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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 04:18 PM
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Put Democracy in The Pledge of Allegiance!
"I Pledge Allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, it's Flag, and the Republic for which they create and stand. One Nation indivisible, with liberty, and justice for ALL."

Magus Amathion

Some things truly are self evident. Chief amongst them is our God. Like America, who's beginnings He has blessed, He is One and stands for All. Let no man or group of men put assunder that which God had joined together and blessed. He cannot be destroyed but we can.



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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 04:20 PM
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1. Great "windmill" idea.
Whether or not it happens doesn't matter as much as the fact that we fight for it - on principle. Nice.

NGU.


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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 05:49 PM
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7. Let it be!
Edited on Thu May-05-05 05:50 PM by Wizard777
If it is Gods will for mankind to be restored to the freewill he has gifted them with. Like the Arch of a new covenant it shall be unstoppable. It is Corbain.
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pnutchuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 04:25 PM
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2. Good idea! nt
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 04:34 PM
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3. Who's God you talking about?
You were doing alright till you got to the second sentence of the last paragraph.

Our Founding Fathers were trying to get away from that God.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 05:29 PM
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5. The Bridge to Freedom has been crossed.
Edited on Thu May-05-05 05:57 PM by Wizard777
Ahura Mazda, Adonai Sabaoth, Jehova, Allah, Etc. What is a generic all encompassing name for God? DOH!

The second paragarph is merely my justification. The pledge was written by a minister. It was altered by Statesmen is search of a more visible idol of God to pay tribute to. This version is written by a priest. I can see God in this version. Sure you have to look a little harder. But he is undeniably there. He is self evident (self revealing.)He can never be hidden from those who seek Him.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 04:49 PM
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4. How about this:
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under democracy, with liberty and justice for all."

Writer.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 05:41 PM
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6. Focus. No Distractions.
What do we send our toops to defend from enemy's foreign and domestic? It is the US Constitution to which the raising of our flag is the symbol of it's Victory. Any day the Flag flies anywhere The US Constitution has claimed that day to be in Freedom and not a Kingdom.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 07:34 PM
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8. Yeah, but
I can hear the RWingers saying, "We're a republic, not a democracy." They love to say that. They base their remarks on the fact that our early founders did reject "pure democracy" Greek style. This of course is today total nonsense. We don't have pure democracy and never did. But they persist in this fantasy.BTW, when you get in one of these debates about democracy with them, ask them if they favor those initiative/recall referenda that are so popular in western states. If that ain't pure democracy, I don't know what is.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:53 PM
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9. Can the fantasy visions of future realities truly exist?
Yes, as surely as this Wizard lives in America. I have to give them credit for advancing their agenda far beyond ours. I guess we figured our work was over when the Constitution was signed. But it had only just begun. The truth of the matter is this is a democratic republic that cannot be divided as if it were chattel in the divorce of the democratic republican party. Though We The People are to be held as innocent. We are not children that they can fight each other for the affections of to win the award of the parent of the four years. Now we wonder how we became so abused by Nanny Government. This country is the sole property of We The People. The government is to serve the people. With the parties perpetuating the governments existence in selecting and offering the people the most capable of serving the Constitution amongst us. A republic is state of being that is not perfect. How many before us have fallen? Democracy is a practice that may never be perfected. That is why we must always seek to form that more perfect union. When one is exhalted above the other. There is no equality of man or law. There is only imbalance. If we lose out balance will we not fall too? This is not an either or proposition. The Constitution demand that we have both a Democracy and a Republic. Anything else is not the America of our Constitution. Accept no substitutes.
We The People have allowed our Constitution to remain unmentioned in our Pledge of Allegiance. Now we wonder why our rights are evaporating and our protection being canned like milk. While we cry out for the nurturing of freedom. God has been taken from His Heaven and imprisoned in our Affirmation. When our Constitution has forbidden it and our God has warned us against giving him shapes that are cold and dead. Like the cold dead writing upon a page. It does not change and He must change like each new day. Now we wonder why we live in the Stagnation. Hypocrisy in the name God an Abomination. God will bless you for swearing allegiance to Him in your Church's and curse you for swearing allegiance to him from your statehouses. Only God can create Heaven on earth. It is our duty to create America upon earth and perpetuate it with each new day.
Be it by war of weapon or word. To deliver this country to Prince or Potentate is an act of treason against our Constitution and by it's extension our country.

How is that for an answer?

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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 06:35 PM
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10. Healing the casm
I have seen that which we left and acknowledge that which we should rightly stand for. Filled with the need for that greatest strength in unity. I take hold of that bridge that has brought us to a place from which we may declare freedom for all. I pray to God and ask him to help us drawal upon it with all his might. To join that distant land of our Forefathers to this future place. To force out the darkness of corruption hiding in the casm and sickening this land with great and many venoms. To bring the two lands parted together to be as one. To erase that line drawn by man with err upon the ground that began the casm with and replace it with His perfect blessings. To heal the rent and create one land upon which all people may stand in the light of His Glory.

Amen
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