the impact of the now on the later.....

[liberalitch]

What impact will what is transpiring politically and economically now impact the 2006 midterms and the 2008 elections?
Please keep in mind MY predictions are optimistic... yours don't have to be.

[AverageJoe]

1. I voted "other" and here's my explanation

I predict that the Democrats will get a bunch more votes than will the Republicans in House, Senate and Presidential races. I also predict that the Republicans will count the votes and steal these races. Further, I predict that the corporate media will continue to be complicit in these crimes.

Sorry, but that's my guess.

[Mountainman]

2. I agree with you. The voters don't suspect that their votes are not being

counted and no one does anything about the voter intimidation and things such as not having enough time or equipment in Dem voting precincts.

We will wait until voting day in 2006 to make a stand against an organization that is working as we speak to steal the next election.

Counting all the votes after election day and whining about losing does nothing. We need to infiltrate the right and stop them now before Nov 2006 but we won't.

We make it so damn easy for them. Two times now a Republican Sec of State controlled the outcome of the Presidential election and yet you hear no one saying that we should do something about it and now we have a repuke Sec of State in CA.

[liberalitch]

3. So both of y'all are countinmg on election fraud...

Hmmm that (under the present circumstances) is a very logical assumption.... unfortunately.
as you can tell I'm hoping in the next year that places will return to paper balloting

[Joebert]

4. I am not nearly as optimistic as you.

Even with perfect voting, I think the Republicans will keep their hold.

Their voters are on a crusade. They do not vote in their best interest. They do not vote for the good of all. They don't vote for the improvement of the country.

They vote because their religious leaders tell them to.
They vote because the media tells them the Democrate want to tax them.

They win because the Democrats put up candidates that are easy to destroy.

I think it needs to be framed another way.

What is more important to you, voter?

Your child being able to be healthy, go to school where they can learn to be whatever they'd like to be. OR spending that money on attacking countries that are thousands of miles away who never would attack us.

What is more important? Lower gas prices eventually, or being able to afford to go to the doctor without selling your car, and going into a lifetime of debt?

Do you want a candidate that goes to Nascar races and hangs out on the ranch, or do you want one that actually works for two weeks in a row?

[liberalitch]

5. face it they cut education to build an...

intellectual peasantry....
A friend of mine lives in Dunn, NC
Winchester wanted to relocate a gun barrel factory there.
Like guns or not.... that's LOTS of good jobs for people who know and appreciate guns.
The "city fathers" voted not to let winchester come there.
Their reasoning?
The factory would employ too many of the poor whites and blacks year round making them unavailable at cotton and tobacco time..... and still they vote republican.

[Joebert]

16. I think that makes 3 times this week.

THREE times that I've read this forum and wanted to vomit blood.

I watched Chalmers Johnson's bookTV show on CSPAN2. He was asked if he forsaw a civil war. He said no since more people actually voted for Bush this time unlike 2000.

That kind of crap keeps happening, and we're going to see some desperation violence.

[BornaDem]

6. I had planned to vote and was thinking we would...

take back the Senate by a couple of seats which would be a very big victory considering we have more at stake and are down by 11, but I guess I will reconsider and sit it out since so many on DU believe that voting is futile and everything is rigged. Come on, this is really getting old.

[AverageJoe]

9. Just saying what I believe to be true

I don't mean that you shouldn't vote. I'm going to vote. I just believe that the fix is in....

[BornaDem]

10. If you believe that, then why would you bother to vote?

That makes no sense. If you're going to vote, then obviously you don't believe it at all.

[AverageJoe]

17. Not true

I'll vote.

That doesn't change the fact that I think the game is rigged.

[ClassWarrior]

7. Sorry. Not psychic.

NGU.

[dkofos]

8. I hope Dems (real Dems) take house and senate in 06

But it won't happen if we don't get more people to the polls!!

:grr: :grr:

[BornaDem]

12. How are we going to get more people to the polls...

if everbody believes the election is rigged from in front? The only reason I'm going to vote is because I don't believe any of this "fix is in" stuff. If DU'ers keep this up (claiming they were screwed out of the last election and the next one's outcome is already fixed) we aren't going to be able to get anybody out to vote in the future. This is really self-defeating IMHO.

[Nevernose]

11. DeLay and the TX GOP insured that we can't take back the House (n/t)

n/t

[BornaDem]

13. To take back the house, we have to first take back the state...

legislatures we've lost before the 2010 census, and then re-gerrymander all the stuff that's been drawn since we controlled those legislatures (like Texas.)

[Nevernose]

14. Someone said: "We've lost Texas of at least fifty years"

There's no way to re- or un- gerrymander it until the Repukes are gone, and that won't hapen for a long, long time.

*sigh* Texas is such a great state, with so much promise.

[BornaDem]

15. If we can't take back the state legislature before 2010...

then we have to do it before 2020 and for every census that goes by and Repukes are left in control of the legislature, it will be harder and harder because they will keep making it easier and easier for them. That's how the game is played except in the states where the balance of power in the legislature is so close and can swing to either party that they make deals on how to gerrymander.

There are only about 10 - 12 house seats that are competitive under the present conditions barring some enormous scandal that makes the public want to kick all Repukes out or never let us near power again.