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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:10 PM
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Is it just me or are the rethugs taking a nosedive??
It seems that ever since * embarked on a second term that the rethugs and their draconian schemes aren't going over very well.

In fact, it appears their determination to continue to screw up the country is meeting with LOTS of opposition.

Is this really happening or is it more wishful thinking on my part?

Comments?
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:12 PM
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1. I guess we'll see
about mid-next year, as we kick into election season.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:13 PM
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4. Of course, if the Diebold machines are still in place...
they'll continue to win. I am absolutely certain of that. :grr:
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:15 PM
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8. Yes, unfortunately.
But the talk that's circulating this time next year will be far more telling.

Especially if the Democrats manage to grow a spine, in terms of campaigning.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:23 PM
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11. That's the key: Dem's Need to Enhance their Spines!
Excellent point! Wow!
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:13 PM
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2. It's just you!
No, they really are stepping all over their own feet. That's true. Unfortunately, though, the Democrats have not yet been able to turn that into support for US.

But, at least there is now SOME opposition. That is a pleasant change from the miserable past four years of kowtowing to that crowd.
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:13 PM
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3. Their radical lunatic selves are now revealed.
They aren't acting nicey nicey anymore, repeating their mantra about morals and family values. People are now seeing what they actually MEAN by morals and family values---corporate governance with theorcratic overtones.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:13 PM
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5. Listen to Mike Malloy -- he's talking about this right now
bush's administration is done . . . it's over.

Interesting commentary.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:14 PM
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6. Here's hoping you are right
Especially since 2006 is right around the corner. The one thing that does worry me is that the right does seem to be winning on reproductive issues. The Dems are taking a page from their book. Other than that, I think (and hope) that the American public is waking up.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:15 PM
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7. no, I agree..they are tanking big time


Let's just hope it's not happening too soon before the next elections.

I'm starting to sense that the public is thoroughly appalled at what's going on. Probably Terry Schaivo was the straw that broke the camel's (or elephant's) back.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:19 PM
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9. Tanking big time in the AOL and CNN polls...
What was that the old Indian Chief said? "My heart soars!"
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:19 PM
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10. sure seems that way . . . which has me scared
since i'm not putting it past them to invade a country or pull some other sort of downright evil shit to rally their forces -- christ, they've done it before . . .
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:24 PM
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12. Sounds just like 2001
Edited on Thu Apr-28-05 09:26 PM by PATRICK
when Jeffords seemed to punch in a deflation of the ugly Bush machine. WE know better now, but so what? They will keep repeating until stopped, escalating when challenged, scapegoating when caught- successfully with a golden grip on the public's ability to know.

Then as now we are kept sidelined, distracted, away from any saving preparation or confrontation, the legitimacy of the joke election just one of many lies clouding the public mind from a safe distance.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:44 PM
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16. Yes, I know what you mean...
Let's try to keep a good thought-- which ain't always easy with this bunch.

Cautiously optimistic?? Great phrase
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:25 PM
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13. Tom DeLay (soon to be Tom DeLete) is down for the count...
...filibuster nuclear option was not accepted, 10 ultra conservative judges Bush appointed will likely not be confirmed, John Bolton, will not be the U.N. Ambassador, those all seem like small victories until you look at what happened this week:

the house squeaked the largest budget in U.S. history through $2.6 trillion while attaching a $70 billion tax cut for the wealthy and a $10 billion Medicaid spending cut. That will hurt just like Bush's last four budgets.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:46 PM
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17. Whistle, I just love it when you talk like that...
It's really something when you put all these events together, one after the other, isn't it??

I'm afraid to be hopeful, though-- we've all been trounced too many times by those creeps...

Time will tell
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 11:08 AM
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21. Every so often one gets those moments of clarity....
...at my stage in life it becomes important to get them down before I loose the understanding by by new official chatter and events that confuse and cloud the perception.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 06:52 PM
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23. That's wise of you.
:toast:
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:26 PM
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14. I don't know he's still big with the red states, check out the Zogby poll
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 11:11 AM
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22. Ahwaaa, Bush dosen't pay attention to the polls
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LetsGoMurphys Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 09:29 PM
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15. maybe they went to far..
and normally uninterested Americans are waking up.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 10:12 PM
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18. a wounded animal is the most dangerous.
do not count out the GOP.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 10:41 PM
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19. yeah

They voted for Dubya basically only to to deal with stuff in Values and Terrorism. (Kerry and Democrats were agreed with on all the other stuff.) Idiot Boy decides to try to use the election to get more tax reductions and such for his buddies and screw up Social Security to benefit them. Gee, surprise.

Then the Pubbies in Congress decide to get aggressive on Values. Well, there are two ways the Values argument can end up- either (a) the Religious Right gets its theocracy, or (b) the moderates finally decide that all this revival of (pre-)nineteenth century "morality" is a pile of crap that stinks intolerably and flush it. Happily, trying (a) results in (b). Values agenda goes finito. Tom DeLay provides the encore on the level of public politicians at some point in the future.

Well, what's really left for the Bush people to tout is "success" and "progress" in the War On Terror. (And a few marginal little other things...maybe. The beat-up-on-unpopular-minorities game seems to be leaving gay rights and going over to demonizing former criminals.)

But if you've followed the news and information closely, the Iraq game is disintegrating and turning into a Chinese fire drill. The actual "War on Terror" they're actually afraid to expose to public scrutiny, because the Guantanamo prison system is a cesspool of criminality and abuses that hands Al Qaeda the victory in this "war" on a silver platter.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 10:56 PM
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20. It's the religious over-reach
That is why he backed off the religious filibuster and tried to pretend he believes religion is personal. That really is where most Americans are at. Schiavo and the Fundy Fest backfired, big time.

Besides, Bush had HORRIBLE numbers before 9/11 too. People have never liked this guy, outside of terra terra terra.
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johnnyrocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 07:26 PM
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24. Not really, they passed lawsuit limits, credit card co. protection...
Edited on Fri Apr-29-05 07:27 PM by johnnyrocket
ANWR drilling, a budget that puts us DEEPER into debt ( 9 trillion ) and CUTS Medicare and other important things, on the verge of destroying the filibuster and the senate ( and then installing ultra-right wing judges in the Supreme Court )...this is a very scary time...and our country is being dismantled before our eyes.

You CANNOT underestimate the GOP, you can't let your guard down...they know nothing but power and power grabs...I really think we're all FUCKED!

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