Galloway event: Whay isn't anyone upset with Carl Levin?

[woosh]

He was on Wolf Blitzer after CNN interviewed Galloway and basically called Galloway a liar and a crook. Did anyone else see this?

I can't figure out what Levin is on the Oil for Food bandwagon?

[Jacobin]

1. Galloway committed the unpardonable sin

of suggesting that zionists, neo-cons and fundamentalists were behind the Iraq invasion.

Mustn't say anything negative about Israelis, now can we?

[woosh]

4. I suppose.

But looking over Levin's political contributors, he basically gets some change from Labor, and a little from the defense industry. It doesn't add up to why he would be sticking his neck out for the Bush administrations attack on the UN?

[Warpy]

7. Nah, the talking heads are spinning it this way:

"We respect our great and glorious leaders, and Galloway was unpardonably RUDE to them!"

I heard picklefaces on Charlie Rose last night, and both of them complained that Galloway didn't show the thieves and liars who are trying to frame him with forged documents the proper amount of toadying.

Nobody has yet refuted a single thing that Galloway said.

[woosh]

14. Who was on Charlie Rose?

[slor]

2. I saw it and became livid...

after hearing Mr. Galloways brave stand, and to have levin turn into coleman was astonishing. He needs to hear us, loud and mother-fucking clear, FOLLOW MR. GALLOWAY"S LEAD OR GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY!

[pbartch]

25. I saw Levin lies too and can't figure it out

He was twisting the truth.

[asjr]

3. He could have bought the misinformation presented

by our good old wanna be president Norm Coleman. I have seen blatant politicism before but he takes the cake.

[Benhurst]

5. Many of us are upset. Time for him to go. We need real

Democrats with backbone who stand for something. Levin has earned a spot on my "Should Be Replaced" list.

[rinsd]

31. For what?

Do you even know what his voting record is?

I beginning to think the DLC types aren't the problem(part of not the sole source) but elements of the base have become extremely reactionary.

[Inland]

6. Are we sure Galloway isn't guilty? I mean, I appreciate his war

stand, and saying what's true, but I'm not going to jump on the Galloway for President bandwagon until I know more.

[bemildred]

8. If a guilty mans speaks the truth, does it somehow become false? nt

[Inland]

10. No, but it doesn't make him innocent, either.

So Carl can't be blamed, and I would be careful, in approching Galloway as a person. Just saying.

[bemildred]

19. I don't really care if he is "innocent" or not.

What Levin did is way slimier than anything they have pinned
on Galloway, or anything Galloway did during the hearing, and
it was plain for all to see.

[demo dutch]

20. They haven't even proved it, besides they needed to be screamed

at and hear the truth about Iraq! Galloway said what I've have wanting to scream in their faces for over a year!

[Inland]

22. I do, if I am going to support him over Levin.

Otherwise, all his truths on Iraq get thrown aside and I would look like I associate with criminals. Just saying.

[bemildred]

24. This is a witch hunt. There is not one shred of credible evidence.

As Mr. Galloway correctly pointed out, if they have anything at
all on him we would have seen it yesterday. Instead we got
forgeries, slurs, and innuendoes. Coleman himself admitted that
his case is entirely circumstantial.

They have been trying to smear him because of his politics for
years, and they still are. Ignoring their ad hominem attacks
has nothing at all to do with associating with criminals and
everything to do with not allowing his arguments to be deflected
away.

[woosh]

9. I'm sure that the Senate has better things to do with their time.

[Benhurst]

12. If the Senate wants to go after guilty persons, I would suggest

they start with two well-know war criminals, Richard "Dick" Cheney and George Walker Bush. If the worst said about Mr. Galloway were true, and I doubt it is, he's so far down the list of villains our prisons would be overflowing before they got around to him.

[murdoch]

18. Is Clinton guilty of killing Vince Foster? Arming the Chinese?

Galloway has been subjected to slander, fabrications, and forgeries, the lawsuits of which have gotten him money from the Christian Science Monitor and some British newspaper.

On the other hand we have the US administration, which lied about WMD's and a million other things.

Yet the same mud machine said Clinton killed Vince Foster, sold arms to the Chinese for money and so forth. Are we sure Clinton isn't guilty?

The idea that George Galloway personally benefited from this mother of all smokescreens which Bush is using to attack the UN, anti-war forces in England and France and so forth, is ridiculous. It's ludicrous that we have all of the Harken and Halliburton connections spelled out, yet with no evidence from someone who manufactures stories about WMD's you question the integrity of George Galloway.

Norm Coleman didn't even try to accuse Galloway to his face. Instead, he talked about Fawwaz Zurayqat. Even the evidence that Zurayqat gave any kickbacks to Saddam along with all of the American corporations who were giving Saddam kickbacks WITH the knowledge of the US government, is scant. But even if he did, and the evidence that he did so is scant, what does this have to do with Galloway, and the accusation that he made millions in dirty deals? It's beyond ridiculous, the mother of all smokescreens as Galloway said.

[Inland]

23. You must know Galloway. I don't.

I just don't know he is innocent of the charges, so I don't know why I would slam Carl Levin for his sake. It makes more sense to hold back on Galloway than to presume Levin is guilty of joining the republican smear machine. Just saying.

[springhill]

26. But isn't that the point?

Levin doesn't know he's really guilty either. Or he would have produced the evidence. Yet he goes on television and basically proclaims that Galloway is lying about it. There have already been forged documents supposedly showng his culpability. To entertain the thought that there is a corrdinated effort to try and smear him because he is so totally cutting in his condemnation of the war and those who carried it out is not hard at all to believe. Anyone remember Bill Clinton?

[Inland]

28. Yes. I know Levin, and don't know Galloway.

So why denounce Levin and make Galloway a saint, when Galloway might turn out to be a criminal? I can wait.

[springhill]

29. Did you even read my post?

Your response makes no sense. Why is Levin insinuating he is guility without evidence? If there is direct evidence, he needs to produce it before going on television and proclaiming that Galloway is a liar.

[bemildred]

30. DeLay == Innocent until proven guilty.

Galloway == Guilty! Guilty! Guilty! No matter what.
Any questions?

[Cha]

32. Zinger Point! n/t

[Q]

11. Levin and the rest of the senate goons...

...didn't present a shred of credible evidence against Galloway. And they had no intention of providing any evidence because they were there to smear and neutralize him before his message got any traction.

This isn't about the oil for food program. It's about killing off any remaining opposition to the Iraq slaughter and anyone willing to point out that the senate is as guilty as Bush when it comes to attacking countries that pose no threat to our security.

[quiet.american]

13. Uh-huh! n/t

[ElsewheresDaughter]

15. well this is one of those rare occassions that i MUST have to say

SCREW YOU SENATOR LEVIN!!!! YOU ARE WRONG!!!

[stopbush]

16. In his defense, Levin did get entered into the record that the US

government and US companies were the biggest enablers/offenders in the oil for food program to the tune of $8 billion.


Still, why he ragged on Galloway is beyond me. Galloway has a way of always coming out smelling like roses. Why would Levin open himself up to look like a fool 3 months down the road?

[CWebster]

17. I am watching-listen to the exchange now

Obviously Galloway is not demonstrating the proper deference to the elites. lol.

[demo dutch]

21. The guy will end up being the Hero of the anti-war movement

including in the UK where he's apparently not too well liked! This thing will do wonders for his image,... I,m sure!

[CWebster]

27. I watched the BBC link and it had poor audio

So maybe I should study it again, but Levin did defend himself when Galloway used the univeral "you" to accuse the US of Invading Iraq. I got the impression that Levin was a little uncomfortable about being on the spot under the circumstances.