On Ed Shultz

[babsbunny]

A caller asked why "Big Ed" isn't speaking about IMPEACHMENT. Ed said he is there for entertainment, and to make money. So there you have it. He is a fraud!

[BlueEyedSon]

1. Did you ever doubt it?

[blondeatlast]

6. I listen every day--he's the real deal, but your mileage may differ.

He's the best we got right now, Randi a close second.

[DURHAM D]

9. I listen to both - Randi on line and Ed in the car. He is

such a distant player he can't even see the pack. He is an entertainer, not an information provider.

[blondeatlast]

13. You are entitled, so am I. But if we dismiss him, we lose the rural vote

for good (I grew up in rurarl states).

[Green Mountain Dem]

I am in a rural state....

and we prefer Thom Hartman during daytime...and Malloy at night!

[blondeatlast]

16. I'm pretty far left, but I like to hear Ed. I appreciate a moderate POV,

and (sorry about the analogy) he will draw in voters just like Rush did.

Until we can COMMUNICATe with the red state voters who vote against themselves, we stand to lose.

[ScreamingMeemie]

11. Nancy Skinner is the best in my opinion.

I think Ed Schultz is very good at drawing moderate independents. :hi:

[blondeatlast]

15. Is she on AAR? Where can I hear her? Thanks... nt

[ScreamingMeemie]

24. Our local progressive station plays a blend of AAR and local hosts.

Here's the link:

http://www.wxdx1310.com/main.html

She's on from 6 to 9 AM here. She's excellent. She ran against Obama in the primaries.

[Ian David]

45. I think Morning Sedition and Stephanie Miller are tied for best

Morning Sedition is a completely different kind of show.

They're like a "Morning Show" for smart people.

Stephanie Miller has this way of engaging freepers in a more velvet glove approach than Randi does. If you like angry confrontation, then I guess Randi is better. If you'd rather have more information and less screaming, then you'd prefer Stephanie.

It's funny the way she sometimes treats arguing with the Bushbots like sex. She'll sweetly say something like, "You stay on the line, lover, and after this commercial you and I will talk some more..."

[WLKjr]

2. yeah yeah, a caller also called and claimed he wasn't

talking seriously about unions too.......


There is this thing called the up/down channel and also this kewl new button called 'off'......not to be mean or anything.

[rurallib]

3. Fraud? I don't think so

just doesn't want to be a one trick pony. Also, impeachment is probably not achievable, at least now. Go for the achievable.

[Radio_Lady]

5. Radio is information AND entertainment -- Ed Schultz said it best:

If he dwells on impeachment, he doesn't think the public will listen. Impeachment is unachievable in this environment -- and I liked his last thought near the end of his show -- these people in the government are doing a lot more damage than was done with Watergate. I agree with him and will continue to listen to him. Beats the right wing local knucklehead on the other radio station.

[blondeatlast]

4. Edit: better expressed in below post. nt

[babsbunny]

8. Rush is also entertainment

and there to make money. I'm glad we have Liberal radio, but the sad fact is they are there to make money. We can't hang on their every word as being truth, and they cannot be trusted to tell the truth. SAD.

[blondeatlast]

10. That was PRECISELY his point.

Like him or hate him, he speaks to the guys who continually vote against their best interests.

[LittleClarkie]

25. We need to remember that's all any of these guys, right or left

are there for. They're not leaders. They're entertainment. I wish people who listen to Rush and Hannity and all would remember that.

It's just good to have one to listen to that's on our side for a change.

[blondeatlast]

7. What else did he have to say? Just curious... nt

[babsbunny]

12. I listen to Ed every day

For some reason after hearing him tell the caller he is entertainment and there to make money, I realized he won't be a leader. I guess I am looking for a leader, who isn't in this fight for money or entertainment, or fame.

[blondeatlast]

14. Ed isn't the guy then, but he will change some minds out there.

As I've said before, he speaks to the heart of the guys who vote against themselves everytime. As he puts it, "the guys who shower after work.

Glad to hear you listen--many dismiss him without ever having listened.

Today he even stated his REAL position on Roe v. Wade (not the DU version). He does not approve of abortion, but he does not want Roe v. Wade overturned.

[elizm]

17. Morning Sedition is MUCH better...

on AAR....and helps me wake up in the morning knowing I am not going insane. I have tried to listen to Shultz on the way home from work but find him boring.

[FrenchieCat]

18. It's all good!

I remember when we had about three progressive talk show hosts...and none were national.

As long as none of OUR progressive radio talk show hosts kiss Republican ass....they are golden in my book.

The more progressive voices, the betta'.
It's really just that simple.

[blondeatlast]

19. Indeed--I'm amazed we even have any reason to have this conversation!

Progressive talk is a minor miracle in my book--I never thought I'd see the day.

[cheezus]

20. if you don't like ed it's because he isn't talking to you

He's in Fargo, ND, talking to other regular-joe heartlanders. I wasn't a big fan at first either -- BUT IT WORKS.

[babsbunny]

21. Ed flat out told this caller

and me, since I was listening too, that impeachment is out of the realm of possibility. WILL NEVER HAPPEN! I am sure the righties loved hearing that!

[LittleClarkie]

37. The rest of the sentence would be

Impeachment is out of the realm of possibility while the Republicans are the majority in both the House and the Senate.

That's what he's said before. And he's right. Maybe if we gain ground in 2006 it will enter the realm of possibility, but right now, there are other things more attainable than that.

[stevedeshazer]

39. He's 100% right

You may not like it, but you'd be more likely to be eaten by a wolf and shit over a cliff than see a House with a Republican majority draw up articles of impeachment.

Sorry, babsbunny, I'd like to see him be impeached too, but it ain't gonna happen with this bunch. :)

[readermostly]

42. I agree. As long as his Republican party controls every branch of

government, Bush will always be protected, no matter what. After the previous four years, I'm still in shock that he was voted in again. Now he feels invincible.

[LittleClarkie]

22. What's fraudulent about that?

That's about the most honest thing he could have said. Can you picture RUSH admitting that.

Still, I want the full context before I decide what Ed meant by that.

He's my only even vaguely liberal radio guy, so I will forgive alot.

[babsbunny]

23. After that is when he said he is

entertainment, here to make money. Look, you can't crush people's hope! If there is no hope of getting this FOOL out of office, then what are we here for? why not just lay down and die?

[KoKo]

26. Your post is Bizarre....Go eat Dirt!

:puke:

[elizm]

28. A little harsh...

..don't you think?

[KoKo]

32. Well...it's harsh for me...but I'm sick of posts trashing Schultz. He's

the best thing we Dems have had since Limbaugh, Drude, O'Reilly and the rest of the Fox crowd came on the scene. Yet there are more an more posts trying to make him sound like a "traitor."

I'm NOT a CENTRIST DEM...but I like Ed Schultz and if we Dems are so brain dead we can't get what he's trying to say ...then we have no use in trying anymore.

so...I repeat: "Eat Dirt" if you can't understand Schultz. I'm sick of trying to explain anything...and not in a good mood about this. :-(

[babsbunny]

43. Thanks

I guess I check in here to see if there are any new "smoking Guns" that I haven't heard about. Now that I know "Smoking Guns" and hopes for Impeachment is just a fantasy you people talk about on a daily basis, I think I'll stay away. Yeah, there is no hope. Why be here.

[tishaLA]

27. I frequently disagree with Mr. Schultz

But he was right: impeachment isn't going to happen--not when Republicans control the house and the senate. You may or may not hope it will, but it's not going to. He was being realistic.

And, despite my disagreements with him, I hardly think he's a fraud. He might be misguided sometimes, but I might think that because I'm a blue stater on the coast and he's in the middle of a sea of red.

[blondeatlast]

29. I'm in a deep red area, and I think you are on to something.

Schultz is NOT going to appeal to Dems who are used to being surrounded by other Dems, especially professional types and the college educated.

I think there are many DUers who are in your situation and don't have that same POV that those of us in red states do. I'm a paraprofessional surrounded by working-class types in a purple state, but very red area. I've gotten a couple of Rush listeners to listen to Ed on a regular basis. It ain't much, but I'

[whometense]

30. That's been my impression too.

I'm a blue stater in a blue town, but even blue states have guys who think liberals are wimps and pussies. That's what Ed's there for - for the guys who might hear him and think, hmmm, maybe you can be macho and liberal.

[LittleClarkie]

36. Not to mention he's still something of a recovering Republican

He's headed in the right direction, though, and I think we have to realize that much of the Democratic base is about as liberal as he is, and not to much farther to the left.

[snowbear]

38. But LilClarkie...

He's so completely open and honest about how his wife, Wendy, made him see the light. So I could care less that he's a recovering anything..

I love listening to him talk about how he was "back then" and how he feels being a Democrat. I always hope that other ReTHUGS are listening to what he says when he talks about his old days.

Look at how many DU'ers have joined this forum lately that say they "were" Republicans, but can no longer stand that party.

We welcome them with open arms.. :shrug: ..If we didn't, our party wouldn't be expanding and growing like it is. :)

The good news is.. there's plenty of variety in radio. As for me, I'll keep my Big Eddie.. :hug:

[LittleClarkie]

40. Oh I'm not down on him for that

Just explaining how he might not be far enough to the left for some.

But for me, most of the time, he's just about right. I like him too. You won't find me bashing him. The occasional criticism once in a while maybe, but no bashing.

[napi21]

31. That's what they all are! At least he admits it!

I listen to so many LW radio shows, I don't remember which one I heard it on, but one of the hosts answered this question like this. There's no point in discussing impeachment until the Dems get a majority in the House. That's where impeachment proceedings must begin. Until that happens, it's a topic not worth the air time.

I hate it!!!! But it's true!!

[snowbear]

33. Big Eddie ((( ROCKS )))

Sorry you don't feel that way Babs.

Me. I love the guy... :headbang:

[tibbiit]

34. If you had listened to him more than once on the subject of impeachment

you would have heard him say it is not attainable because of the house of reps in repuke control by a wide margin. He thinks it is a waste of time when there are so many other things that are more attainable.
He says over and over AT thie TIME we have no power to impeach. Imo that is a completely reasonable approach when there are memos and newsweeks and at least one new outrage per day.
I like him alot and am happy to be able to listen to am radio again without screaming at the radio.
tib

[demo dutch]

35. Not a big fan, he tries to sound like a leftie Limbaugh, give me Randi

anyday!

[LittleClarkie]

41. I can only take Randi in small doses

She can be such an uberbitch sometimes.

[demo dutch]

49. I agree, but she always has her facts straight!

[markus]

44. Ed's a Democrat, but he's no DUer

He comes from North Dakota, where they like their Democrats moderatley firery but practical.

Kent Conrad is the poster child for this, if you've ever notice him (and many hear have for his stalwart opposition to Republican fiscal irresponsibility).

If you say Impeachment to him you might was well call up to talk about Alien Abduction. He's not going to follow you down that road.

[zulchzulu]

46. Big Eddie ain't Mike Malloy

If you want screaming tirades (that in my opinion start sounding like a broken record), listen to Mike Malloy. Same with Randi.

Big Eddie at least lets righties come on and he politely skewers their lies. I've heard him at least say that Bush is an idiot and needs to be charged with crimes and such. Randi, who lets Repugs get on her show, then yells them down and puts in the last word in the same manner that Rush employs...Malloy just cuts them off after trying to demonize them.

Eddie's good for a wider mix of people that Malloy or Rhodes can barely penetrate that are used to Rush and see that it's OK to be a progressive. He's not perfect and I've been mad at him on a couple issues, but overall he's certainly on our side. Any notion that he's a fraud is ridiculous.

[Puglover]

47. I don't think he's a fraud

as much he's trying to do a Minnesota Nice thing and appeal to Midwesterners and moderates. Randi is more acerbic and direct (which I LOVE) And before you flame I'm a Minnesotan.
My only problem with Schultz is simply a personal taste thing. I can't stand his Limbaughesque voice tones and his folky cute act.
Calling the Repukes "righties" and his giggles simply aren't my cup of tea.

Oh and yeah, I do love Randi but I wish she would cool it with the shout downs. It's my least favorite thing about her.

on edit add last sentence

[Enraged_Ape]

48. IMO, Jerry Springer is the best with right-wing callers

He opts for cogent explanation rather than shouting down and cutting off. I think that's the most effective approach.