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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 08:46 PM
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Why was * holding the King's hand?
Doesn't King Abdullah understand or respect our customs?

:shrug:
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 08:53 PM
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1. Well, I think he wanted to hold his other "thingy"
But it was self protection.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 08:56 PM
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2. maybe they were going to milk a male camel later
:shrug:
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 09:21 PM
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5. LMAO!!
"Err..hold still there Abdulla...."
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 09:13 PM
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3. C'mon...holding hands or an arm over the shoulder or intertwined
elbows while walking are common touches of friends in the cultures of many people all over the world. We need to honor those customs. There is nothing wrong with it whether on our soil or theirs. We make special considerations when hosting a guest. These are the very important little things that diplomats and businesspeople must learn. Someone coached Bush well.

It's more important to try to figure out why Bush has his friend from the House of Saud on one side of him and Sharon on the other. Why does this triad exist? How do they get away with it.

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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 09:21 PM
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4. "Someone coached Bush well." -Puleeeze...
Spare us your 'understanding'. of holding hands with butchers and murderers.
I won't get into the hypocriscy of it all.
And as far as Fuckface being coached, maybe it was Bandar Bush , or GHWB (Saudi/Carlyle) who 'coached' him.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 09:49 PM
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8. I don't give Bush an inch. But, at least they are trying to follow
cultural protocal. That's all I'm saying.

Their relationship is duplitious, secretive, prosperous, and
dangerous.

The post was about holding hands and my answer would have fit better if Gore or Kerry were the President and had held the hand of the Prince.

By itself, I defend my answer.

Read my other answers if you want to know how I feel about this admin and their partnership with the House of Saud and Sharon.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 10:08 PM
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9. Who's damn "cultural protocol"?
The King was in the USA fer god sakes.

So when we go to Saudi Arabia(who would?) then they are going to embrace our "cultural protocol"? Hell no. So the only "protocol" followed is the Saudi's. A one way door.
That was my point.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 11:04 PM
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10. OK, President Kerry goes to xxx country...they don't shake hands...
Kerry knows this and doesn't extend his hand, but x diplomat knows that it is done in the U.S., so he extends his hand.

Books are full of this important protocal.

Protocal exists in and of itself. It can be compared somewhat to the protocal of war as defined in the Geneva Convention for prisoners (which they say we helped write, but is no longer observed by the right wing).

Discussing the evil of Bush and the Prince is one thing. Discussing protocal is another. I'm talking protocal, you're talking about their evil. Just because I'm saying that holding hands with an Arabic male is no big deal doesn't mean that making deals with the House of Saud and reaping profits for the benefit of only a few is a big deal.

I agree completely with the evil, hypocrisy, and danger of the friendhsip.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 11:35 PM
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12. My real question
I guess I didn't make myself clear yet.
Why are we only following the Saudi protocol, especially here in the USA?

I am talking strictly protocol.

The King is a visitor yet we hold his hand here and over there. I guess we would have to know whether shrub initiated the hand holding.
In other words why isn't the American protocol of hand shaking and not hand holding followed while here in the USA?

Either way it's starting to get silly talking about it.

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 09:22 PM
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6. The hand-holding didn't bother me at all, but the man the --
-- hand belonged to was of the House of Saud, and since over there they are remorseless in their oppression of women, gays, and so forth, it was the political alliance that bugged me.

Bush pisses off our allies in Europe and kowtows to this tyrant.

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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 09:24 PM
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7. So *Shrub could whisper...
We don't care if most of the hijackers on 9/11 were Saudi. We don't care that many of the suicide bombers in Iraq are Saudi. We don't care that you abuse women and chop the heads off of prisoners and give money to terrorist organizations. We don't care about any of that, but please, please, please! don't cut off the oil supplies......
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-21-05 11:14 PM
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11. why were most of airplane hijackers Saudi?
why was George Sr. having a meeting with Osama's family on 9-11

why do we not have a "real independent energy policy " for this country?

why is our auto industry in cahoots with the oil industry?

why are we really in Iraq?

why have you lost your freedoms?

why is Saudi Arabia a model for our Christian theocracy?


And you ask
Why was * holding the King's hand?

do we really need to ask?
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