A woman running for President in 2008?

[bobthedrummer]

A couple of women have been mentioned as possible Democratic candidates for President.

Do you feel that if the Democrats do choose a woman to run it would be a positive or a negative?

[saltpoint]

1. 'Positive.'

Would prefer Boxer among mentioned possibilities, but in general it is time we looked to folks other than white males to be in the White House.

After the current president, I think we should opt for an ADULT as well.

[bobthedrummer]

3. President Barbara Boxer, that sounds great to me today.

But I'm just learning about her.

[BlueIris]

26. If it can't be Kerry, I want Boxer, but I went with "unsure,"

because if there's anything I've learned about this country--it's that its society is more misogynist than ever, and to a large degree, without remorse for being so. Yeah, I've seen "The Contender," and I used to have hope for an egalitarian world filled with gender equity that was safe for people other than white men. but I read the newspapers everday. Would even someone as excellent as Barabara Boxer have a chance in a country like this? The pragmatist in me says it's too big of a risk to take in 2008.

[Hatalles]

9. I agree with you but voted 'negative.'

Namely for the same reason MissWaverly posted. I would like to see a female president but at this time, I don't think it's possible that Bush voters would vote Democrat -- they already know we're the pro-woman party.

It's sad. :(

[MissWaverly]

2. I don't think the country is receptive enough

I am a woman, I liked Walter Mondale, he was defeated because his
running mate for VP was a woman, Geraldine Ferraro, I voted for him,
but this country is being marginalized over issues that I thought were laid to rest 90 years ago, seperation of church and state, we
really need a win, we need someone with broad base appeal.

[Ian David]

12. Little known secret: You need to insert a penis to open the launch codes

It's true!

Lyndon B. Johnson came up with the idea to keep his wife from launching an attack while he slept.

Why do you think the penis has been nicknamed "The Johnson"?

This is why we can never have a female president. She wouldn't have any way to open the briefcase ("The Football") containing the launch codes.

The only women qualified would therefore be Ann Coulter or Rue Paul.

[MissWaverly]

15. look I know I am being mocked

but I was a big Mondale fan, and I am convinced that his choice for
VP lost the election, if this world was perfect, no one would interfere when gays want to marry, blacks would be able to vote without question and campaign funding and the campaign season itself
would be paired down to prevent wholesale control of government by
lobbyists.

[Ian David]

18. I'm sorry, I don't mean to mock you.

It's not your fault (I think) that you don't have a penis.

I was just trying to satarize the idea that somehow one needs the propper plumbing to be President.

Obviously not.

We already have a president without balls who compensates by fondling farm animals.

[MissWaverly]

23. great photo

I like how Barney is so relaxed when he's with him-NOT, Barney is a Democrat. I understand what you're saying but I was really fired up
for Mondale and then to see him go down like that, I was young and very idealistic, I learned then that can't whip people over the head with progress, now if a woman was able to emerge that had the popular
approval of the people, like Clinton when he goes into a bookstore, people just run to him, he has the magnetic appeal of the masses.

[ellenfl]

47. couldn't she use her huband's 'johnson'? or a cigar? eom

:smoke:

[XemaSab]

50. A female president would never WANT

to open the briefcase, so the issue would never come up.

A woman would never want to do this because women aren't trying to compensate for anything SMALL.

[beyurslf]

41. Seems like a quite a leap to say MOndale lost in 84 because he picked

a woman as VP. She had quite a few problems that were not associated with being a woman... and Mondale had a few of his own too.

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[Mountainman]

5. We were use to seeing strong women leading other countries,

(Golda Meir, Indira Gandhi and Margaret Thatcher) I don't see it as much of a leap to having a strong woman President of our country.

[bobthedrummer]

6. I think the time has come for true equality, run on merits regardless of

gender. It shouldn't freak out anyone today if the candidate is a woman in 2008.

OTOH, I'm in the minority according to this poll.

[Ian David]

19. Evita Peron, Imelda Marcos

Sorry, just having fun.

[gumby]

7. Ask the voting machines.

They'll tell you the answer.

[MissWaverly]

8. yes, maybe we could ask a programmer

what is the syntax for B_U_S_H and run someone with a name 1 value off like BRUSH, or BLUSH or even SCHUB

[halobeam]

10. IMO... a woman should run for VP first

I happen to like Hillary. Not everything about her, but enough. I still wouldn't want her to run for President, we'd lose on the fact she's a woman BEFORE we'd lose on any other fact about her. If she made it as VP to a great candidate in '08, then I could see it being a greater possibility in the coming years.

[cestpaspossible]

24. you mean WIN as vp first?

*cough* Geraldine Ferraro

[Ian David]

11. Prior to Bill Clinton, women never voted as a bloc. Now they do.

I just hope to god they don't nominate Hillary.

I'd be tempted to donate money to the Republican Swiftboat campaign against Hillary, except I'd rather the Republicans waste their own money on that.

[MissWaverly]

13. I am against nepotism

why is this family feud, I don't think that GWB is his Dad, and
I don't think Hilary is Bill, I respect Bill, and I think Hilary
is an intelligent senator but I want a clean slate in '08, I want
us to really move on, I don't want a government official's uncle, aunt, brother, son, daughter, wife, sister, mother, father to run for office, I want to judge someone on their ability not their last
name. I think that nepotism has brought us a lot of grief in this country.

[Ian David]

14. I'm judging Hillary on just what she's personally said since November

She's becoming Musgrave-Lite.

[MissWaverly]

17. I agree with you

But I don't want her wrapping herself up in Bill's presidential appeal, I think that the Bush's do that, it works, but it just irks
me. I can just see her now up on the podium holding his hand, with
the Big Dawg making his usual witty remarks, that's not a real campaign. She has not been a senator for that long either, where her
husband had solid credentials as a governor. Governors tend to get
elected, Senators do not have such broad appeal.

[Montauk6]

16. Does that include Chris Heinz, the John-John of the New Millenium?

[MissWaverly]

20. I am talking about presidential candidates

there has been some familys like Daly in Chicago which have solid records, but we are now into to our 12 year reign (maybe if he does his full term) of the Bush family, I want to move on, so if Hilary won, that would mean that the Clinton family would have 12 maybe 16 years of rule, what are we talking about the House
of Windsor here??? This is a DEMOCRACY, and now we have ruling
families, next they have crowns.

[Montauk6]

42. Next they have crowns???

My dear, have you not heard of the Rev. Sun Myung Moon???

[MissWaverly]

45. Yes, I know but he's not president of the US-yet

[BlueIris]

29. Respectfully...

...shhh! Please don't call him that. I really like Chris Heinz and want to see him succeed long term. Don't give anyone any bad ideas.

[AntiCoup2K4]

21. I would vote for Boxer, I will not vote for Hillary.

But I don't beleive Boxer can win either, as she's a Senator.

[cestpaspossible]

22. I'll vote for the person I think is best for the job.

No matter what their gender.

[PresidentObama]

25. Yes and no

Boxer yes.

Hillary, only if she gets the nomination.

Otherwise I'm sticking with John Kerry :)

[erpowers]

27. Barbara Boxer

Barbara Boxer proves that a woman running for President on a Democratic ticket would be a positive thing. Early in the year she was strong enough and willing to take on the Republicans when some of her collegues were not. On three major occasions (the election debate, the Rice Confirmation hearing, and the John Bolton issue)she was willing to stand up for the party.

I would at least like to see her in the primaries. I would like to she her run with Russ Feingold as his Vice President.

[bobthedrummer]

28. The ticket you described would be a winning one imho.

:thumbsup:

[realFedUp]

30. Women usually clean up the mess

Any elected President after Bush leaves
will have a gigantic mess (if we haven't
been nuked into kingdom come). It will
be a near impossible task. I'll vote
for the person who realizes there's
a mess and relishes cleaning it up.

[marions ghost]

31. too important, can't risk it

there is a definite bias against women, no matter how much we try to wish it away. Gonna need all the votes they don't manage to thwart by devious means.

[Maine-ah]

32. I personally would love a woman president

however, the old white men running this country wouldn't let it happen.

It will happen eventually, I'm sure of it. I just doubt it will in my lifetime.

[bobthedrummer]

33. That makes me sad when I hear that, the struggle continues under

a fascist government that is trying to undo all the progress of history that doesn't mesh with their ideology from Leo Strauss and warm support from insane religious militarists both in and out of uniform.

Women are secondary to them all, it is taboo to step out of defined roles with them.

[Sapphire Blue]

34. From the Chisolm Trail to the Boxer Rebellion... positive steps forward

... to victory.

[Zhade]

35. Judging by the results, I'd say sexism is too prevalent.

Of course, those voting negative may not be sexist, but only recognizing sexism in the voting public.

Ow, now my head hurts!

[Sapphire Blue]

37. If that's the case, sexism needs to be recognized, refuted, and discarded

... rather than perpetuated.

[Zhade]

39. Damn straight!

NT!

[nickshepDEM]

36. Blanche Lincoln is the only woman with a chance...eom

[Zynx]

43. I largely agree with that.

[Gyre]

38. Don't we enough effin problems?

Now you want to take-on the great unknown for 2008? Are you insane? While we're at it, lets see if we can find a black woman to nominate.

Gyre

[beyurslf]

40. I am 100% dedicated to supporting a woman in 2008 just because I think

it is time. We have more than enough qualified women to run.

[newfaceinhell]

44. I don't care about the candidates sex in and of itself

And i tend to think that most Americans would feel similarly. Boxer would be a fantastic candidate simply because of her beliefs and her strength of character. She'd doubtless face an outporing of sexist abuse from the right (although of course if Elizabeth Dole was the GOP candidate, the time would suddenly be right for a woman president), but an ugly outburst of misogyny from the other side could help her more than it hurts.

[Mythsaje]

46. I'm all for

a female candidate for President. But not a big fan of Hillary for a variety of reasons. I guess I don't trust her.

My Dad, vietnam vet, ex-biker, Perot voter, and present Democrat by default, says he'd vote for her or any other woman in a heartbeat. He's 62. I think that says something.

I like Boxer's working class roots, but don't know a lot about her otherwise.

[ellenfl]

48. i don't think 2008 is the time to 'experiment' with

running a woman for president. that election is way too important. i personally would vote for any of the dem woman in government because they are all more qualified than our present king . . . er, president. hell, laura bush is more qualified than dubya . . . at least she can read.

ellen fl :smoke:

[Nimrod]

49. I'd vote for a woman, but it would be WAY negative

I've said this before, and want to state that my choice of language here is just to make a point:

We just had over half the country vote against fags. Not vote FOR a president, but vote AGAINST fags. Now with that in mind, can you imagine what would happen if we put a skirt up for office?

Never work. Amurka is too fuckin' stupid for it to happen. Give it a few more generations.