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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 01:18 PM
Original message
What's your spin on this???
Edited on Sat Apr-30-05 02:14 PM by MissWaverly
Posted this elsewhere but thought it deserved it's own thread
Please feel free to add any that I have missed

There's just too many fake incidents since 2000
There was the capture of Sadaam that was "recreated"
There were the interrogations at GITMO that were "faked" for visitors
There was the fake pulling down of Sadaam's statue, small crowd
carefully screened
There were fake WMD's, & biological weapons
The FBI is investigating fake Republican campaign contributions in OH
There was a fake terror alert in Warren County, OH in the 04 election
There was the fake riot by men in suits to stop recount FL '00
There were fake Secret Service throwing out Dems at townhall mtg
There were the fake allegations by Swift Boaters on Kerry war record
There were the fake memos on GWB's war service, real ones disappeared
There was the fake reporter/with fake name in WH press room 2 years
There were the fake tax cuts where they were sucking our pension money from social security to run the country
There were fake FBI agents at Abu Ghraib
There were fake Bush supporters, GI's photoshopped make a crowd in 04
There was the fake 9-11 report
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 01:43 PM
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1. Missed the big one, fake president
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 01:48 PM
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2. Thanks, I knew I left something out
anything else??? I still have the feeling something is missing.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 01:51 PM
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3. DEMOCRACY!!!!!!!!!
That's what you're missing...

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Berserker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 02:03 PM
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4. The FAKE 9/11 commision report
how can that be missed?
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 02:04 PM
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5. The faked crowd of servicemembers (groups duplicated throughout photo)
Remember that one? It had a photo of a "rally" :eyes: and there were certain groups of people that had been cut and pasted to make it look like more people.

What about the fake "ranch" ?
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 02:06 PM
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6. You Forgot One!
Fake FBI Agents at Abu Ghraib (Actually CIA Agents).
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 02:11 PM
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7. thanks, great ideas people
you see I added them to the list, I was still able to edit post
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 02:29 PM
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8. The FAKE "News" sent to the MSM by the White House.
Fake commentaries and Editorials by FAKE pundits who were actually PAID publicists.

FAKE costs estimates for the Medicare Bill.

FAKE reports of Saddam in cahoots with Al-Qaeda.

FAKE rescue of Jessica Lynch.

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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 02:33 PM
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9. Great catch
too bad I can't add it to the list, but for all those who claim
that 9-11 was exactly as reported by the MSM or that anyone who
can't believe the election 2004 was bogus, look at the last 5 years,
in fact, we can say fake president, because Gore actually rec'd more
votes than Bush in 2000.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 02:39 PM
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10. more:
FAKE turkey at Thanksgiving in Iraq.

FAKE report that AF! had been spotted enroute to Iraq for the rubber turkey incident.


FAKE report that AF1 was being targeted by terrorists on 911.
The republicans were sooo embarrassed by bush*s panic on 911 that they COMPLETELY FABRICATED the reports to cover for bush*s frightened run across half of America to "get out of harm's way"!

FAKE photo op for MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
FAKE cover story for Mission ACCOMPLISHED banner.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 02:41 PM
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11. FAKE cowboy from TEXAS.
bush* is from Connecticut and is afraid of horses.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 03:56 PM
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12. Great, you are definitely on fire!
I had forgotten about the fake turkey episode, and you are definitely right about the fake cowboy, his brother Jeb doesn't project a "Texas personna" at all.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 04:03 PM
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13. Fake town hall meetings, pre-election and for
the SS boondoggles, with repugs hand-selected so no liberal voices could be heard.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 04:24 PM
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14. Another excellent post
yes, how could I have forgotten their complete phoniness, remember when Bush lost his place and said the woman's age before her daughter mentioned it.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 04:34 PM
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15. Faked US & Iraqi election results? Is it that far off to assume this?
As you point out, so many other things have been proven to have been faked.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 04:35 PM
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16. Faked photos of Kerry w/ Jane Fonda. Fake Swiftboat testimony...
...faked Kerry quotes on FOX news. Fake Kerry/intern sex scandal on CNN, etc.

FAKE. FAKE. FAKE.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 04:44 PM
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17. I think both elections were faked
Edited on Sat Apr-30-05 04:45 PM by MissWaverly
and I forgot fake advisors on Iraq
we have Mr. Chalabi, who is now the oil minister
and
"Curveball" our official informant on WMD's

But I agree with you Dr. Fate, what you said about the fake
news like the story that Democrats were behind the Terri
Schiavo Republican (Rep. Martinez's office) Talking Points is
that they are never really are held accountable and never have
to retract them.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 04:50 PM
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18. We should speak of "Bush" and the "the media" as the same entity.
Both constantly present us with the exact same,fake baloney.

Fake Plastic surgery & fake acting lessons does not make "reporting."
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 05:06 PM
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19. I think that Bush is a constant competitor
the type of person who jumps in front of you to get to the elevator
first, I think that his greatest pleasure is in taking a position that people despise and then beating them into accepting it. I think that he has bullied the media into printing this current swill but I think the media hates and fears him (the majority who are not
his sycophants).
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 05:26 PM
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22. "...jumps in front of you to get to the elevator..."
Ah, and recall that memorable pic of the blivet pushing Clinton out of the way at the opening of CLINTON's library? That picture told volumes!
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 05:30 PM
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23. I had forgotten about that, you are so right!
that fits him to a "T"
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 05:06 PM
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20. Livinf Down Here In Florida...
I certainly AGREE that BOTH elections were FAKE.

They called Florida too quick and jumped up to Ohio for a DIE-VERSION!
:nuke: :grr: :mad:


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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-05 05:12 PM
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21. I totally agree
we should also change the electoral process so that there are no swing states, I thought it was an unfair burden to both Ohio and Florida and would help to prevent rigged elections by making it
based on popular vote for the entire country.
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Hidden Stillness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 12:23 AM
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24. No Government; Only Corporations
This all seems to me to be the inevitable end-result of the corporate takeover of government, and the importation of its ways to what used to be the ways of government. Suddenly, from the corporate world, you have all these consultants and managers--PR-style--of information; instruction on appearing on the media; secrecy as to how laws are now made and slander campaigns against anyone who tries to stop it. The operations of government are not open anymore, but totally secret, and nobody answers questions about anything, but instead laughs at and ridicules anyone who complains about the system now--a well-oiled machine. The concern is not, now, for the greatest good for the greatest number of people, but the opposite, a narrowing-down of all knowledge about the operation to a very few "insiders" who now put on a show for the rest of us, managing and manipulating the presentation of things so that it seems that everything this cabal does is "popular" and "approved-of."

All law is now tailored toward increasing profit and market share of individual, huge corporations, which is why the laws they pass make no sense, never address our concerns, and even make problems such as unemployment and pollution worse. This fascistic control of the way everything will be referred to, and the way everything will be done, and heavy punishment of anyone who has any other concern but the advancement of the corporate system, is now the one total way of public life here. They have merged themselves to a very small number of huge corporations owning almost all public information outlets, because they had already killed the enforcement of anti-trust laws; they have an unbroken flow of only their propaganda, unanswered, because they killed the "equal time" Fairness Doctrine; and all coverage of their "President"/oil executive, is promotion, hype, PR, just like the corporate world, a neverending commercial; not news--there is no news anymore. All the fake events with fake audiences and fake questions, and fake "reporters" covering these things--it only would have been unethical if you had had the old "honesty" framework. "It's all business" now. All these things are melding together--fake "elections" on corporate vote "counting" machines, cheerleading corporate "news" media owned by the same corporations, wars started so these same corporations can price-gouge the American armed forces or can open up new markets, new laws that make previously open Congressional processes now secret, a media that will not report on it--one huge, interlocking conspiracy.

This is the way everything will be handled from now on, with us on the outside looking in, at what used to be our country.
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Hidden Stillness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 12:24 AM
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25. No Government; Only Corporations
This all seems to me to be the inevitable end-result of the corporate takeover of government, and the importation of its ways to what used to be the ways of government. Suddenly, from the corporate world, you have all these consultants and managers--PR-style--of information; instruction on appearing on the media; secrecy as to how laws are now made and slander campaigns against anyone who tries to stop it. The operations of government are not open anymore, but totally secret, and nobody answers questions about anything, but instead laughs at and ridicules anyone who complains about the system now--a well-oiled machine. The concern is not, now, for the greatest good for the greatest number of people, but the opposite, a narrowing-down of all knowledge about the operation to a very few "insiders" who now put on a show for the rest of us, managing and manipulating the presentation of things so that it seems that everything this cabal does is "popular" and "approved-of."

All law is now tailored toward increasing profit and market share of individual, huge corporations, which is why the laws they pass make no sense, never address our concerns, and even make problems such as unemployment and pollution worse. This fascistic control of the way everything will be referred to, and the way everything will be done, and heavy punishment of anyone who has any other concern but the advancement of the corporate system, is now the one total way of public life here. They have merged themselves to a very small number of huge corporations owning almost all public information outlets, because they had already killed the enforcement of anti-trust laws; they have an unbroken flow of only their propaganda, unanswered, because they killed the "equal time" Fairness Doctrine; and all coverage of their "President"/oil executive, is promotion, hype, PR, just like the corporate world, a neverending commercial; not news--there is no news anymore. All the fake events with fake audiences and fake questions, and fake "reporters" covering these things--it only would have been unethical if you had had the old "honesty" framework. "It's all business" now. All these things are melding together--fake "elections" on corporate vote "counting" machines, cheerleading corporate "news" media owned by the same corporations, wars started so these same corporations can price-gouge the American armed forces or can open up new markets, new laws that make previously open Congressional processes now secret, a media that will not report on it--one huge, interlocking conspiracy.

This is the way everything will be handled from now on, with us on the outside looking in, at what used to be our country.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 12:26 AM
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26. fake commercials n/t
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 12:39 AM
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27. Fake commercials selling policies
selling specific Administration Positions. General Accounting Office found this to be illegal.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5016440

WASHINGTON - The Bush administration’s promotion of the new Medicare law through videos made to look like news reports violated a prohibition against using public money for propaganda, Congress’ General Accounting Office said Wednesday.

The materials in English and Spanish were produced by the Health and Human Services Department but did not identify their source. The videos, or parts of them, aired on at least 40 television stations in March, the department said.

The GAO report was issued just as the administration was trying to blunt criticism of the new law by trumpeting discounts for people who use Medicare-approved drug cards when filling their prescriptions.

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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 12:44 AM
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28. Fake Social Security Crisis
Look over here while my friends get rich
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 12:47 AM
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29. Fake CBS documents re: Bush National Guard
the story became about the forgeries rather than the the truth of Bush's Guard Service
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 12:52 AM
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30. Fake threat from a guy we went to war to pull from a hole
in the ground.

No weapons of mass destruction
No chemical or biological threat
No organized resistence.

No threat to America.
Fake threat.
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 12:54 AM
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32. Fake hair
He's gotta look good for the adoring Fristians.
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 01:02 AM
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33. Fake Environmental Policies.
Edited on Sun May-01-05 01:03 AM by dave29
"Healthy Skies, brought to you by Charcoal, Ozone and Soot"
"Healthy Forests, brought to you by Timber, Logging and Treemoval."

Mercury isn't a poison sometimes.
Coal, it's the wave of the future.
Nucular Power is our only hope.
Pristine Wildlife Refuges should be sacraficed for the sake of SUV's
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lady lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 12:54 AM
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31. Fake ability to answer reporters' questions
or to debate John Kerry without an earpiece.
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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 01:10 AM
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34. It's real easy to figure out...
They don't want their own people to find out reality so they hide the truth 180 degrees from where you would expect to find it.

I just saw this in the Washington Post

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/04/30/AR2005043001147_pf.html

<snip>
When the deal was done, Kidan moved to Florida to run SunCruz. Abramoff stayed in D.C.

Abramoff and Kidan started paying themselves $500,000-a-year salaries. Among the first checks Kidan wrote were payments totaling $310,000 that he sent to Abramoff to help pay for the sports skyboxes at FedEx Field, MCI Center and Camden Yards.

Operating out of SunCruz's offices near Fort Lauderdale, Kidan moved into a $4,300-a-month luxury condo paid for by SunCruz and bought a 34-foot powerboat. He quickly put his mark on the business, firing SunCruz employees including several of Boulis's friends and relatives.
</snip>

The company runs cruise ship casinos that sail out to international waters to avoid the state gambling laws. A ship that makes multiple daily trips into international waters would offer a great vehicle to return with contraband. Could they have been running drugs?
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 02:54 AM
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38. So not only did *ush take money from Abramoff.....
it was probably money he earned from running drugs? Oh, proof of that would be awesome.

Or maybe it was another torture space off US soil? There are 2 girls (16 or so) that were supposedly taken from their families because they were suspected suicide bombers.
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 01:13 AM
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35. Fake Controversy
Clinton staffers trash White House

Al Gore is a Big Fat Liar if you listen to selected portions of his statements.

John Kerry faked his injuries, we have eye-witnesses.

and, swear to god, he had botox.

Max Cleland is an unpatriotic loser.

John McCain has illegitimate children and is probably crazy.

Howard Dean should stop complaining about secrecy over the National Energy Policy as gas prices continue to rise, and tell us what he was up to while balancing budgets in Vermont. Surely something sinister.




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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 02:31 AM
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36. IT'S ALL FAKE! IT'S ALL LIES!
Edited on Sun May-01-05 02:32 AM by TheGoldenRule
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 02:49 AM
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37. Fake "Family Values" ... no one can name them all, but....
we'll try.

Fake "Compassionate/Christian Conservative"

Fake "Survelience photos from satelite that prove the Italian car they didn't know was coming with the rescued reporter was speeding at the time the fired on the car killing an Italian Secret Service agent."

Fake "Support for AARP until they decided to speak up about Social Security - then FAKE ads about how AARP endorsed gays and hated the military."

Fake kisses, Lieberman and Condi....

Fake "Out of Office messages" "Hi, this is George Bush and I approved this message. I'm working from home today, but I will get back to you in a few days.... um weeks.... better make that a month or so. Try not to blow up the country while I'm gone. Hear?"
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 09:14 AM
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39. Great job folks
Edited on Sun May-01-05 09:17 AM by MissWaverly
I had forgotten the fake accusations brought up against McCain and Cleland, they should have been at the top of my list.
esp. for Max Cleland, who I feel is great guy and he did an outstanding job on the 9-11 commission
& the false accusation that Clinton staffers trashed the White House
really set the tone for this administration
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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 11:50 AM
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40. Fake 911 happenings with fake 911 investigation panel. n/t
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 01:54 PM
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41. I think that an independent investigation was
Edited on Sun May-01-05 02:54 PM by MissWaverly
impossible under the Bush administration, it should have been conducted by the UN

..."A minority of the commissioners will be able to see a minority of the {PDB} documents that the White House has already said is pertinent. And then a minority of the commissioners will have to brief the rest of the commissioners on what the White House thinks is appropriate. But they first have to report to the White House what they are going to tell the other commissioners."
page 155, Chapter THE NEED FOR A FULL INVESTIGATION from the
New Pearl Harbor by David Griffin www.interlinkbooks.com
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