I don't care if Reid apologized for calling Bush a loser.

[BurtWorm]

As long as he keeps doing things that make Bush a loser.

[Erika]

1. Reid was yanking GOP chains

and doing a great job. Bush is a loser. His legacy will be the worst of this century and the last.

[FreedomAngel82]

2. I agree

I wonder what his presidential library will consist of.

[uppityperson]

6. Didn't you hear about the fire in his library last week?

Both books in his bathroom burned and he was really upset because he'd almost finished coloring the second one.

[Jack Rabbit]

10. Most of us won't know

In order to get into the George W. Bush Presidential Library, you will have to:

• Donate $1000 to the RNC;
• Demonstrate that you own controlling interest in a major corporation that either pollutes the environment or exploits impoverished workers in developing countries;
• Sign a paper stating that Bush was the greatest President ever and was an emissary from God;
• Sign another paper stating that global warming is based on junk science and that intelligent design isn't;
• Sign yet another stating claiming that Saddam had a biochemical arsenal, ties to al Qaida and was a major cause of cancer, tuberculous and tooth decay.

[suegeo]

13. Well as long as there is no holy water at the door

As long as there is no holy water that visitors need to bless themselves with before entering...

I hear holy water blisters the skin of fake republicans.

Also, I think the major work available at the library will be the "Handbook of human trechery" with foreword by Hank Kissenger, many chapters by Nixon, Ford, Bush Sr. and the last few chapters ghost-written for Jr. by some party hack.

[Mountainman]

11. I think the book is "My Pet Goat" or something like that

[ClassWarrior]

15. I think FA82 was asking about REID's presidential library.

NGU.

[BurtWorm]

23. No he wasn't.

Reread Erika's post, then read FA82's subject line.

[ClassWarrior]

24. Ah. Legacy. My bad.

NGU.

[IronLionZion]

40. I hope Reid gets a presidential library

because that means he will be president first :bounce:

[spooky3]

39. comic books

[Bleacher Creature]

38. My guess is that Reid knew exactly what he was doing

Hence, the quick turnaround on the "apology." I'm starting to get the sense that he's as shrewd and manipulative a politician as there is -- and I'm damn glad he's on our side.

[kevinmc]

3. He did it perfect

Said what needed to be said then cut off the Right-wing attack before they had a chance.

[madrchsod]

4. i agree

with your assesment..earlier discussion had some all upset but they failed to realize reid is throwing shit back at them..."i said that? oh sorry,i didn`t really mean it- that way"

[blondeatlast]

17. Indeed. Reid is a very keen operative. He knew EXACTLY how to

handle it. He plays the press like a fiddle, too.

[NightOwwl]

5. Yes, it seems the strategy was lost on some.

Gee Karl, I'm sorry I called George Bush a loser. Calling George Bush a loser was over the top. Cross my heart and hope to die, I'm sorry I called him a loser.

[blondeatlast]

18. and note who was the recipient of the apology--the illustrious KKKarl Rove

That, my politically pure friends, was NO ACCIDENT.

I thought it was brilliant, myself.

[blondeatlast]

21. KARL, it just slipped out that he is a LOSER.

I should not have said that George is a loser, KARL. KARL, I'm so sorry to have to call you, KARL, and apologize for calling George a loser.

KARL, it's good to talk with you agin. When I make another masterful politcal move, KARL, it's good to know I have you, KARL ROVE, on speed-dial!

I can't wait to talk to you again, KARL!

Thanks.

[flordehinojos]

7. refuse to apologize for telling the truth HARRY. TELL THEM YOU STAND BY

THE TRUTH !!!!!!!!!!

[depakid]

8. As long as he "keeps doing things?

Like what?

I can't think of anything he's done except hand the Republicans everything that they want.

Seems to me, Reid should be apologizing to the Dems (or maybe for them)- not calling Karl Rove.

[BurtWorm]

12. In this instance, Reid got to have his cake and eat it.

He got to call Bush a loser and then take the initiative to civilly apologize. I don't care if he's civil to Bush on the outside as long as he let's him have it when and where it counts. This spring he's been mostly doing that. Some DUers are thinking he's losing his nerve. Let's wait and see. It looks to me like he has a lot more fire in the belly for a fight than the last minority leader. Let's not judge his every move. We'll drive ourselves crazy expecting perfection.

[Pepperbelly]

14. this is lame ...

There is no way that 45 can be equal-to-or-greater-than 55. What do you want? Non-stop fillibuster?

:eyes:

[depakid]

26. Well, Dole managed to do a lot more

with a lot less during Clinton's first Congress. Let's see- blocked some nominations, killed the Fairness Doctrine with the threat of a filibuster, killed health care reform with no compromise- and that's just what I can think of off the top of my head. And did the electorate punish the Republicans or being obstructionists in next election?

Democrats have been acting like battered women- they've developed learned helplessness- and rather than confront them- their supporters are enabling them saying in essence "its OK or you to be in this abusive relationship." There's nothing you can do.

Well, I say there is something they can do. And people will get behind them if they start standing up- and leave the Senate without a quorum if necessary. Get assertive and show some courage and conviction- and get out of the abusive relation.

I ain't asking or much. Just one or two decisive actions. So far, I've seen nothing but hollow words (which is what everybody else sees, too). If someone like Dole could act effectively with what was it- 59-41, you can't tell me that Reid can't do something with his margin....

[ClarkUSA]

35. How many GOP were in the Senate when Dole was Minority Leader?

I am asking because I am curious.

I wish Harry Reid was Senate Majority Leader then.

Dashle was the epitome of dishwater-weak Democrats and I'm glad he's gone -- to the same big lobbying law firm as Bob Dole, btw. Dole had a killer instinct Dashle lacked completely.

Reid doesn't operate from that deficit at all. He's stared down Las Vegas mobsters who tried to bomb his family home and blew up his car -- he knows what Karl Rove and the Mayberry Mafia are all about.

[ClassWarrior]

16. You need to do some research, my friend.

<LOL>

Reid has surprised the hell out of me by standing up to Bush** and the Radical RW time and again. I thought he'd turn out to be a Daschle clone, but he's a fighter.

And since it appears that you're missing the obvious humor in the current situation, let me break it to you gently. Reid didn't really call "Rove." It was a joke. Ever hear of a joke??

NGU.

[depakid]

27. Name one thing that he's done

on a substantive level.

Words are cheap. Do you think he'll be able to block Bolton?

If not- given all the evidence, I submit that's proof he's no different or better than Daschle. Indeed- at this point, Daschle had a better track record.

[blondeatlast]

32. Would God Himself be able to block Bolton?

Ah, well, I once was a political purist, too.

[NJCher]

44. OK, I'll bite

Name one thing that he's done

Do you recall Jeffords' switch to "independent" status? Harry Reid was the behind-the-scenes persuader.

But then if you liked the last two and a half years of all repuke rule, this wouldn't be significant.


Cher

[depakid]

45. That was good

It sure beats the illusory crap that the apologists lay out all of the time.

Unfortunately, that was 4 years ago and took place long before Reid became the "leader" of the party.

[ClassWarrior]

46. You didn't answer the question.

Have you ever heard of a joke?

As for what Reid's done, I'm assuming you know how to use a search engine, don't you? What, do you expect me to do your research for you too?? <LOL>

NGU.

[depakid]

47. 'scuse me?

I think I asked the question that only one person had the temerity to try to answer.

Joke? I don't really think learned helplessness is a joke. Nor do I think that meaningless bluster is very funny-

[Adelante]

9. It was a smooth move

Harry :yourock:

[blondeatlast]

19. The apology went to KKKARL ROVE. I thought it was damn brilliant.

Think about it...

[BurtWorm]

22. That is funny.

;)

[democracyindanger]

29. And, the "apology" was Reid saying that it was "inappropriate"

not "inaccurate."

[wiggs]

20. Much better than Kerry's apology after the "crooked liars" line

In a moment of honesty after a speech, Kerry's microphone picked up (paraphrased) "...don't worry, we'll get these guys. They're the biggest bunch of crooked liars I've ever seen." He backed off afterwards, saying he didn't mean the administration or republicans in general...just the guys on the campaign team who were lying about him. I thought his initial statement was great, the subsequent one weak.

[Lars39]

25. Reminds me of the Canadian "He's a moron" flap.

By apologizing and re-issuing apologies, the sweet pairing of "bush" and "moron" were in the news for about 2 weeks. :evilgrin:

[blondeatlast]

31. Yep--Reid played this perfectly, and to KKKarl Rove, no less...

:rofl:

[patricia92243]

28. Is there a link on this? Or somebody just tellwhat happened. I had heard

about him caling Bush loser - then what happened?

[Sparkly]

33. Apparently...

He or a spokesperson said that since Bush was abroad ("probably sleeping," I think it was said), Reid called Karl Rove and expressed his regret that the remark was inappropriate.

He didn't say it wasn't true. He didn't say it to Cheney or Chimpy or even Hastert or Mehlman -- he said it to ROVE. Like, "Oops, I'm sorry I dissed your little Frankenstein." It was a statement, to me at least, that recognized Chimpy is a created, owned and operated by Rove.

I like Harry Reid more and more. :)

[ClarkUSA]

36. He said it to a high school civics class in his home state of Nevada

Best civics lesson of the year. Class dismissed!

Reid is the only reason Nevada is purple.

[UdoKier]

30. He shouldn't have apologized, he should have corrected himself.

The correct term is "colossal asshole"

[Bluebear]

34. PS Did Cheney ever apologize for telling Sen. Leahy to go fuck himself?

[ClarkUSA]

37. There's a reason Cheney has approval ratings in the toilet

We want better for the Senate Minority Leader.

Besides, the GOP do it all the time.

Both Cornyn and DeLay of Texas apologized after they incited violence against judges post-Schiavo -- do you think anyone heard their apologies?

Reid knows how to give a non-apology. He said it was "inappropriate" - not that saying BUSH IS A LOSER to an entire high school civics class was wrong.

[IronLionZion]

42. inappropriate, but not false

Bush really is a loser, it's just inappropriate for our leader to call him that in public.

[Bluebear]

43. I just asked if he apologized

[IronLionZion]

41. Harry Reid is so cunning

Damn he's good! He really is a wise leader. He managed to say what needed to be said, then came out of it looking good anyway.

If anything good came out of Daschle's underhanded defeat, this is it. Tom Daschle was a good Democrat, but he's no Harry Reid.