle East consist of...
...there would no longer need to be these national identities. Of course, the world would have to deal much differently with that part of the world.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 06:03 AM
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5. None of the above. Israel will strike Iraq, not the U.S.
The U.S. will come into help the Israelis as "support".
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 06:12 AM
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7. And usher in that "Rapture" the fundies have been wanting so much.
eom
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 07:17 AM
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12. I fear you may be prophetic...
Edited on Thu May-26-05 07:22 AM by tyedyeto
but you do need to change Iraq to Iran in the title. (On edit: I see the time is expired for your post to be edited.)

Since Sharon stopped by the * ranch, I've also had the feeling that Israel would carry out initial strike against Iran then we would provide support after.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 06:15 AM
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8. won't delay it at all
since when has bush* listened to anyone?

don't forget the "yer either with us or against us" statements

he'll invade in time to use it for mid-term (s)elections....

watch for the "new product" roll-out when he returns from his august vacation
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 07:12 AM
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10. saddam was ready to give up in oct, turn self over
and tell his people to work with u.s.

bush said no, wnated to fight
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 07:22 AM
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14. Exactly my point, the BushCo people talk of peace and freedom
...while they prepare for continuous war and conquest of empire.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-26-05 09:21 AM
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15. in every single f*in thing they do.
i mean everything. from going after policy, to running a campaign, to talking to people. this is how they walk live. the very essence of who they are.
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