Headsup: White House says if they THINK you MIGHT disrupt, they can eject

[Nothing Without Hope]

you from a GOP rally. No wonder the poster of this important thread titled it

Thoughtcrime Leads to Propaganda Rally Ejection

Here's the thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x122245

It's official: Orwell's Thought Police have arrived. Amazingly, so far this thread has attracted almost no attention at DU and has not even made the Greatest Page, and that needs to change, Top GOP spokesmen, including from the White House itself (McClellan) have handed us a golden public relations opportunity by stating in quotable words what we already know: Freedom of Speech is less than nothing to them, and even the THOUGHT that someone MIGHT disrupt a GOP political event is enough to expel them. That is an admission that would repel most Americans, and we need to get word of it OUT!

Read the thread and get the word out to friends and to the media! Links to DU threads with media contact info are posted in a reply (#4) in that thread.

NOTE THAT THE LINK TO THE NEWSPAPER ARTICLE IN THE OPENING POST DOESN’T WORK, AND IT IS CORRECTED IN REPLY #5

Edited to add: If you agree that this is important, don't vote for THIS thread, go to the one linked to above.

Edited to add #2: The event that sparked all this and that was being referred to by McClellan was TAXPAYER-FUNDED, an official Bush speech:

(from the newspaper article linked to in the thread - correct link in Reply #5):
Unlike campaign events, which are deemed private and therefore could legally limit protesters, Bush's Social Security speech at the Wings over the Rockies Museum was an official White House event funded by the taxpayers.

Edited to add #3: This was the Denver event where 3 people were ejected by 2 men, one of them masquerading as Secret Service, because of a bumper sticker.

[EVDebs]

1. Book 'Codenames' shows FEMA is ready for martial law declaration

and they only have to give the word and "pffffffffffft" say goodbye to the US Constitution.

[sarcasmo]

17. I have been saying Martial Law in 08 maybe it will be sooner.

[AuntiBush]

22. Heard this 3 times yesterday on C-Span in Passing

On Senate floor... in extreme passing and can find nothing else on this. This is the first place someone's mentioned it.

Sooner might be right. Read below.

by Michel Chossudovsky
The Department of Homeland Security recently carried out an extensive anti-terrorist exercise entitled TOPOFF 3 (April 4-8, 2005). The "drill" was described by officials as "a multilayered approach to improving North American security".
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO504B.html

In case anyone's wondering what "Marshall Law" is it includes each and everyone of us, as well as our Democrat leaders, and so on and so forth. If I'm not mistaken, isn't there rumors of special troops that can and will overrule the Nat'l Guard?

Wikipedia defines "Martial Law:"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_law as -

Martial law is the system of rules that takes effect (usually after a formal declaration) when a military authority takes control of the normal administration of justice (and usually of the whole state).

Martial law is instituted most often when it becomes necessary to favour the activity of military authorities and organizations, usually for urgent unforeseen needs, and when the normal institutions of justice either cannot function or could be deemed too slow or too weak for the new situation, i.e. due to war or civil disorder, in occupied territory, or after a coup d'état. The need to preserve the public order during an emergency is the essential goal of martial law.

Usually martial law reduces some of the personal rights ordinarily granted to the citizen, limits the length of the trial processes, and prescribes more severe penalties than ordinary law. In many countries martial law prescribes the death penalty for certain crimes, even if ordinary law doesn't contain that crime or punishment in its system.

I think this is putting it mildly. Naw... can't be.

[AuntiBush]

23. On Note

More Snips from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_disorder

Typically, the severity of the action coincides with public outrage. Examples of civil disorder include, but are not necessarily limited to: parades; sit-ins; or riots; sabotage; and other forms of crime. It is intended to be a demonstration to the public and the government, but can escalate into general chaos.

Frequently, participants in a civil disorder are not in agreement about appropriate behavior. As was the case in the WTO Meeting of 1999, a vast majority of protesters were peaceful, and a small, highly visible minority of anarchists were responsible for a vast majority of damage.

Any civil disorder is a delicate balance of power, and indeed, a political power struggle of some sort is typically the root cause of any such conflict. Often, public demonstrations are viewed as the last resort of political organizations. If the power equation in a civil disorder becomes unbalanced, the result is either oppression or riot. Police brutality is a frequent result of civil disorder.

[Nothing Without Hope]

2. kick n/t

[Nothing Without Hope]

3. kick - hard to keep the main thread visible n/t

[Montauk6]

4. The next step is portable heart monitors.

[Nothing Without Hope]

5. kick - read the whole newspaper article in the main thread!

the correct link is given in the replies, the one in the opening post doesn't work.

Then start getting the word out: it's OFFICIAL now, the White House has dismissed the validity of free speech rights in a taxpayer-funded publc event. Let's make them rethink that, shall we?

And remember, this was done with impersonation of the Secret Service as well. One of the two men that ejected the Denver 3 has been identified as a leader of the Young Republicans, and the other - the one with the earpiece - has been having his identify protected. From McClellan's comments, he may be a White House employee.

Go read the article in the other thread and post your comments there. This is just a headsup.

[blm]

6. And in Florida, now, they can shoot you cuz they feel "threatened" by

citizen Democrats.

[Wizard777]

7. In the Baltimore City Police Department shooting someone execution style

Is considered a good shoot.

[paineinthearse]

8. Thanks for doing this. Oftentimes posts in the "backwater" forums

...do not get the attention they deserve.

That is why I trust those denizens to use the "greatest" feature and I cruise the "greatest" forum at least once per day.

:applause:

[Nothing Without Hope]

11. It's true - I rarely check the "articles and editorials" forum, where this

was posted. After it is gone from the Greatest Page tomorrow, I'll repost on the original article in GD-P so we can have a chance to keep it visible long enough to do some good.

And thank YOU for keeping watch all around DU for important posts like this!
:yourock:

[Wizard777]

9. Meanwhile in Ohio

A radical rightwing Christian group has overthrown a radio station and broadcasted their political positions. The FBI is clueless to this attack. mayeb if federal law enforcement wasn't consumed with preventing good people from speaking out against a president. They could deal with these christian terrorist overthrowing government installations. Besides if Bush was a real leader he wouldn't need that porkchop tied around his neck and a goon squad to deal with anyone that won't take the porkchop and shut up.

[Nothing Without Hope]

12. Got a link? This is an important Freedom of Speech as well as

Separation of Church and State event - we need to know about it and spread the word. If you don't have a link, even a name that can be googled might yield more information.

Thanks!

[Nikki Stone 1]

10. Match this up with REAL-ID and you've got the total-itarian picture

Info on real ID is on my illegal immigration thread. It's all of a piece.

Edited to add link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1753066

[Wizard777]

13. I'm coded out

My former radio station (AA affiliate) ATTACKED by Reich Fundies!!

This is the thread on the board with a link. You have no idea how many headaches a few clicks will save me. Between Vsb and html Etc. I'm just about :crazy:

[Nothing Without Hope]

14. kick - keeping this headsup visible so you find the article on the main

thread - this is IMPORTANT.

[kerrygoddess]

15. Strip Searched Teachers Sue Over Arrest at Bush Campaign Rally

Strip Searched Teachers Sue Over Arrest at Bush Campaign Rally
29 April 2005

This is outrageous! On September 3, 2004, two female teachers, both in their 50’s were arrested at a Bush campaign and subsequently STRIP-SEARCHED at the local county jail.

Two teachers arrested at a 2004 campaign rally for President Bush and strip-searched at a county jail have filed a lawsuit alleging law officers conspired to violate their constitutional rights.

Alice McCabe and Christine Nelson, both in their 50s, were among five protesters arrested at the Sept. 3 rally. The pair were handcuffed, taken to the county jail, strip-searched and charged with criminal trespass. The charges were dropped months later.

"I believe the federal government behaved very badly in this situation," said David O'Brien, the women's attorney.

The lawsuit claims the strip search violated constitutional protections against unreasonable search and seizure. Typically suspects are searched only if authorities have cause to believe they possess a weapon or illegal drugs, O'Brien said.

"We don't think they had a reasonable belief that these two, 50-year-old school teachers had a weapon or contraband in their possession that day," O'Brien said, whose clients requested a jury trial and unspecified damages.

http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/default.asp?view=plink&id=801

[Nothing Without Hope]

16. I urge you to post a new thread on this case in the Free Speech forum

This is a new DU forum which was started because I asked for it, but then I have been negligent in getting it fully launched That needs to be addressed.

Headsups can be posted later in a main forum like GD-P if the thread disappears before being 'discovered." I will be trying to launch some awareness of the new - and so far underused - forum soon.

It's the most appropriate place for the story you have cited about the strip search. Tomorrow I will also post on the Denver 3, including the article that is the subject of this thread.

The new forum where I urge you to post this story of the strip-searched teachers is here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=319
And its name is Free Speech, Press, & Internet

[kerrygoddess]

19. Will do!

Thanks! It's been on BuzzFlash and the Daou Report all day and has gotten a lot of reads!

[NinetySix]

18. It's too bad that principle doesn't work in reverse.

Bush seems to be disrupting everything, from world stability to the national economy to social and political comity in the United States.

Can't we just call him a disruptor and throw him out of office? Oh yeah, there's that Constitution in the way. Not to worry, Bush will soon undermine the authority of that, too. So maybe he WILL find himself "ejected"....

[seabeyond]

20. gop rally? tax funded push on social security adressing WE

the people

this isnt gop rallies bush is having our tax dollar pay for. he is not on the campaign trails, he is trying ot sell us his ss plan, all of us, as a nation, under one president, all of ours.

[Nothing Without Hope]

21. It wasn't a GOP rally, it was an official presidential speech, paid for by

the taxpayers and on public property. The people were evicted by GOP pretending to be Secret Service because they had a bumpersticker on their car that was deemed anti-Bush. The speech was mostly about Social Security, so they probably expected some objections from any sane people that might be there.

This is very obviously unconsitutional, and the fact that the WH Press Secretary SUPPORTS it, saying that if the GOP people THINK you MIGHT disrupt an event they can kick you out, we can roast them for it.

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

24. Minority Report becomes reality

Isn't this usually referred to as "prior supression" of 1st Amendment Rights? It will all become moot in the near furture. I just saw on the crawl earlier today on MSNBC or CNN that 2 of the 6 Civils Rights Commission regional offices are being decommissioned due to a "lack of funding". We are spending down our treasury to bring democracy elsewhere while we busily disable our rights here in our own country due to lack of funding. Let them trample all over your civil and voting rights and what are you gonna do about it?

Who you gonna call? RightsBusters!!

[Nothing Without Hope]

25. kick n/t