Just fired off this email to the Family Research Council

[Roland99]

I had received the following today from the FRC:

By any measure, our Justice Sunday simulcast to millions of Americans has been a great success. My staff has surveyed various Senate offices today and found that Senators have been getting thousands of calls as a result of our Justice Sunday simulcast.

Democrats in the Senate did not expect this type of response from the public and as a result, some are looking for a compromise. They are not happy that their two- year concerted effort to sanitize the federal judiciary of people of faith and conservative values has finally been exposed.

Despite the intense public outcry to end these unprecedented filibusters, we've learned that many of the Democrats strongest allies are continuing to pressure the Democratic Senate leadership to continue such filibusters because they know it is the only way to defeat the expected nomination of a conservative candidate to the United States Supreme Court this summer.

People for the American Way, has just launched another highly-charged, misleading TV campaign in support of the filibuster of judges. MoveOn.org is bring its supporters to Capitol Hill next week and former Vice President Al Gore will soon give a "major public address" to try to pressure Senators to continue efforts against good judicial nominees. We must keep up the pressure on the floor of the United State Senate.

Nominees, who live according to their religious faith and those that hold to a conservative judicial philosophy, have a right to an up or down vote.

To ensure that they have that right, I need you to send an email right now to your Senators and ask them to end the filibuster of judicial nominees who are people of faith and conservative values. And I need you to forward this alert to your family and friends.

They disgust me to no end and the fact that they tainted my beautiful city with their hatred and hypocrisy sickens me even more. I felt compelled to send the following to them:

To whom it may concern,

I am curious as to why preventing filibusters are so important right now. I mean, a mere 7 years ago your organization was in support of them:

http://talkleft.com/new_archives/010459.html

In 1998, then-Senior FRC Writer and Analyst Steven Schwalm, appeared on NPR’s Talk of the Nation and had this to say about the filibuster against James Hormel, President’s Clinton’s ambassadorial nominee:

quote:
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...the Senate is a -- is not a majoritarian institution like the House of Representatives is. It is a deliberative body and it's got a number of checks and balances built into our government. This is one of those checks, in which a majority cannot just sheerly force its will, even if they have a majority of votes in some cases, that's why there are things like filibusters and other things that give minorities in the Senate some power to slow things up, to hold things up, and let things be aired properly.

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Also,

Analysis: Frist flip-flopped on filibusters (MSNBC)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7518425
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In 1999 and 2000, before he became majority leader, Frist was one of the Republican senators blocking President Clinton’s nominee to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, Richard Paez.

Frist and others repeatedly prevented a vote on the Paez nomination. In 1999, Frist and 52 other Republicans voted against a motion to proceed to a vote on Paez.
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And this:

http://www.swingstateproject.com/2005/04/sen_isakson_rga.php#comments
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Senator Isakson on the floor of the United States Senate extolling the virtues of the filibuster to protect the rights of the minority from being overrun by the majority.

"Don't you fear that the Shi'ites inevitably being in the majority, that you will be overrun? And he says, 'oh no, we have a secret weapon.' Mr. President, this is a Kurdish leader, in the middle of Iraq in the 21st century who said he had a secret weapon. And when asked what it was, he said one word, 'filibuster'" <...>

"It is one of their minority leaders, proudly stating one of the pillars and principles of our government, as the way they would ensure that the majority never overran the minority."
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Would you like to see the video of Sen. Isakson?

http://reid.senate.gov/video/isakson.mov


So, now all of a sudden filibusters are a *bad* thing because they go against *your* political agenda?

Jesus had no use for hypocrites.

You and your organization defile the name of Christ.

Disgustedly yours,

Feel free to send them your own thoughts:

https://www.frc.org/get.cfm?c=CONTACT_FRC&step=2&f=AL05D03&t=e&t=e&fix=1

[davidinalameda]

1. bravo!

[Jo March]

2. Nice letter!

Good on you! :thumbsup:

[hatrack]

3. Damn!

That was really satisfying - heavily, HEAVILY documented and zingy, with a generous cupful or so of vitriol making for a snappy sauce!! :hi:

[Roland99]

5. I can't throw pie through email so I thought facts would suffice

:evilgrin:

[LostinVA]

8. Facts? We don't listen to no %@*& facts in W's America, son!

[BOSSHOG]

4. Attaboy Roland 99

Just let em try to fuck with the constitution, they'll find out how docile liberals are.

[Initech]

6. Nice - the FRC deserves all the crap that we can throw at them

And I'm not kidding, either! Organizations like that disgust me to no end.

[manly]

7. filibuster

We all ought to do what that moronic FRC says, fire off an e-mail to our senators. Except, of course, demanding that they fight to protect the filibuster.

[bvar22]

9. BRAVO!!

The video is especially damning:

http://reid.senate.gov/video/isakson.mov

It should be blasted to ALL Media outlets.

[Hosnon]

10. Done...eom

[mcscajun]

11. Wow! Outstanding Response!

I'm keeping this one bookmarked -- it's great ammunition.

:applause:

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

12. I referred your thread to this, er, man:

[Roland99]

13. heh...good graphic

;)

[gratuitous]

14. Let us know if you get a response

I'm guessing beyond some computer-generated "Thank you for contacting us about this important issue. Send us money." you'll not see anything.

Which is, of course, the spirit of antichrist, as it seeks to sever the ties of the community and set one group above another.

[Roland99]

15. Will do.

Nothing as of yet and I'm not going to hold my breath.

[XemaSab]

16. The Dems in congress

couldn't sanitize a hanky in a hospital laundry.

[Roland99]

17. Kick for the night crew

:)

[sendero]

18. Isn't it amazing..

.... these folks, and countless others of their ilk claim to want a Christian nation. But rather than lead by the example that Christ outlined for them, an example of humility, forgiveness, repentance and integrity, they resort to lies and hypocrisy on a regular basis.

And then they lament that the nation is not following them. News flash - most Americans are moral, most Americans have integrity, and they want no part of your personal dysfunction and blatant hypocrisy.

They will ultimately fail for several reasons, but the biggest will be that they themselves cannot point to their own lives and actions as examples worthy of admiration and respect.

[CAG]

19. I just sent them an email myself, here 'tis...

RE: General Inquiry
Subject: Any official statement
Inquiry: Does the Family Research Council have any official statement regarding its President, Tony Perkins, and his association with the Council of Conservative Citizens (COCC), a group he has spoken for in the recent past? How do the Core principles of the FRC "match up" with the Principles of the COCC (some of which are seen below found on their website), which seem to be pretty racist?
"A Statement of the Principles of the Council of Conservative Citizens ... (2) We believe the United States is a European country and that Americans are part of the European people. ... We believe that the United States derives from and is an integral part of European civilization and the European people and that the American people and government should remain European in their composition and character. ... We therefore oppose the massive immigration of non-European and non-Western peoples into the United States that threatens to transform our nation into a non-European majority in our lifetime. ... We also oppose all efforts to mix the races of mankind, to promote non-white races over the European-American people through so-called "affirmative action" and similar measures, to destroy or denigrate the European-American heritage, including the heritage of the Southern people, and to force the integration of the races. ... We believe in the traditional family as the basic unit of human society and morality, and we oppose all efforts by the state and other powers to weaken the structure of the American family through toleration of ... mixture of the races... ... ...We oppose all welfare for immigrants, whether legal or illegal. ..."

Would it be appropriate for the FRC to clarify to their members, particularly members who are minorities, what Mr. Perkins associations with the COCC have been, or for that matter, his connection to the purchase of a mailing list of David Duke, a former head of the KKK, for political fundraising purposes in the late 1990's?

[Roland99]

20. Youch....wasn't aware of that of the CoCC

Hmmm...


Religious Right Leader Tony Perkins, Head of Family Research Council, Has Ties To White Supremacists and Former KKK David Duke. How's Them for Family Values?
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20050509&s=blumenthal



And more ammo if anyone wants to add to their letters:

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2005/04/republicans-are-some-filibusterin.html

In 2000, Rick Santorum threatened to filibuster against a transplant organ allocation bill.

In 1998, the Republicans filibustered to death a bill to allow the FDA to regulate tobacco.

In 1994 and 1998, Republicans filibustered to death the McCain/Feingold campaign finance legislation.

For a week in 1998, Republicans filibustered Surgeon General nominee David Satcher over his views on late-term abortion. (He was later confirmed.)

In 1995, Republicans filibustered to death the nomination of Henry Foster to Surgeon General because he had performed abortions. (Frist actually supported Foster - after he was approved by a Republican-led committee. This was the crazy, lunatic filibuster of Clinton's term.)

In 1994, Republicans filibustered to death a bill that would have required placed stricter requirements on lobbyists.

In 1993, Republicans filibustered the Brady Bill and Clinton's economic stimulus package

In 1992, Republicans filibustered an education spending bill.

[Daphne08]

23. Yep, there was some controversy...

http://www.louisianaweekly.com/cgi-bin/weekly/news/articlegate.pl?20020805f

[Skittles]

21. Roland, you ROCK

DAMN IMPRESSIVE; yes INDEED!

[roguevalley]

22. One of their head honchos has a link to the KKK. You can read

about it at www.americablog.com.

[BR_Parkway]

24. Outstanding reply! It's a shame that we can't send to everyone on the

mailing list, some sort of Reply to All function. THIS would be awesome to see get into everyone's hands.

[Roland99]

25. I did send it to everyone on *this* list, though

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=106&topic_id=8816&mesg_id=12365&page=

[rocktivity]

26. My letter

Your "Justice Sunday" should have been called "Why We Hate America." All you accomplished was making it painfully clear that America's founders came up with a BRILLIANT idea when they called for the separation of church and state. You are TRAITORS and TERRORISTS in my book because you want to overthrow a branch of the U.S. government and turn your brand of Christianity (or should I call it FRIST-ianity?) into the law of the land.

Well, you're NOT taking over MY country. And how do you explain the fact the Frist has REFUSED the Democratic compromise that you've been bragging about? Get thee behind me, you lunatics--you don't speak for me or anyone that I worship!

:headbang:
rocknation

[spooky3]

28. Rock on! Great letter.

[spooky3]

27. These twits have left me two voice mails.

I hope they have wasted a lot of their resources trying to reach people who find their activities morally offensive and objectionable.

PS--Fantastic letter you wrote!

[Roland99]

29. Thanks...did you get their # off caller ID?

:evilgrin:

[spooky3]

31. I do have the number--why do you ask?

[Roland99]

35. Was curious if it matched their toll-free #

If not, it would be a more direct line in to someone.

[spooky3]

36. I think it was a robo call, but if you want to pm me

I'll send you the # when I get home later tonight, if you want it.

[Roland99]

37. Doubt it would matter

They haven't responded to my email either. Didn't think they would.

Sure would be nice to find one of their email distribution lists and send it to that!


:evilgrin:


But, the backlash in papers around the nation I think are enough. There's practically no paper supporting that stunt.

[splat@14]

30. Please let us know if you get a reply! Great letter. n/t

[pbartch]

32. what a great letter!!!!

you are wonderful at putting words to paper!

[Roland99]

33. Thanks! I sent a much-scaled version to my local paper

hope it gets published.

[Roland99]

38. Scaled-Down version for you to send as a LTTE

This is closer to 250 words which is a better for LTTEs.




To whom it may concern,

In 1998, Steven Schwalm of the Family Research Council, said the following on NPR about James Hormel, a Clinton: “the Senate is not a majoritarian institution like the House of Representatives is… it's got a number of checks and balances…This is one of those checks, in which a majority cannot just sheerly force its will, even if they have a majority of votes in some cases, that's why there are things like filibusters…that give minorities in the Senate some power to slow things up, to hold things up.“

In 1999 and 2000, Sen. Frist was one of the Republicans blocking President Clinton’s nominee to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, Richard Paez.

In 1999, Sen. Frist and 52 other Republicans voted against a motion to proceed to a vote on Paez.

Senator Isakson (R-GA) extolled the virtues of the filibuster to protect the rights of the minority from being overrun by the majority in the new Iraqi government: "Don't you fear that the Shi'ites inevitably being in the majority, that you will be overrun? And he says, 'oh no, we have a secret weapon...filibuster'. It is one of their minority leaders, proudly stating one of the pillars and principles of our government, as the way they would ensure that the majority never overran the minority."

Now, all of a sudden, filibusters are a *bad* thing because they go against the GOP and the radical Christian clerics’ political agenda?

Jesus had no use for hypocrites and the so-called Christ Right (which is neither) is the very definition of a hypocrite.


Sincerely,

[Roland99]

34. BWA HA HA HA HA HA!! FRC is D E S P E R A T E ! ! ! !

I just got this in email from them.

No, it's not a response to my email to them but it shows how desperate they are and they're only clinging on by a thread:

Yesterday the Washington Post and ABC News trumpeted a new poll that "discovered" 75 percent of the people polled opposed a rule change to end Democratic filibusters of judicial nominees. All that the poll showed was which side the two media giants are on. :rofl:  Not once in the poll do the questions explain that what the Democrats are doing is both unprecedented and borderline unconstitutional. The questions dealing with the unprecedented filibuster do not even mention the word "filibuster," leaving uninformed participants at a loss to what exactly the Democrats are doing. The Republican National Committee (RNC) has internal polling numbers with much fairer questions which show the Democrats are on the losing side of the issue. According to the RNC numbers over 81 percent of the people polled believe judges deserve an up or down vote, and 64 percent support a procedural rule clarification. Polling numbers aside what Senator Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-TN) is trying to do is restore order to a judicial nominating process that has lost control. The filibuster is an efficient tool in the legislative process. Senate Democrats, using the filibuster during the judicial process, severely upset the balance of power our Founding Fathers placed in the U.S. Constitution. Additionally the policy clarification Senator Frist is calling for is something a majority of sitting Democrats supported in the past, yet now mysteriously opposes. Perhaps ABC News and the Washington Post could include that in their next "non-partisan" poll. I encourage you to counter these media giants by calling your senators, writing letters to the editor and making calls to radio talk shows.