So, both New York senators just voted to appoint Negroponte....

[quiet.american]

Mrs. Clinton: Aye
Mr. Schumer: Aye

Disappointing, but I'm used to it by now.

[Dave Sund]

1. I heard very few "Nos"

Wyden was one, I wasn't watching long enough to hear the others.

Kerry voted Yes.

[Mass]

2. Two no at this point

Wyden and Harkin.

Byrd, Boxer, Kennedy, Kerry, .. voted yes.

[Dave Sund]

6. 98-2

Wow. I was not expecting that. Like I said, it was impossible to win this one.

[politicasista]

7. Well you can't win them all. Nobody's perfect

[roguevalley]

30. winning isn't the point. Voting no for a bastard is what they should

have done but no. They have something they want to protect more than the USA, their fucking careers.

[Roland99]

18. Wow...this should have at least gone along party lines

Why vote King Death Squad to rule over all of our intelligence agencies?

[ltfranklin]

27. Just a question...

...but is this a post that is responsible to report to the Senate when requested? In other words, unlike Judicial appointments, is there congressional oversight over this department. If so, they may have decided to give Boosh his nominee, with the knowledge that they could keep an eye on him and have some control if he starts going postal.

[Roland99]

31. Not sure. But, he'll have an office outside the West Wing.

[oregonjen]

8. Wyden is my senator. Good for him!

[politicasista]

3. How did the other Dems vote?

[Sick_of_Rethuggery]

4. Dont be disappointed.

The time for that is past. Keep tabs -- when the Dems exceed your threshold (cut them some slack for maneuvering and dont set it too low) then work to get better people in; better yet, run for office yourself or get a close confidant to do it. We have to take action, some Dems in Congress just do not get the seriousness of the situation...

[quiet.american]

9. Yep. :) n/t

[Mass]

5. Final results

98 YES
2 NO (Wyden and Harkin).

[quiet.american]

11. Harkin rocks. n/t

[Mass]

14. Wyden is the one who surprised me

Harkin had said he would not vote for Negroponte, but I had heard nothing concerning Wyden.

[quiet.american]

20. Don't know much about Wyden, but this will get me Googling. n/t

[sandnsea]

23. I know

He's made a few courageous stands this year. I've been pleasantly surprised.

[joanski01]

34. Wyden is on the Intelligence Committee, and

during the hearings he told Negroponte that he could not vote for him because he didn't think Negroponte could be independent enough. So I expected Wyden to vote against him, the surprise for me was Harkin, because it didn't look like any other Dem was going to vote against him.

[ewagner]

10. Dems can point

to this vote to disprove Repub talking point You Dems are against anything the President does!

No we're not....see, we supported Negroponte's nomination didn't we?

[quiet.american]

12. Excellent point/observation. n/t

[sandnsea]

21. That's exactly it

They have to vote yes once in a while.

[hecate77]

13. We can't afford to oppose every single nomination.

They are doing right in focusing on one major one at a time. If we oppose every single one, it will hurt us more than it can possibly help. Bolton is the prime target, then the bad judges Bushco is trying to force through, then the Energy bill and so many other necessary fights. Letting Bushco get away with appointing this or that thug is not a failure. Eventually, we have to let him have his appointees, all of whom are thugs. We can only hope to stop the most egregious of his uniformly disgusting choices.

Remember, even if we could stop Negroponte, he would put up someone just as bad or worse.

[quiet.american]

17. So, why couldn't one senator vote "no," one senator vote "yes" :)

Okay, I'm being facetious.

Schumer I'm not really surprised with, as he's been a (sometimes scary) war hawk from the start; it would be nice to see "Mrs. Clinton" cast one vote, though, that could be even remotely taken as controversial....

[In Truth We Trust]

22. Oh no, of course not, you're right -fuck principle and integrity

[blm]

15. Maybe they think he is the best that Bush will do and any other prospects

would be even worse.

I don't know, but, there has to be some reason why Negroponte doesn't get as hard a time as others, and I suspect it may have to do with some of his disagreements with BushInc on Iraq that became known last year.

He gives me the creeps, personally.

[EFerrari]

16. We can't get used to it. There are people in Central America

who STILL do not know where the body of their family member was dumped.

This guy is a criminal and every Senator who voted for him now bears responsibility for his actions.

This Adelita is never going to get use to it.

[quiet.american]

19. I take your point. n/t

[EFerrari]

33. Sorry to be strident & thank you for this thread. n/t

[quiet.american]

35. No prob! If Negroponte isn't cause for outrage, what is? n/t

[NYCGirl]

24. Although I would have liked to see the nomination thwarted,

the word is that the job is basically a figurehead with little real power. Lots of responsibility, lots of blame, no power. I hope this is really the case. Negroponte was the fourth choice, the first three turned it down.

[cestpaspossible]

25. anger or respect?

I could be angry at my heros in the Senate - Boxer, Feingold and Kerry, or I could remind myself that they are on my side and respect their decision even though I vehemently disagree with it. I choose the latter.

[Frances]

26. I agree

I think they voted yes on Negropointe so that they could say they do not vote against everything Bush wants. I would prefer they stand firm on judicial nominees myself.

[roguevalley]

28. And people wonder why some people on this list are very

much against Hillary becoming president. For this alone, for allowing a torturer and incompetent to run the intelligence apparatus and the security of the entire country, I will NEVER, EVER vote for her. For dog catcher even. She can go to hell. IMO.

[Dr Fate]

29. Bush supporters make sorry Democrats. n/t

n/t

[flpoljunkie]

32. He's already been confirmed as Dubya's ambassador to Iraq, has he not?

John Bolton Bully Boy Dubya's bully, is the one who must be stopped. He would be a disaster for us in the United Nations.

But, of course, we do not have the power to stop him in commitee. Let's hope there are some Republicans with enough guts and integrity to vote against him--perhaps Voinovich is our best hope. Chaffee and even Hagel could also vote against him.

If not, Bully boy Bush may rue the day he sent Bully boy Bolton to the United Nations.